Again a very intersting insight on how ETs interact (Bashar Channeling)

Bashar is one of the few air tight sources of information I've come across. Over time and practice Darryl has brought plethora's of information that has turned out to be true and provable.

Anyone nay saying will have decades of material to rebut before ill take them seriously.

Originally posted by sirric

Originally posted by dawnprince

I'm sorry , but I'm really not buying all this new age bull .

I wager I can stand on a stage and channel Elvis Presley and it would be no more believible than what I have witnessed so far .
Faith is not scientific proof . You have faith becuase you have been duped .

Duped by WHAT?

He's been channeling for over 20 years and many thing he had spoken about in the past have now been proven possible through Quantum Physics.

So an actor is able to come up with Quantum theorems before actual physicist can? Get real and quite being such a pessimistic person.

And no I will not do your homework for you if you don't believe me, you will have to find out on your own.

Sirric

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Can you provide a link where I can read this charlatan's documented and peer approved quantum theorems ?

You can't , because no such documentation exists . Hoax's are perpetuated by the gullible !!!

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good point. I wished i could really discuss it here in the way i am used to but my english is not good enough to discuss in a complex way..but good post!

He does that over 30 years btw and now i listened to over 30 hours of material and my life view has totally changed in a positive way. Bashar is just great.

What a synchronicité. I'm listening to him now...

I think it is real and there are indeed many ways to channel.


All spirits/souls are connected into one huge thing called God and ALL things have spirit even the rock, water, and the Earth... All of it. All of it is unconditional love.

Whenever you set yourself to love, and think of a subject, you think of thoughts and even help the expansion of thoughts that other beings have though on that subject.

Love is the connective force connecting all things. It is abstract. It is manifested in what we call the "Quantum Entanglement".

It is true, I know it, but other can choose to say it is false. The ultimate reality is the love (Quantum Entanglement).

Originally posted by Huggiesunrise
Bashar is one of the few air tight sources of information I've come across. Over time and practice Darryl has brought plethora's of information that has turned out to be true and provable.

Anyone nay saying will have decades of material to rebut before ill take them seriously.

I'll bite. What info has Bashar/Anka provided--one or two samples will do for now--that you consider new and "air tight"?

Originally posted by The GUT

Originally posted by Huggiesunrise
Bashar is one of the few air tight sources of information I've come across. Over time and practice Darryl has brought plethora's of information that has turned out to be true and provable.

Anyone nay saying will have decades of material to rebut before ill take them seriously.

I'll bite. What info has Bashar/Anka provided--one or two samples will do for now--that you consider new and "air tight"?

this is one of the best sessions i found so far for people who dont know him. He combines many concepts here to explain his view. But please listen to it from the beginning to the end.

Originally posted by Huggiesunrise
Anyone nay saying will have decades of material to rebut before ill take them seriously.

Hmmmm... would 4 decades of experience with non-corporeal intelligences qualify One to speak? It should, it covers the entire spectrum of communication.

Or, how about a lifetime (65 years) as a telepath? And, on that, I can tell you it takes decades of practice to get it right.

Bashar, and ALL the others are frauds! All they give you is their own thinking, their own thoughts, which may, or may not have anything to do with reality.

The reality is; you know nothing about ET, and all that has been told to you is false.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by Huggiesunrise
Anyone nay saying will have decades of material to rebut before ill take them seriously.

Hmmmm... would 4 decades of experience with non-corporeal intelligences qualify One to speak? It should, it covers the entire spectrum of communication.

Or, how about a lifetime (65 years) as a telepath? And, on that, I can tell you it takes decades of practice to get it right.

Bashar, and ALL the others are frauds! All they give you is their own thinking, their own thoughts, which may, or may not have anything to do with reality.

The reality is; you know nothing about ET, and all that has been told to you is false.

Etharzi od Oma

lol that is what u learned after all that time? So you dont trust yourself ? Sad

Originally posted by kauskau
lol that is what u learned after all that time? So you dont trust yourself ? Sad

Typical of a T. Human's unwillingness to understand. Perhaps you should read the words I used, as oppsed to the ones you want.

Did I say anywhere that I didn't trust myself? No! I did not. The truth is that I can enjoy telepathic comunication with nearly any living things. Although, I do have to say; that my Wolves have rather strange thought processes. Animals of "lesser" status, are stranger still, but not impossible. T. Humans are rather easy, though you have supressed telepathic abilities which does make the connection more difficult. That imposses some limitations; I tyically have to be in the presense of a T. Human for it to work well...this is a temporary limitation, and seems to be rapidly disappearing.

Many Extraterrestrials have a rather developed telepathic capability. Telepathy is frequently more reliable for interstellar communication than any technolgy.

Channeling on the other hand is at its very best "hit and miss". Frequently miss. Channelers NEVER spend the time required to learn to separate their own thoughts from the communication, Most don't spend the time expanding their consciousness and base line knowledge to even begin to understand the concepts used in true telepathy

Then there is some 40+ years of Occult study, which, strangely enough actualy includes teaching on "channeling". Course you need to understand that 100 years ago, your channeler would be called a "medium". And all of that was "debunked" rather well almost 100 years ago.

And that dear T. Human; leaves your channelers out in the cold without a pot to piss in, nor a leg to stand on!

They are trying to feed you their own thoughts, and, imiginings as something that is of "other-world" origin when in fact it is no more distant than their own mind. In short; they are frauds.

do me a favour: tell me-> what is the exact difference between telepathy and channeling ..and try to differentiate it in a non judgmental way

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My interactions or experiences have been abductions and contact, physical and being pulled/astral, including being communicated with telepathic. From several different species and people. (note I'm striking out they don't act weird though it is funny, that I wrote that, because the channeling distorts the person, and uses their voice in disturbing ways.)

They are extremely competent, intelligent people without any of these mannerisms that overtake people being channeled. They communicate more like us, they're people like us, only mind to mind, and from a different frequency and sometimes it can best be described, more of themselves, to our projection or fraction of self, though not sure if thats the right way. Channeling is something else.

Originally posted by kauskau
do me a favour: tell me-> what is the exact difference between telepathy and channeling ..and try to differentiate it in a non judgmental way

The differences can be difficult to quantify, and many of them must be experienced.

However, there are some differences I can give you.

*Chaneling is the opening up of the mind to any and all influences.
*Channeling employed NO FILTERS.
*Any thought may manifest in the channeler, usually his own, but, sometime thughts from another. The source of these "other" thoughts is frequently unknown, and any identification given by the channeled is frequently a lie.

Contrast to telepathy
*Telepathy is the openig of the mind to a specific "other"
*All other influences are filtered.
*Any thoughts by either particiant is known to the other. This actually extends to emotional states, and feelings. Very advanced telepaths can even access the senses of the other (touch, sight, hearing, etc.)

Channelers tend to say what they "think" they heard, but, make no attempt at verifying the thought, or the sender.
In telepathy, One has a very intimate connection with the sender.

Etharzi od Oma

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by kauskau
do me a favour: tell me-> what is the exact difference between telepathy and channeling ..and try to differentiate it in a non judgmental way

The differences can be difficult to quantify, and many of them must be experienced.

However, there are some differences I can give you.

*Chaneling is the opening up of the mind to any and all influences.
*Channeling employed NO FILTERS.
*Any thought may manifest in the channeler, usually his own, but, sometime thughts from another. The source of these "other" thoughts is frequently unknown, and any identification given by the channeled is frequently a lie.

Contrast to telepathy
*Telepathy is the openig of the mind to a specific "other"
*All other influences are filtered.
*Any thoughts by either particiant is known to the other. This actually extends to emotional states, and feelings. Very advanced telepaths can even access the senses of the other (touch, sight, hearing, etc.)

Channelers tend to say what they "think" they heard, but, make no attempt at verifying the thought, or the sender.
In telepathy, One has a very intimate connection with the sender.

Etharzi od Oma

how can you state in that arrogance that channeling is not also a valid form of communicating the thoughts of another being. There is no real difference between channeling and telepathy in a physical way. Both is tuning in "other" frequencies. Telepathy involves the ego of the "reader"" and channeling is more like making space for another energy.

Originally posted by kauskau

how can you state in that arrogance that channeling is not also a valid form of communicating the thoughts of another being. There is no real difference between channeling and telepathy in a physical way. Both is tuning in "other" frequencies. Telepathy involves the ego of the "reader"" and channeling is more like making space for another energy.

Well how about: Channeling is unsecured thought reception. Telepathy is secure.

Would you allow your computer to connect to random address?
Would you allow some random address to connect to your computer?

That is what channeling is. It is the disabling of most communication, and all security protocols.
Telepathy is the use of all comunication and security protocols.

If this happened to you, it is very likely that your machine would be compromised by malware. You would become royally pissed when your machine stopped working, and the only solution was a complete rebuild.

How is it different when a biolgical being is involved?

See, the problem is that when channeling you do not, and can not know who you are talking with. That issue does not exist in telepathy.

Etharzi od Oma

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Thats true. Thats why you need to trust in yourself and learn how to meditate because in certain moods you can not attract lower beings.
So now you seem to understand that a good channeler is not communicating his own thoughts but his own language and concepts to translate other thoughts.

Originally posted by kauskau
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Thats true. Thats why you need to trust in yourself and learn how to meditate because in certain moods you can not attract lower beings.
So now you seem to understand that a good channeler is not communicating his own thoughts but his own language and concepts to translate other thoughts.

You have wholly misunderstood everything I said.

Why would One want to attract lesser beings? Demns, elementals, etc. can be useful tools once One learn t use them, but they are never to be trusted with critical communication. In my studies of Western Ceremonial Magick (Glden Dawn foundation) I learn to never, NEVER, open myself to a lesser creature. To do so is to invide possession.

ALL channelers have no control over what/who they speak to. They lack the proper protocols for verification of the "other party", or the message being communicated.

Etharzi od Oma.

Channeling is wide open like a ouji board. For example. Some of my contact was from Telos. And there is quite the mystery on Lemuria, Ets, and humans from past cycles, current ET bases, on earth, and in the solar system ie, asteroids and various stations, worlds really. And yet, there is some very negative almost like hellzones/winterlands down below, and there is testimony of dens of reptiles, bascially co-op programs with the miltary, etc etc.

Very difficult to search for truth in the maze of information. Also, Shasta like the Okanagan has the legends connected to it, the dormant volcano, that is some sort of channel area/base area. Now ET in my experiences (I don't call negatives ET's, they serve shadow, though ET can be mixed the way humans are, but not dark souls) operates out of more of this channel, ie subsections, higher levels, and interacts with us. I believe we're literally 4D ourselves here in a kind of matrix that seems 3D. 4d is a duality kind of star wars realm but has many many higher levels, channels and star systems, with big white superstars, stars very in size enormously. Certain levels of 4D is akin to the levels beyond the duality, they are like the higher levels, and are very positive.

We have both sides of the issue here.

So there are higher level interactions and bases, no matter what whistleblower says what in Ufology.

Now, Shasta and Okanagan, have other things in common. Black ops, radio observatories and occult groups, rituals. What I see there is, the radio observatories are probably located where the bases are known to be, where higehr level ETs interact, from the cosmos. Instead of deep space research they are set up to spy on the bases.

The rituals are to lower the frequency of the earth grid in that area and try to down some crafts and capture some technology or have access to them. Thats my opinion.

Because I've experienced contact from, what is at least positive/neutrals, and what I feel positive ETs, and they are related to these bases.

One such contact gained protection for me, from negative Et, more the co-op and harvesting, the wounds and medical stuff, being told humans are like instects, a group I didn't appreciate around. That has some karma, ie the more you have unconditional love the less access they have to you.

The man who I didn't channel, but was guarding the female technician, was 8 foot tall, muscled, strong, in armor, protecting the technician. He showed himself to me and it all changed when I just gave civilized kind response to them, seeing no reason to be angry, but to be the light, and be love. But I was fed up to here, with any form of negative ufology and the group that took what they wanted and left wounds, so I was feeling very upset initially.

He identfied as from the Taurus constellation, 65 light years away, and from Telos. I had already recognized the energy off the red lit crafts, the ones chased by the black choppers as being similar or the same as the orbs at Telos and also Mount Adams, James Gilliland.

The other contact was over. There was a frequecy battle of sorts the next day when the others showed up, and that was happening roughly 3 X a week, and affected the entire family. And it was then over!

So, there are protectors there as well. But, here is an example of Adama, channeling. Its like a preying mantis, or reptile, her hands, her harshness. I mean, what the heck is this?

This is not Adama! There is angel-et realm there that has nothing to do with what she is channeling. They do lure, with some good words, but don't invite this energy into your lives. Do I believe in Adama? Not sure, but due to that contact, checkup and protection, I researched Telos alot. And I was monitored, whoever is there uses crafts and has good energy, protector energy. Good guys. Not what she is doing.

And look at Aurthor's costume. He's a clown!


Adama answers questions on the "Aday in Telos" TV show

This feels so dark to me, and she suddenly become a preying mantis, insectoid or reptile, not sure but something is wrong.

All I know is the moment I relaxed, when I was so upset, due to this ongoing access of my family by something that had no right and should have asked permission, and decided, its just not worth it. I'm the Light, I want to consistently be Love and just be civilized in my responses. When this happened, it all changed. He appeared, and communicated that not all humans were the same. We don't have a great reputation here. They may communicate telepathically but protect themselves from our frequency, so its not fully open. Things became very altered reality, very blurry, almost like missing time a bit after that. But at one point I asked him to identify, and he told me where he was from.

Also, the next day monitored by them, and shown snapshots, Lowki here on ats suggested it was like being downloaded his family portfolio, and it was family, husband/wife/children, and he showed me lodges where they interacted, really enjoying each other, very people oriented, other oriented, gifts to each other. I asked him if we were related, soul level in some way and he said we were like cousins. I knew I had a Lyra, Vega connection I believe from soul memories, walls crumbling. That was a telepathic human race.

When you are choosing to be civilized or Love, not primitive in responses, then traps become less important. Because what does it matter, if the dark strikes down the light, then Obe One is an example of the Light grows and expands, to fuller empowered self. So be Love. If someone takes off a mask and they have horns, then try to nudge that horn mask off because somewhere that person has light. Otherwise, you can try to run, I don't know how far people get from ETs, so keeping clean underwear on, not harming others or lowering your frequency so negatives can gain access is a good idea.

I wouldn't channel.

I have listened to Bashar/Darryl a fair bit and must say that at first I was skeptical and then came around after witnessing the share consistancy of his material and also how quickley he was able to deliver responses.
In my personal opinion though, there is nothing of value in any thing he says, what so ever and I must agree with others that he is a charlatan, I think this for a couple of reasons.

One being that the chanelled sessions are expensive so he is making a profit, thats not very spiritual at all in my book. He could easily work and give readings part time free of charge like a decent person would... Gifts are to be shared not sold for money.

Two, what he says is really a very selfish message, focused on creating your own reality and "following your highest excitment" rather than acceptance and just being a kind person. The things he says are to me, a bit devilish... Take this stuff with a grain of salt is my recomendation!!!

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I watched more Bashar and agree with the cosmic message of peace and all, but the alien posession edge is really transparent. The man should drop the act and spread his message, which is very uplifting and reasonable, through honest means. Playing intergalactic muppet just makes a mockery of it all.