Absolutely shocking facts about the GOP

a reply to: poet1b

Laissez faire people are communists? That is a shocker. I thought communism was defined as big government owning everything and punishing commerce. Laissez faire seems to be just the opposite.

Yet I have recently come across the work of Dr John Coleman who exposes Friedrich Hayek as a communist. How is it that the guy who warned us about the road to serfdom is paving it?

A curious case study in classic liberalism vs capitalism comes from Africa. The communist CIA assassinates classic liberals and accuses them of communism. Meanwhile, the Congo has come to reject Nkrumah and his One Unified Socialist Africa. They have declared Indépendance immediate to the other 53 states, and Kenya may as well be Belgium. Rwanda is communist and is killing. The marxist-globalists demonize the DRC's conservative President.

They been blaming Russia since before I was born.

originally posted by: mastahunta

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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I have always backed up my positions with materials even from the horse's mouth, from Marx and Lenin. Perhaps you could try that. I use the writings of Antony Sutton a lot. SInce you seem to read my posts, surely you know that.

I want to hear it from your brain, not some other persons brain.

The US political system is directly funded by the most capitalist companies in the world.
So explain why these companies would continue to invest into a "communist" political
system that is trying to impoverish the companies making the donations/investments?
That would be funding their own demise if we are to believe your narrative.

You have a huge hole in your logic that you have never reconciled, do so now, please.

Thanks

Revisiting this years later, some very big “capitalist” donors give generously to the Democrat Party. It has been shown in recent months that a number of large corporate entities are big donors to the democrats and even are willing to manipulate public opinion on their behalf. Just a few…. Google, Facebook and Amazon. This brings home the point that Sutton revealed in his books that big capitalist industries financed both the Nazis and the Bolshevik Revolution.
It was the Democrat President Wilson who facilitated a passport for Leon Trotsky. Wilson and FDR were both progressive and facilitated the ushering in of progressive totalitarian ideals into America. It’s much more complicated than you imagine. Again, free enterprise is not socialism.
The deep state operates through both the main political parties using Hegelian dialectic. The corruption is so massive as to be almost unimaginable. There is too much to be said about developments of the last few years, it cannot be done in a few paragraphs.

a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

I hate to see that marx is proven right. The state apparatus is big government.

A right wing interpretation of marx could run as follows. Capitalism is not the market. Capitalism is the state, and the state is capitalism. Exploitation has coercive origins.

Capitalism is not freedom. Capitalism is bourgeois rule. The bourgeoisie misrules the proletariat. The enclosure movement that originally triggered marx was coercive.

We the Populist People of the United States experience the bourgeois misrule on Facebook. We are told that Facebook is a private company and can do whatever they want. We are denied moderate land reform in cyberspace. Facebook might be private but they are also privileged. Like Biff says, "I own the police".

We do not hate millionaires, yet at the same time, we cannot believe that billionaire philanthropists accumulated their wealth by honest gain when they clearly paid the lobbyists to rig the system in their favor.

It gets worse. When the Bourgeoisie owns the CIA and uses it to assassinate third world Republicans that oppose their globalist agendas, they prove Lenin right. Capitalism is the highest stage of imperialism. The Russia hoax is overthrow come home to roost. We can finally understand the Congo thanks to Russia, Russia.

The real Workers' Revolution is now being led by truckers.

I know, marx was a scumbag, and Lenin was a mass murderer. Central planning is failed policy. But put crony in front of capitalism and the above makes sense. The Radical Republicans freed the slaves and exactly one hundred years later, they literally committed the biggest lynching in black history. The victim: an African Prime Minister who vastly resembles Lincoln. I hate to see that the GOP neocons were historically the first demorats.

The market is a traditional institution, and to abolish it is as lame as defunding the police. But some things should be regulated, and one of these things is the ability of robber barons to funnel money into politics. Capitalism can literally prove marx and Lenin right by funding global communism, by war if third world countries resist. So ironic.

originally posted by: jasonc65
a reply to: EyeoftheHurricane

I hate to see that marx is proven right. The state apparatus is big government.

A right wing interpretation of marx could run as follows. Capitalism is not the market. Capitalism is the state, and the state is capitalism. Exploitation has coercive origins.

Capitalism is not freedom. Capitalism is bourgeois rule. The bourgeoisie misrules the proletariat. The enclosure movement that originally triggered marx was coercive.

We the Populist People of the United States experience the bourgeois misrule on Facebook. We are told that Facebook is a private company and can do whatever they want. We are denied moderate land reform in cyberspace. Facebook might be private but they are also privileged. Like Biff says, "I own the police".

We do not hate millionaires, yet at the same time, we cannot believe that billionaire philanthropists accumulated their wealth by honest gain when they clearly paid the lobbyists to rig the system in their favor.

It gets worse. When the Bourgeoisie owns the CIA and uses it to assassinate third world Republicans that oppose their globalist agendas, they prove Lenin right. Capitalism is the highest stage of imperialism. The Russia hoax is overthrow come home to roost. We can finally understand the Congo thanks to Russia, Russia.

The real Workers' Revolution is now being led by truckers.

I know, marx was a scumbag, and Lenin was a mass murderer. Central planning is failed policy. But put crony in front of capitalism and the above makes sense. The Radical Republicans freed the slaves and exactly one hundred years later, they literally committed the biggest lynching in black history. The victim: an African Prime Minister who vastly resembles Lincoln. I hate to see that the GOP neocons were historically the first demorats.

The market is a traditional institution, and to abolish it is as lame as defunding the police. But some things should be regulated, and one of these things is the ability of robber barons to funnel money into politics. Capitalism can literally prove marx and Lenin right by funding global communism, by war if third world countries resist. So ironic.

I’m sorry but any time someone starts going on about “bourgeois capitalism”, I know they are steeped in socialist ideology.
I get it about robber barons, they have been robbing the public for a long time. I’m familiar with the work of G Edward Griffin, let’s put it that way, but if you are trying to replace capitalism with socialism or Marxism of any kind, I’m not on board. The Truckers are one thing. But please don’t try and sell me on a people’s revolution to abolish capitalism. It’s an about true free enterprise, which practically does not exist anymore. So I get what you are saying, I just think it’s misguided. Socialism will never be there solution to worldwide economic woes. Socialism does depend on redistribution of wealth, and I’m sorry I’m just not fiscally or morally responsible for the souls pouring over the border to get free stuff. Why do they think they are entitled to break into homes and steal once they get here? What happened to “we just want to work?” I guess it’s all about free stuff now. That is just ridiculous and a moral outrage.
No thanks no Marxism

I am by no means promoting a communist revolution. I am only going on about marxian irony. Communist accelerationism is real. Stealth communists seem to literally go about proving marx right by being evil capitalists. The very word "capitalist" was coined by marx.

Mass accumulation of wealth is a real evil, and it has coercive origins. I am only calling for derigging the system.

Why do you think third world countries get leaders that range from slightly socialist classic liberals to full on communists? Because the CIA does evil to them and proves marx right right in their face. They end up throwing in with communists to defeat the neocon radical Wide Awake CIA, and they sometimes get betrayed by the communists if the CIA doesn't dissolve them. It so happens that Obama is connected to Suharto, the CIA puppet that overthrew Sukarno. Dave Chappelle is connected to another guy they overthrew. Cancel culture is assassination, and we don't recognize it, because the history was dissolved and hidden from us.

The demorats call Trump a communist, and that is not the case. They been blaming Russia since before I was born.

They create communism, they accelerate communism, and accuse us communism, and in the end, communism means nothing, and capitalism means dem. It's all semantics and words. People can have all the conservative rhetoric and talk capitalism like Hayek and yet be working for the Club of Rome. Good governance is not free stuff, and I definitely want it. I am tired of the crony-funded conflict.

It is no wonder that Booker T Washington could refer to race hustler back when racism was an actual thing. The race hustlers were the Wide Awakes.

The Bovay story pokes a huge hole in the D'Souza narrative (dems are the actual racists). A Great Switch actually happened, and it is the reverse of what you think. Republicans used to be the race hustlers. They cared so much about race that they were segregationists in the North. It is literally another country that they treated like a colony that they trashed by forced integration. But back home, they be like "we don't want them 'n-word's".

And it was the North that created human zoos and exhibited Pygmies, while the South treated Ota Benga with dignity. Atheists and evolutionists were radical Republicans. How did so godly America produce forced sterilization that they got rid of long before they took prayer out of school? How is it that a praying nation had eugenics? These things mystify me. But understand that the GOP is communist, and the mystery clears up.

Why was it that the last human zoo closed. In Belgium. In 1958? Hitler was not enough to embarrass Belgium. Today, Belgium's neocons are the Open Flemish Liberals and Democrats, which hype Hayek while they stand for (gasp) euthanasia. They are just like our demorats. Nothing conservative about them at all. Yet they are capitalists.

The GOP literally rolled back Disestablishment. They literally tried to define America as a Christian nation. They were always moralists. They were the party of the Moral Majority. They started cancel culture. They canceled rock and roll, Dungeons and Dragons, and Harry Potter. They were the party of legalism and YHWH. They are Satanists. YHWH is Satan. Also Saturn. The Greeks dedicated Saturday to the same god. So both Sun Day and Saturn Day are pagan. So Paul is right, and all days are alike. The Prohibition is alive and well in the person of Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

The Battle Hymn of the Republic is Zionist, invented by Dispensationalists. It celebrates the wrath of YHWH, and there is absolutely no grace in that song. Republicans are the party of salvation by works, Holy #ing Ghost, and Pray Without Ceasing, which is Christian neoslavery. The Moral Majority says you are not truly saved. And Tipper Gore was part of it, along with her green hubby. Away, Dixieland is libertarian, and Battle Hymn is Lordship Damnation and Liberation Theology. The Holy Ghost inspired it. Peter is the thorn in Paul's flesh. So # the Holy Ghost, goddamnit!

Black conservatism today is a reaction to the Wide Awakes. Only a black conservative gets spat on and called ape. It all started with human zoos. Leopold literally helped Verner capture Ota Benga, who allegedly killed himself. It was probably assassination. A precursor of 1960. The Belgians literally invented the evolué caste system as an evolutionist insult. The left today treats Clarence Thomas like an evolué. It must have been a black conservative that ended human zoos.

Republicans are the party of racist missionaries that went forth to convert Africa to false systems of works. They succeeded in making Zambia a Christian nation. And it was literally a Christian communist country under Kaunda. The missionaries literally created a trained marxist. But they preach capitalism and the GOP here. WTF. Good old dialectic. It all began with False Apostle Peter and his unforgiving spirit. Our lot was worse than death itself. Hichilema is a conservative, and we never hear about him. Tshisekedi is a conservative with Christian values, and Heritage Foundation supports his tribalistic opponent Fayulu. Heritage Foundation is garbage. Wikipedia is inaccurate, and UDPS is center-right.

New Covenant is New World Order. Indwelling is Pedophilia. Ask jesus into your heart is a false gospel. Nigeria prays and yet they are a #hole country. Sowore supports freedom of religion and gets zero support from Voice of the Martyrs, which are rapists. Trunanashabadepressure is Tongues. The Wide Awakes switched parties and became the Wokes. # Joe Biden and # the Holy Ghost.

originally posted by: Misoir
My fellow Americans, what you are about to read is not taught in your history books, said on television, or even known by virtually any American. Until today it was not even known by me but after extensive research the facts are, to say the least; shocking. If you know me, as most on ATS do, I do try not to ‘pump things up’ beyond where they belong. So when I declare something to be shocking, unless you are a devout cynic or skeptic, this will shock you too.

I want to take you back to the 1850s, a time of tension just before the American Civil War. A new politics was spreading across the lands the likes of which few could comprehend. The result was the creation of a new political party in a small schoolhouse within a small Wisconsin town. This party was to be called the ‘Republican Party’. Assuming you already know all that perhaps it is best I just dive right into the subject at hand.

A man named Alvin Earl Bovay was in rural New York State, who went to Norwich University and admitted to the bar at Utica in July, 1846. A man dedicated to politics he became heavily involved in abolitionism and free soil, two popular movements at the time. He became the secretary of the National Reform Association which was a group dedicated to advancing the Homestead Act, free soil, abolitionism, and adding reverence to God into the US Constitution.

The NRA was chiefly concerned with the concentration of wealth, something they tied to the horrors of the old world. They felt there should not be a right to the unlimited accumulation of wealth in this country. The association soon turned towards what is described as “a spectrum the most revolutionary anarchist and socialist currents in American life”. This hostility towards concentrated wealth made them hostile to the South especially seeing as how it was governed largely by wealthy gentry using slavery in replace of paid labor, further amassing their wealth concentration and depriving laborers of good wages.

Some historians have tied the NRA’s most important members to being under the influence of Socialism, Trade Unionism, and of course Abolitionism. By the late 1840s they had taken up the issue of a new Homestead Act whereby land west of the Mississippi accounting for 160 or more undeveloped acres would be given to any occupant 21 years or older who lived there for five years and maintained the land. This was perhaps their most important cause which was the land – reform movement, which was tied into abolitionism.

In the late 1840s Bovay relocated his family from New York to the newly formed town of Ripon, Wisconsin. Just prior to its formation the area had been used by utopian socialists as a commune known as Ceresco after the Roman Goddess of agriculture. It was still a hotbed for political activity, of which I believe it is safe to assume Socialism was a major driving force.

Around 1852 Bovay had contacted newspaper editor Horace Greeley, a man who had been an adherent of the newly developing ideology of Socialism. His newspaper, the New York Tribune, was the most widely circulated paper in America and featured such contributors as Margaret Fuller (the first major Feminist), Henry James Sr. (utopian Socialist), Charles Dana (Abolitionist), and Karl Marx (founder of Communism). Marx was one of the main contributors to the Tribune and his work is available online. Another contributor to the paper Henry Jarvis Raymond went on to found the New York Times.

Bovay had contacted Greeley because he wanted to create a new political party based around an abolitionist platform. The name of this new political party he proposed would be the ‘Republican Party’, Greeley was excited about the name as he had already thought of it himself. Some 2 years later the Kansas – Nebraska Act was being considered in Congress, angry that it may pass Bovay organized a meeting at the local church declaring that should the Nebraska bill pass they would “throw old party organizations to the winds and organize a new party on the sole issue of slavery."

On March 20, just under a month after the meeting, Congress passed the bill and Bovay called another meeting this time at a small schoolhouse in Ripon. A new political party was officially formed by Bovay and 16 other attendees to fight against the expansion of slavery known as the ‘Republican Party’. The media arm of the party would be headed by Horace Greeley’s New York Tribune as they launched their first campaign for the Presidency in 1856 nominating John C. Fremont and rallying around the slogan ‘Free soil, free silver, free men, Fremont”.

Another important man was Warren Chase who became a Wisconsin Legislator and was one of the members at the Wisconsin Constitutional Convention. He was also the founder of the Wisconsin Phalanx which was a spiritualist community based on the doctrines of Francios Fourier in 1844. Later he went on to found another utopian socialist community, one built around his specific ideals, called Ceresco, where Ripon would later be established. He was also an attendant at the founding of the Republican Party.

In 1860 a paramilitary group of the Republican Party was formed called the Wide Awake Republicans, identifying themselves as ‘Wide Awakes’. One reported incident was on October 3, 1860 in Chicago when 10,000 Wide Awakes marched in a three – mile precession. By the end of 1860 the New York Tribune had estimated there to be over 400,000 drilled and uniformed Wide Awakes nationwide. [The New York Herald (Sept. 19, 1860)] The adopted unofficial mission statement of Wide Awake chapters was:

1st. To act as a political police.
2nd. To do escort duty to all prominent Republican speakers who visit our place to address our citizens.
3rd. To attend all public meetings in a body and see that order is kept and that the speaker and meeting is not disturbed.
4th. To attend the polls and see that justice is done to every legal voter.
5th. To conduct themselves in such a manner as to induce all Republicans to join them.
6th. To be a body joined together in large numbers to work for the good of the Republican Ticket.

We need the Republicans & Democrats to abandon their 100% capitalist agenda . Be nice if the Republicans would slide more into a few socialist ideals . Nice thread 👌

We need the Republicans & Democrats to abandon their 100% capitalist agenda . Be nice if the Republicans would slide more into a few socialist ideals

Democrats have a pure capitalist agenda? That is an obvious lie. Democrats can certainly be capitalists when convenient like with Facebook. And their crony capitalism disgusts even Lars Mapstead. But they will never be Ayn Rand purists. "Liberals" are always known for raising taxes, spending like there is no tomorrow, and soaking the rich, not to much promoting marxist Critical Race Theory. Anyone who follows Ayn Rand today automatically gets called a white supremacist.

Democrats have a peculiar way of denouncing America to the Republicans and coddling the communist professors who tell us we suck, while they project American exceptionalism abroad. Democrats to Trump: "America sucks". Democrats to Putin: "America is exceptional". The result: what Africa calls the west is what we call the left. I have literally caught Kamala wiping her mouth with the American flag and using the jingoism. We are misrepresented. I have literally lost my belief in American exceptionalism because of the left wing projection of power.

RINOs also are not purists. If any Republicans have a pure capitalist agenda, it wouldn't be the RINOs. Trump cannot be a purist, because tariffs are anathema to Randism. Sorry, the only party with the purist agenda is the Libertarian Party. And purists think that crony capitalism does not exist, so Lars is not a purist. The GOP makes Patrice Lumumba look like a purist, they are so pathetic. And yet they worried about who is Castro or Worse. If a third world leader wants a tariff, "hey, he's a communist, and we must kill him". The party of welfare, compulsory education (babysitting), and Medicare for all is not 100% capitalist.