our DNA reacts to our bodies emotions even when miles away

its sort of a long read but there are other scientist viewpoints on this subject.

www.fmbr.org...

An idea:

If one can learn to allow love to emcompass their negative emotions, eg. you have a strong emotional response (negative) from losing your job, if you welcome these feelings rather than supress them, even if you truly believe it was none of your fault, you allow your heart to tranform these negative energies into positive ones.

Might sound like a bit of mumbo jumbo the way i explained it, basically, no matter what situation, keep your cool like you would in school, don't act the fool and just jump staight in the pool (none of these slow walk-ins)

The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle teaches that when one focuses their attention towards any negative feeling, the mind conditions these 'pain-bodies' which then either diminish or are converted to positive aspirations (eg. solutions, moving on)

Originally posted by tauristercus

Originally posted by Foxy1
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

This scientist does not claim this research is coming from another scientist involved in botany, the first thing he states in this vid is this is a military experiment. perhaps you are referring to another experiment?

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A military experiment, huh ?
In that case, please go right ahead and post a link to that specific military experiment and the peer reviewed results obtained confirming the "alleged" findings.

here they are www.ctpenergy.com...

Originally posted by tauristercus

Originally posted by IEtherianSoul9
reply to post by Foxy1

 

These scientists have found that the heart has its own independent nervous system – a complex system referred to as "the brain in the heart." There are at least forty thousand neurons (nerve cells) in the heart – as many as are found in various subcortical centers of the brain.

The heart is sort of a "mini-brain" in a way.

www.therealessentials.com...

Nope .... the heart is a muscle and has NO processing or computational capabilities in any way comparable to the brain.

A second brain in the heart is now much more than a hypothesis. Heart transplanted Memories is the discovery by prominent medical experts that recipients of heart transplants are reporting huge changes in their tastes, their personality, and, most extraordinarily, in their memories. Today new science is testing the theory that the heart is involved in our feelings, that it is intelligent and that it sometimes can lead the brain in our interpretation of the world around us.

This could be a new paradigm shift, however it is still a theory explaining such a strange phenomena.

I suggest you read this: madurasinghe.blogspot.com...

Originally posted by Foxy1
its sort of a long read but there are other scientist viewpoints on this subject.

www.fmbr.org...

Sorry, but last time I checked the "Subtle Energies and Energy Medicine: An Interdeiciplinary[sic] Journal of Energetic & Informational Interactions, Volume 8, Issue 2, July 20, 1999." isn't regarded as a scientific publication.

Here's a link to 16,804 scientific journals: Scientific Journal Master List.

Can you find anything about it in any scientific journals? I checked, the new age publication you referenced isn't listed.

As I said, Cleve Baxter has many followers and admirers. But I don't know of any who are scientists.

Originally posted by Foxy1
its sort of a long read but there are other scientist viewpoints on this subject.

www.fmbr.org...

The "Foundation for Mind Being Research" ... yet another new-age and pseudo-science so-called institute.

Here's a little gem taken from their site:

Let's define what we mean by non-local phenomena. When we talk about a local connection we refer to cause and effect in spacetime. We know the cause, we know the effect, and we can trace the mechanism of the signal. However, when we talk about a non-local connection, cause and effect are linked outside of spacetime. We can know the cause, we can know the effect, but we have no discernible mechanism or signal in spacetime. Therefore, we postulate that the signal "traveled" through non-spacetime, i.e., pre-space.

We believe that for the human body, non-local effects, which initially appear at the sub-atomic level, will be detectable as changes in the molecular structure of cells. Such changes will alter the body's cellular communication process and therefore can affect both behavior and body healing ...

So, non-local effects are mediated through/by some mysterious medium they call pre-space ?
First that I've heard of such a medium ... but of course their is again, peer reviewed documentation of this pre-space that apparently the human body is capable of utilizing in order to effect molecular communication ?

And the founder, William C. Gough ... his scientific credentials/publications would be found where ?

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great read thanks for contributing interesting relevant information

Originally posted by Foxy1

Originally posted by tauristercus
In that case, please go right ahead and post a link to that specific military experiment and the peer reviewed results obtained confirming the "alleged" findings.

here they are www.ctpenergy.com...

I searched that link for "heart" and found two occurrences, neither was a reference to heart DNA.

Keep looking.

Originally posted by Foxy1

here they are www.ctpenergy.com...

So, this CTP Energy & Club is a military organization ?
Don't think so.

C'mon ... where's the REAL scientific research and peer reviewed data ? Surely it exists and is readily available ?

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Foxy1

Originally posted by tauristercus
In that case, please go right ahead and post a link to that specific military experiment and the peer reviewed results obtained confirming the "alleged" findings.

here they are www.ctpenergy.com...

I searched that link for "heart" and found two occurrences, neither was a reference to heart DNA.

Keep looking.

just look down at experiment number 2 it goes more in depth of the details than the video does.

Originally posted by Foxy1
just look down at experiment number 2 it goes more in depth of the details than the video does.

Taken from experiment number 2:

The military wanted to see how far away they could separate the donor from his DNA and still get this effect. They stopped testing after they separated the DNA and the donor by 50 miles and STILL had the SAME result. No lag time; no transmission time.

The DNA and the donor had the same identical responses in time. What can this mean? Gregg Braden says it means that living cells communicate through a previously unrecognized form of energy. This energy is not affected by time and distance. This is a non-local form of energy, an energy that already exists everywhere, all the time. CTP Energy

1. Which military ?
2. Previously unrecognized form of energy ?
3. CTP energy ?

Everyone's personal alarm/BS meter should be registering loud and clear by now !

The above is nothing but pure pseudo-science and quackery.

Why are sooooo many of you being sucked into believing this stuff with NO evidence being presented to substantiate the claims ?

Originally posted by tauristercus

Originally posted by Foxy1

here they are www.ctpenergy.com...

So, this CTP Energy & Club is a military organization ?
Don't think so.

C'mon ... where's the REAL scientific research and peer reviewed data ? Surely it exists and is readily available ?

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edit on 10/1/12 by tauristercus because: (no reason given)

hehe pics or it didnt happen? sorry I cant find a goverment experiment website showing our military's results on any experiment regardless of this one...I highly doubt I would if I tried all day really..

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I don't find this voodoo or new age.
Is quantum mechanics magic or non-science ?
How is this different from any entanglement ?

Quantum mechanics is quackery ?

Originally posted by tauristercus

Originally posted by Foxy1
just look down at experiment number 2 it goes more in depth of the details than the video does.

Taken from experiment number 2:

The military wanted to see how far away they could separate the donor from his DNA and still get this effect. They stopped testing after they separated the DNA and the donor by 50 miles and STILL had the SAME result. No lag time; no transmission time.

The DNA and the donor had the same identical responses in time. What can this mean? Gregg Braden says it means that living cells communicate through a previously unrecognized form of energy. This energy is not affected by time and distance. This is a non-local form of energy, an energy that already exists everywhere, all the time. CTP Energy

1. Which military ?
2. Previously unrecognized form of energy ?
3. CTP energy ?

Everyone's personal alarm/BS meter should be registering loud and clear by now !

The above is nothing but pure pseudo-science and quackery.

Why are sooooo many of you being sucked into believing this stuff with NO evidence being presented to substantiate the claims ?

well its pretty obvious your here to prove this guy wrong. All I can say is I appreciate your scrutiny..this is what open discussion is all about. Everyone thought the world was flat I suppose until someone had the technology to prove it wasnt. When someone goes out on a limb to try to give mankind a better understanding of reality through experimentation I think they deserve more praise than negative feedback. but I guess thats just me hehe.

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Apparently a swab of cells from inside the mouth. React to Emotional trauma in the donor as he or she wanders miles away down a street. Theirs a change in their electroconductivity, as different emotions are felt by the donor..Wichcraft anyone?

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Is emotion a type of energy field and is it infact faster or equal to the speed of light?

No offense, but you are not qualified to ask that question if you asked that question, lol.


Everything about you gets transmitted miles and miles at the speed of light. Right now there is a photon near Pluto that contains some sort or energy it got from you a long time ago.

In fact, right now you are breathing at least one molecule that Abraham Lincoln breathed in.




But no quantitative information is transmitted. It just means it tapped off you and bounced off.


Please don't add mystic existential lies to real science.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Foxy1

 

Is emotion a type of energy field and is it infact faster or equal to the speed of light?

No offense, but you are not qualified to ask that question if you asked that question, lol.


Everything about you gets transmitted miles and miles at the speed of light. Right now there is a photon near Pluto that contains some sort or energy it got from you a long time ago.

In fact, right now you are breathing at least one molecule that Abraham Lincoln breathed in.




But no quantitative information is transmitted. It just means it tapped off you and bounced off.


Please don't add mystic existential lies to real science.

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You dont need qualifications to ask questions, We went to the moon in science fiction books before we did in reality. Einstein once said imagination is more important that knowledge. in fact this whole thread ties in with Einstien's "Spooky action theory"
it was noted that there was no lag time between the corelation between the subject and the dna's matching results. No lag time doesnt mean the speed of sound..it means something more akin to the speed of light if you catch my drift.

Originally posted by sealing
reply to post by Arbitrageur

 

I don't find this voodoo or new age.
Is quantum mechanics magic or non-science ?
How is this different from any entanglement ?

Quantum mechanics is quackery ?

Yes, voodoo, new age and pseudo-science ....

Quantum mechanics is SCIENCE ... because it's reproducible by many researchers, has been peer reviewed and verified many times.
Entanglement is SCIENCE ... because it's reproducible by many researchers, has been peer reviewed and verified many times.

The subject of this thread is NOT science ... because it hasn't been reproduced by other researchers, has NOT been peer reviewed and has NOT been verified.

Originally posted by Foxy1
well its pretty obvious your here to prove this guy wrong.

On the contrary, all I'm asking for is that you, as the thread originator, provided substantiated evidence that corroborates the claims being made in the vid ... nothing more, nothing less.

Personally, I'd be more than pleased if a new and previously unknown "effect" is discovered ... after all, isn't that what the progress of science is built upon ? But such a radically new claim MUST be backed up with corroborating evidence that has been verified by scientific peers. It's simply NOT sufficient to have someone make an 8 min Youtube vid claiming all sorts of new effects being observed and to expect the world to accept those claims at face value ... to do so would be poor science, indeed !

And unfortunately, you have NOT supplied ANYTHING that validates those claims and most importantly, also been verified and validated. A Youtube vid and links to 2 "non-scientific" websites is not good enough.

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this guy greg is no stranger to Dna experimentation and has been discussing his dna experiments for years with outside military funding it seems. he was discussed on this site here www.abovetopsecret.com...
back in 2009 about his book "Speaking the Lost Language of God" which took 8 years to pass peer review. So he is no stranger to scrutiny.