Paul / Kucinich Ticket to change politics forever

I would without a doubt cream my pants at the thought. I have been a huge fan of Kucinich for years and have been also a fan of Ron Paul. They are without a doubt two of the most sincere and truthful congressmen in seats. Though there are some pretty radical differences in ideology, both agree where it counts the most: The constitution, checked power (reestablishing checks and balances), drastic changes in foreign policy (ending American imperialism and aggression), and elimination or complete restructuring of the FED and monetary policy.

Let's make it happen!

Originally posted by MajorKarma
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I respect and like Dennis Kucinich fine but two little guys running the country is not visually what I think we need. I support Ron Paul 100% and if asked, I would like him to find someone who is a bit more primitive, a street fighter type..someone tough who would back him up and cover his flanks...a convert from the enemies side, a former insider from the Military for example..someone who really knows our enemies within. I would be looking amongst West Point Grads who have a lot of experience on the inside. My thoughts anyway but Dennis Kucinich is too close and too much like Ron Paul but who ever it is, he has to really know the workings on Capital Hill.

Sounds like you are suggesting Ventura?

I like Ventura just fine, but I don't think he helps a Paul ticket.

I hadn't thought of the "visual" aspect though. That is a little humorous, and maybe just a tiny bit concerning. I really don't think it matters how little the guy at the podium is though. Look at Teddy Roosevelt, and Hitler, and Napoleon! A little guy can command a LOT of power if they have the skills.

Really, would you rather have a solid little guy, with integrity and morals, or a tall, pretty, weakly stuffed suit that goes which ever way the wind blows?

Paul-Kucinich with The Judge, Ventura, and a cabinet full of crazies (in many people's view). Gawd, I love it! All of them minding America and America minding its own business and thereby making the world a better place. Is that what the Ascension, 2012, and The New World Order is all about? I'd be all for it. Bring it on!

Obama vs Romney?? You got to be kidding. Is that the best we can do? Who would that benefit? Not "We the People." Who then?

Originally posted by Wetpaint72
reply to post by getreadyalready
en.wikipedia.org...
He would bring a ton of financing to the campaign along with a vision for alternative energy. Which would fit well with paul's foreign policy plans. Independents, republicans and democrats would have to give this ticked serious consideration.

Please read entire article...of course there is more info all around the inter webs if you are interested.

Search T. Boon Pickens

edit on 11-1-2012 by Wetpaint72 because: (no reason given)

Ohhhh, that Pickens!

I'm not sure how I feel about him? I remember when he was doing his TV commercials last year, but then he kind of fell by the wayside. He had a lot of hype, and I wanted to like him, but he never gave me a very good feeling about him.

Not discounting him, I'd have to do more research before deciding. He did seem to have good motivations, and that is a very important first step!

Paul / Kucinich Ticket ?

Sure, why not. I don't agree with Kucinich on everything, but have been impressed by his independence recently.

Regardless, Ron Paul needs to leave the Republithugs, IMO. They don't respect him or even treat him politely. Wish them well in their quest and run as an independent or Libertarian. Screw the Republithugs!

While I think Ron Paul is THE MAN we need to restore this country to it's once great status, Kucinich is a complete ass! He would be no better than any of the other status quo career politician schmucks we already have. Hell, Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, or even Ted Nugent would be a way better choice.

Cabinet positions:

Rand Paul
Gary Johnson
Peter Schiff
Barry Goldwater, Jr
Jim DeMint
Paul Ryan
Lew Rockwell
John Stossel
Adam Kokesh

Secretary of War: Chuck Norris LOL

Ron will make the right decision when the time comes.

this would be awesome!




lets make it happen!



thank you,thank you, thank you

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As I am sure many have said (I can't wade through more pages of delusional Paul stuff) there's no way in hell Kucinch would EVER do this as he disagree with Paul MORE than he agrees with him.

The only place they really (sort of) agree is in foreign policy.

I am a Kucinich supporter and while I like Paul the best of the Republicans, he's clearly not electable (like Kucinich) and a bi-partisan candidacy would be crush by BOTH the Republicans and the Dems.

I guess I support it, as it would guarantee Obama a win, and he's better than any of the options (including Paul, whose Libertarianism is pretty dangerous, honestly), but it doesn't matter; Dennis wouldn't go anywhere near this. They differ on SO many things. So so so many.

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Absolute S+F mr. moderator sir!

I thought of this idea years ago and in fact stop voting because I realized it was the only way to start a real peace process that brings the vast majority of folks into a united future.

Afterall, our nation's motto is "United We Stand, Divided We Fall."

Plus Kucinich has seen a UFO.

As a non-voter, this is one of the tickets that would restore my faith in humanity and the current train of thought espoused by the majority of human beings.

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I could see RP making him veep and Barney Frank sec. state. seriously

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Ron Paul will be almost 80 and I don't think he could keep up with the rigors of office for a long time .. sorry.

that's nonsense. mentally he's as sharp as a tack and physically he's in great shape. Definitely better than Gingrich and no worse than Romney.

reply to post by getreadyalready

isn't Huntsman related to Cheny?

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I dunno? That would be interesting. If you follow those bloodline threads everybody is related to everybody! It would be interesting to know if they are related, and how closely though.

Originally posted by Imlookingthroughyou
If this became a reality i would probably cry, they are probably the only two people who know what the hell they are doing! If paul wins the nomination he should pick either Kucinich or Chris Criste NJ governer.

no, if it was CC they (the black projects groups) could assassinate RP and wind up with another LBJ who is willing to do their bidding. they might hesitate if DK is second in command, if not the only other viable candidate is Rand.

Originally posted by ForeverDusk
As much as I would absolutely love to see a Paul/Kucinich ticket, it wouldn't work. It would be political suicide for Paul. Republicans wouldn't vote for him. People are so divided by party lines that they will not see the benefits of this sort of ticket. We have a long way to go before we ever reach that point again where red and blue aren't so vehemently against each other.

I'm sure if Paul would explain his reasons for choosing or not choosing Dennis, most people would understand. love your avatar clip by the way

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There is the problem. Looking at the VP slot two different ways.

One way is who can help to get Paul elected, and also maintain the level of integrity and morality of Paul.

The second way to look at it is who would we want to follow Paul in the case of a death? That is a broader group. I think Ventura, Napolitano and a few others fit into that broader group, but only a narrow few fit both groups, with Kucinich being my #1 choice! He could help Paul win the election, and send a message to the population and to the establishment, and he would also be a great guy to follow Paul into office if anything happens to Paul.

Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
As I am sure many have said (I can't wade through more pages of delusional Paul stuff) there's no way in hell Kucinch would EVER do this as he disagree with Paul MORE than he agrees with him.

The only place they really (sort of) agree is in foreign policy.

I am a Kucinich supporter and while I like Paul the best of the Republicans, he's clearly not electable (like Kucinich) and a bi-partisan candidacy would be crush by BOTH the Republicans and the Dems.

I guess I support it, as it would guarantee Obama a win, and he's better than any of the options (including Paul, whose Libertarianism is pretty dangerous, honestly), but it doesn't matter; Dennis wouldn't go anywhere near this. They differ on SO many things. So so so many.

edit on 12-1-2012 by captainnotsoobvious because: (no reason given)

I agree with Captainnotsoobvious completely, although we differ somewhat in our evalution of the two individuals (I hosted a fundraiser for Dr. Paul the first time he ran for president in 1988 and have been a supporter of him ever since, while I think that Dennis Kucinich is a crypto-socialist whose beliefs in things like "chem-trails" puts him firmly in the nut-bar side of reality).

Such an ill-advised pairing of the two men only serves to underscore the silliness of the "left-right" dichotomy that so many people buy into.

Dr. Paul, being a libertarian, believes in limited government and individual freedom.

Quite a few lefties (Mr. Kucinich is a prime example) believe in some freedoms (especially lifestyle ones); and tend to abjure foreign entanglements (especially inconvenient ones). But these same lefties have no problem with a big nosy government which will steal your money and your right to arm yourself, make contracts and have control over your own property.

Quite a few righties (pick ninety percent of the Senate and House Republicans) also believe in some freedoms (especially economic ones); but these same righties have no problem with a big nosy government which will involve us in militaristic adventures and steal your right to medicate yourself, have sex with whomever you wish, and protest peacefully in the streets.

Both the 'lefties' and the 'righties' (or, (as they like to style themselves, "progressives" and "conservatives") are both, underneath all the blow-hard bluster, just two different sides of the same corporate fascist, welfare-warfare statist coin.

A Statist pig like Kucinich has more in common with other Statist pigs like Jim DeMint or Rick Santorum that he does with Dr. Paul. Paul believes in personal freedom and liberty, period. The other individuals, when you get right down to it, both want a big nosy goverment to carry out their disparate "left" and "right" agendas.

A pox on them both!

reply to post by getreadyalready

just don't forget: it won't change either way if RP is not elected. there is no other choice. the people who say he is unelectable are basically saying that we the people have lost the battle for liberty. we have handed our lives over to them on a plastic tv dinner tray.

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I agree with that