Smashing Protons, Time Cloaking, and the 5th Dimension. Are we there yet?

There are a few threads on ATS about the recent development in time cloaking. Time cloaking involves using light to make a particle not experience an event in time.

It takes four coordinates for matter to exist in our perception of reality. These are (x,y,z,t). If matter is time cloaked, it does not have a time, t, coordinate. Therefore, this cloaked matter does not exist in our perception of reality.

The BIG Question. Where does the matter reside while cloaked if it is not in our reality/universe?

The matter is in superposition.

The 5th dimension.

The second dimension of time.

Prespacetime.

Alpha time.

The spirit world.

All of these are the same place.

A place where time does not exists as we understand it. The place of singularity within all black holes.

The place where the electron goes when it pops in and out of reality as it orbits the nucleus of an atom.

Watch this video to learn more about Alpha time.

www.youtube.com...

This is where the extra energy may be coming from at CERN LHC.

Smashing protons together punches a hole in the fabric of three dimensional space and quickly seals at 3 TeV power only allowing enough energy for humans to be curious about the extra peak on their graphs at CERN. When asked what the peak on the graph represents, the physicists at CERN reply, "we do not know."

What is going to happen when the LHC is cranked up to full power of 7 TeV in December 2012?

What happens when the hole does not seal quickly?

Could this be how the Big Bang starts or will we first see our dead relatives come flying through the hole like the Bible says they will once again walk the earth during the rapture?

We now see more and more evidence that the 5th dimension exists all around us but our five senses cannot pick it up. The dimension is curled up so small that it is only accessible at the quantum level.

We all have been there, in Alpha time. Our consciousness becomes nonlocal when we dream. When nonlocal, our minds experience superposition.

This is why our dreams allow us to travel backward and forward through time and space like an electron wave in superposition. Our consciousness is in alpha time/superposition and behaves as a wave function like in the double slit experiment.

When our body chooses to awaken (to observe our perception of reality as human), the wave function collapses and our consciousness becomes fixed in our perception of reality as we return from a visit to the 5th dimension where all possibilities exist.

This is where our consciousness goes when we are anesthetized, and when we have an out of body experience while on drugs such as '___'. As humans, we do no always remember the experience, but sometimes we do.

See you in the place that time forgot.

Just wait and see.

Comments?

reply to post by consciousgod

thanks for the reminder, are we there yet? no doubt about it. Do we know how to use that power? at times, cause we are still remembering how best to let it flow. Its all about being fixated in the 3d view, the more we get away from that the better it will be.

All I see is a bunch of pseudo-scientific, metaphysical ramblings (complete with contrived buzz words), and absolutely zero mathematical proofs.

Are you able to scientifically prove the existence of these concepts you describe?

reply to post by inivux


I don't have to prove any of it. Others have and are. I'm just the messenger. Don't shoot me.

The laws of conservation of energy tell us that matter cannot be created nor destroyed.

So where is the extra energy at CERN coming from?

Is CERN breaking the most fundamental law of physics or is there something else going on?

Why is it that you say it is pseudo-science?

It is no more pseudo-science than the Big Bang Theory, which clearly violates the law of conservation of energy by creating all the energy and matter in the universe from nothing. Yet this law breaking theory is commonly accepted as correct. Why is that?

All hypothesis and scientific theories have to start somewhere.

Consider this.

Quantum theory tells us that there is more energy (10e120 joules) in one cubic meter of empty vacuum space than exists in all the stars in the universe. As unbelievable as this is to comprehend, this is an accepted scientific theory complete with all your proofs and mathematics. This is another law breaker. Something from nothing. Creating more energy than exist in the universe from empty nothingness.

So where does all that energy come from?

It has to be stored somewhere. You can't see it. Your senses can't pick it up, but the mathematics says it is there. It's not pseudo-science.

I am providing a logical solution to a big problem. My solution does not violate the laws of conservation of energy. The energy comes from particles in the 2nd dimension of time, superposition.

This explains how the single electron (matter) in the double slit experiment produces an interference pattern by interfering with itself. Since the particle is in superposition, time cloaked, it can interfere with itself.

The human race is on the verge of making the greatest discovery of all time.

And it is scheduled to happen at the end of the year right on schedule.

Enjoyed reading this and watching the video. Can you give us some kind of link that can verify CERN cranking up to full power in Dec. 2012? If accurate, that is something I wasn't aware of at all. Also, what are your thoughts on Edgar Cayce and his readings? Thanks

Originally posted by Gumerk
Enjoyed reading this and watching the video. Can you give us some kind of link that can verify CERN cranking up to full power in Dec. 2012? If accurate, that is something I wasn't aware of at all. Also, what are your thoughts on Edgar Cayce and his readings? Thanks

The schedule has changed. Instead of going to full power at the end of 2012/beginning of 2013, CERN says they are shutting down for a year.

From Wiki:

"The LHC will continue to operate at 3.5 TeV per beam, half of its planned capability, until the end of 2012. It will then be shut down for a year for upgrades to allow full energy operation (7 TeV per beam), with reopening planned for 2014."

I think Casey was had a sixth sense that allowed him to perceive the 5th dimension. Some people seem to have the ability to peek at it. Not sure how.

Originally posted by consciousgod
So where is the extra energy at CERN coming from?

Is CERN breaking the most fundamental law of physics or is there something else going on?

Why is it that you say it is pseudo-science?

CERN gets its energy largely from fossil fuels, maybe a little hydroelectric, both of which have as their source matter being converted into energy in the sun during the nuclear fusion process. Some portion comes from nuclear fission. (In both cases mass is converted to energy following the E=mc^2 formula).

You've provided no sources for any of this and I wouldn't even call it pseudoscience, which would be elevating it to a status far higher than what it deserves. I'd say it looks like a bunch of made up mumbo-jumbo which doesn't even try to be scientific. At least pseudoscience tries to appear as though it may be scientific (hence the name) but your post doesn't even seem to make the attempt.

If I'm wrong however, and you do have scientific sources, please post them.

reply to post by consciousgod


You know those figures at particle colliders are very minute, well, subatomic, and last microseconds. Wouldn't feel it on your finger, if the force could be isolated as to hit your finger.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by consciousgod
So where is the extra energy at CERN coming from?

Is CERN breaking the most fundamental law of physics or is there something else going on?

Why is it that you say it is pseudo-science?

CERN gets its energy largely from fossil fuels, maybe a little hydroelectric, both of which have as their source matter being converted into energy in the sun during the nuclear fusion process. Some portion comes from nuclear fission. (In both cases mass is converted to energy following the E=mc^2 formula).

You've provided no sources for any of this and I wouldn't even call it pseudoscience, which would be elevating it to a status far higher than what it deserves. I'd say it looks like a bunch of made up mumbo-jumbo which doesn't even try to be scientific. At least pseudoscience tries to appear as though it may be scientific (hence the name) but your post doesn't even seem to make the attempt.

If I'm wrong however, and you do have scientific sources, please post them.

The energy output from the experiment, not the power to run it.

Sources for which part?

The part that something needs 3 coordinates to define space. That's middle school. The part that we need an additional time coordinate to define matter's existence in reality. That's a simple concept.

Time cloaking a particle like in below link is evidence that the particle is not in our universe.

abcnews.go.com...

A particle must experience time or it doesn't exist in our reality and if it does, it must be hidden in another dimension or universe that we cannot observe. The fact that the particle reappears tells us the particle must have went somewhere where time has no meaning and is not recorded.

The next obvious objection of yours must be my statement about the proton smashing knocking a hole in the fabric of space-time. The results at CERN are evidence that the other dimensions exist. The extra energy spike on CERN instruments is probably energy leaking from the 5th dimension. CERN did the test for me and provided the results. I feel CERN needs a bigger hole and a bigger bang before they will see the light.

Are you saying CERN is not scientific enough for you to consider valid science?

Here is more evidence of leakage from the 5th dimension. On the quantum level, space-time is grainy as evidenced by this article:

www.khouse.org...

The graininess of space-time may be caused by a constant leakage of energy from quantum space between quarks that manifest as expanding space. This may also be the source of what is called the cosmic background radiation.

The cosmic background radiation may not only be residual radiation left over from the big bang; but a by-product of leakage of expanding space from the 5th dimension. Cosmic background strength should diminish over time, but it does not; indicating the source is in real time, not residual left over energy bouncing around for 13.72 billion years. It can't be radiation from the big bang because all light, gamma radiation is light, would suffer the same effect and would have scattered and been reduced to the same background levels and we would not be able to see galaxies that are 10 billion light years away.

Like this next article states, it is well known that quantum particles pop in and out of existence.

www.scientificamerican.com...

It is easy to understand the "in existence" part, but the "out of existence" part should be puzzling to most people. HENCE, where does it go when it is out of existence?

Solution: The particles travel to the 5th dimension where they do not experience time.

There are many experiments that are evidence of this. The double slit experiment is the big one.

www.youtube.com...

The latest test result at CERN with the neutrinos that arrived sooner than expected indicating they traveled faster than light is also evidence that the 5th dimension exists.

www.guardian.co.uk...

The neutrinos travel in the 5th dimension as if time cloaked. They travel in the 5th dimension where their event (travel) is not recorded in time. This is why they arrive before Einstein says they should. They appear to travel faster than light because we do not experience the 5th dimension and we only observe the effects of the 5th dimension.

Would you like more evidence?

This video does talk about the 5th dimension but they just call it empty space because they don't know what to call it yet. ( jump to 20 min. )

www.youtube.com...

More to come.
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awesome post, consciousgod,

you're totally correct, what you're talking about IS the spirit world.

space/time = our world, 3 dimensions of space & 1 of time.

time/space = spirit world, 3 dimensions of time & 1 of space.

this is completely concurrent with the works of physicist Dewey B. Larson. look him up to find out more behind the physics of this universe vision.

also, read the book The Source Field investigations by David Wilcock. Wilcock's book is wholly based upon the space/time time/space theory presented by Dewey Larson and the Ra Material.

Dewey Larson's physics is based upon 1 thing that mainstream science does not yet comprehend: according to Dewey, when an object's acceleration ("moving" or "stationary"/spin) approaches the speed of light, mass actually decreases instead of the presumed increase.

once an objects vibrational speed or spin starts to cross over the speed of light, the atoms of said object begin to transfer over into their time/space duplicates. with this model many things can be explained, from teleportation, to "time shielding" to "anti gravity" to the building of the pyramids.

yes, the building of the pyramids. one of the best parts of Wilcock's book is his hypothesis about the use of tibetan-style chanting as a tool to create the pyramids.

i'll repost a section of a previous post i made in another thread here because it seems relevant.

Now secondly, Wilcock cites a little known book called With Mystics and Magicians in Tibet by Alexandra David-Neel.

in this it is explained how the tibetans accomplished "acoustic levitation". A scene is described of cliffs, of which tibetan monks were building a stone wall at the top, from the ground at the bottom. I'm not going to detail everything that is in the book, but the short of it is this: a large group of 13 drumming monks, 6 trumpeting monks, and 200 mindfully meditating monks were able to lift stones (1 meter by 1 meter in diameter) slowly up to the top of the cliff in a lumbering 500-meter arc.

they modified the diameter of their drums and trumpets in order to make an exact mathematical correspondence to the size of the stone that they wished to move. As a group, they then formed a sort of 90 degree semicircle and oriented the focal point of this "arc" of tibetans toward the stone in question. Wilcock goes on to explain (scientifically) how this was possible.

The power of the drums, trumpets, and chanting made a perfect vibrational resonance that literally resonated every atom of the stone. They effectively resonated the atoms of the rock over the light speed boundary, making them weightless. This also forced the accelerated atoms out of space-time and into time-space, and used levity to fight gravity. As many as half of the atoms were no longer in reality, making the stone soft and malleable, like clay.

thanks to some atoms being in time/space instead of space/time, this effectively made the limestone rock MUCH less dense. then it would be easy slice and dice the rock in order to "reshape" the stones so they fit together perfectly.

s & f

The theory described by the OP is called the Reciprocal System of Physical Theory, by Dewey B. Larson.

Dewey B. Larson (1898 - 1990) was an American engineer and author, who was born in North Dakota and grew up in the Western United States. He developed the Reciprocal System of Physical Theory, or RST, a comprehensive, general, system of physical theory published in a three volume set entitled The Structure of the Physical Universe.

www.lrcphysics.com...

this is a helpful page:
library.rstheory.org...

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Hi, Metalshredmetal:
Thanks for your recommending David Wilcock and Dewey B. Larson.
I've been reading Ra Materials for one years, and I'm a Believer of the Law of One.
Now I just begin to read the source field investigation by DW as I have some free time in this months,for I want to know more about the reality.
So I have a question, If I read The Structure of the Physical Universe, Can I understand Dewey B.Larson's books? For I'm not good at physics and math. I just study psychology in University myself. Or have you read these three volumes?
What's your opinions and suggestions?
Waiting for your reply. Thanks!
[PS:I try to send you a message, however failed, it says you only can send private messages to ATS members,]

Originally posted by consciousgod
Time cloaking a particle like in below link is evidence that the particle is not in our universe.

abcnews.go.com...

Did you read the article? It said nothing about anything leaving our universe. When David Copperfield made a plane disappear, the plane didn't really go anywhere, it was an illusion. That's all the researchers did is made an illusion with a well known property of bending light in materials other than a vacuum, like glass.

The extra energy spike on CERN instruments is probably energy leaking from the 5th dimension. CERN did the test for me and provided the results. I feel CERN needs a bigger hole and a bigger bang before they will see the light.

Are you saying CERN is not scientific enough for you to consider valid science?

No I'm saying you didn't cite any article from CERN backing up the wild claims you're making. where do they attribute anything to a 5th dimension?

Here is more evidence of leakage from the 5th dimension. On the quantum level, space-time is grainy as evidenced by this article:

www.khouse.org...

The graininess of space-time may be caused by a constant leakage of energy from quantum space between quarks that manifest as expanding space.

More making up BS, as the article says nothing about a 5th dimension.

This may also be the source of what is called the cosmic background radiation.

The cosmic background radiation may not only be residual radiation left over from the big bang; but a by-product of leakage of expanding space from the 5th dimension.

Again made up. Source for this 5th dimension claim?

Like this next article states, it is well known that quantum particles pop in and out of existence.

www.scientificamerican.com...

It is easy to understand the "in existence" part, but the "out of existence" part should be puzzling to most people. HENCE, where does it go when it is out of existence?

Solution: The particles travel to the 5th dimension where they do not experience time.

Who says they go anywhere? They self annihilate, says the theory.

There are many experiments that are evidence of this. The double slit experiment is the big one.

www.youtube.com...

The latest test result at CERN with the neutrinos that arrived sooner than expected indicating they traveled faster than light is also evidence that the 5th dimension exists.
www.guardian.co.uk...

Where does it say anything about a 5th dimension? It doesn't.

Would you like more evidence?

More evidence? You haven't provided a shred of evidence yet for the 5th dimension, on the contrary, the absence of anything about a 5th dimension from every single source you cited verifies you're making this up.

Originally posted by inivux
All I see is a bunch of pseudo-scientific, metaphysical ramblings (complete with contrived buzz words), and absolutely zero mathematical proofs.

Are you able to scientifically prove the existence of these concepts you describe?

edit on 12-1-2012 by inivux because: (no reason given)

Party Pooper.

Did you read the article? It said nothing about anything leaving our universe. When David Copperfield made a plane disappear, the plane didn't really go anywhere, it was an illusion. That's all the researchers did is made an illusion with a well known property of bending light in materials other than a vacuum, like glass.

Yes I read it. And yes it does Not say anything about the particle leaving our universe. However, the article did say the event was not recorded in time. Use your brain. Time is not a material object that humans can manipulate and make appear to disappear. You just do not get it, and you probably never will.

You should also notice that the article says nothing about an illusion either. There is absolutely no evidence that this is an illusion. You are making that up because that is all your mind can comprehend in that narrow tunnel in which you live. It makes sense to you because you can't see outside of your little box. However I can see outside your narrow little tunnel and there is so much more out there waiting for people like you to wake up and learn how to properly interpret what their senses are showing them.

Since you are convinced that this is an illusion, why don't you show some evidence to back up your claim instead of shooting the messenger as the last resort in defense of your position.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
Who says they go anywhere? They self annihilate, says the theory.

Absurd. Electrons do no annihilate when they orbit an atom. This just shows your ignorance of quantum mechanics. You seem to confuse science with religion where you can pick and choose what data to believe and what data to ignore.

I'm saying you didn't cite any article from CERN backing up the wild claims you're making. where do they attribute anything to a 5th dimension?

Where do they eliminate the 5th dimension as a possibility? They do not, but you do with confidence. CERN always requires way more data than is actually necessary to draw a conclusion. CERN will wait to make the announcement later when the outcome is so obvious that the laymen can understand it.

The evidence is right in front of your face. I did not perform the experiments. I used experiments of others. I do not accept their ambiguous conclusion and I use my mind to draw my own conclusion using logic. I find it interesting that you must have an article spell everything out for you so you don't have to think for yourself. You wait until the expert publishes his IDEA in a paper and then you accept it as if it is divine.

I prefer to think for myself.

Try it sometime. It may open a whole new world for your closed mind to explore. The world was once thought to be flat.

Someone took old data and made a new hypothesis. Guess what? The hypothesis was right. The earth is round and you believe this, I hope. Once upon a time, man thought it impossible to travel faster than a horse. Guess what, a man can. Do you dispute it?

Once upon a time, man thought it impossible to fly. Guess what?

And one more for you. Man once thought it impossible for matter to travel faster than the speed of light. Ooops. Man just got proved wrong again with the neutrino.

It all starts with an idea that turns into a hypothesis, then they test it and test it and test it. When they have tested enough, I am confident the result will not be an illusion as you expect. What we will find out is that we are the illusion and the 5th dimension is the REAL reality.

Since this thread mentions the 5th dimension, I'll add a link to this recent article here...

"Naked black-hole hearts live in the fifth dimension"
www.newscientist.com...

The 5th dimension is real.



Common, its space related.

"The Higgs might be found. The Higgs might not be found. After all that time and all that effort, the Higgs might not exist in the energies we can probe or, might not exist at all. More data, more observation will eventually give us the answer."

www.publicbroadcasting.net...

"A hint of something very interesting.

At an energy of about 125 GeV (giga-electron volts) physicists see an excess of events (signal) above what they would expect from the usual background noise. With the amount of data they have now, the excess signal is large enough to be statistically interesting (around 2.4 ? 3.6 standard deviations, for those who like that kind of thing). The fact that that both experiments see the same signal at the same energy/mass makes the news even more interesting."

Ok, ATS. it is not the Higgs Boson. So was energy created from nothing? The signal is comprised of excess energy and CERN physicist have no idea what or where this energy is coming from.

Now CERN is being shut down for one year. Why? They're scared. They must figure out where the energy is coming from before they can risk cranking up the power.

Hence,

"Maybe physicists have discovered the so-called "God Particle." Maybe it's in this 125 GeV energy zone, where many theorists think the Standard Model would have predicted it to be (though at this energy some new mechanism is needed to keep the Higgs stable and prevent the entire universe from exploding."

Now consider this.

The Higgs Boson, when and if found, will be newly created matter. Is this why it's called the God Particle? But this could be a mistaken identification because the energy spike is not being created in a creation sense of something from nothing. Simply put, CERN has cracked the door open so we can peek into the 5th dimension except the 5th dimension is crowded. So crowded that energy leaks into our reality in a sufficient amount that human's with technology can observe, and the 125 GeV is the right key to open the door just a crack. This could be where all the matter from the big bang originates. All the matter in the universe has to come from somewhere, so maybe the 5th dimension is the source of all; and that would make it God like.

Now, CERN must study the data to determine if the universe will explode if the door is opened wide. CERN should be very careful, there may be a message in the signal from the other side.

This is good reason for pause.

reply to post by consciousgod


nothing gets created from nothing. these "impossible" to find particles that science keeps making up are ALL coming from time/space.

they mostly exist in time/space but have an energy duplicate here in space/time, it just depends on the probabilities of it "showing it's face" in space/time as to whether it will ever be physically found.

i do believe the part about 5th dimensional energy leaking into our dimension. the 5th dimension MUST be a place with much more dense amounts of ambient energy everywhere. the amount of energy there would likely boggle the mind beyond comprehension. this is the source of "zero point" energies.

i don't think the "higgs boson" is going to be what they think it's going to be. there is no "god particle" or "gravity particle".

all particles are the exact same thing just with different qualities, in the same way that we are all humans that perform different "jobs"

it's no secret that all matter is light. this would mean that all matter is a photon in different states.

is an electron really a photon with toroidal topology? paper.

what the higg's boson is, who knows. , we probably won't really know for a long time. obviously we're still debating what an electron is, HA.