Debunk this: New UFO Video taken at night over Campinas, Brazil.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by Phage
Here's something of interest.

Two problems I see with this comparison.
1. the balloons are gone and out of sight after one minute from launch while the OP's clip is 4x the length of time without a launch.
2. They don't look anything like the OP's clip

Did you ever consider the possibility that lighted balloons can be filled with air and dropped out of a hot air balloon, instead of filled with helium and launched from the ground?

Once you consider that, does it really look that much different?

I highly doubt there was a hot air balloon involved here now. Now your just guessing and contradicting for the sake of well...contradiction.

reply to post by bottleslingguy


Exactly. It makes perfect sense.

reply to post by FlySolo

1) Perhaps it was not as windy on the night in question. Perhaps the video in the OP is using a zoom lens.

2) They look very much like the video in the OP. Lights showing random movement while staying together. The description is also a clue. Sounds like a rising string of balloons to me.

In the video below, glimmering lights, rising in a spiraling column hundreds of feet long, is filmed against the inky black nighttime skies over Campinas.

news.gather.com...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by FlySolo

 

1) Perhaps it was not as windy on the night in question. Perhaps the video in the OP is using a zoom lens.

2) They look very much like the video in the OP.

But isn't it more windy with altitude?

reply to post by FlySolo

Not necessarily. There can be less wind above the surface but we have no idea of knowing that from the video.

Sounds like a rising string of balloons to me.

In the video below, glimmering lights, rising in a spiraling column hundreds of feet long, is filmed against the inky black nighttime skies over Campinas.

news.gather.com...

Near the end of the four-minute video, the lights simply wink out.

reply to post by Phage


Do LED lights "wink out"?

reply to post by FlySolo

Do batteries die?

reply to post by Phage


Oh c'mon Phage. With all do respect, you are a really smart man and I'm not blowing sunshine either. All the batteries died at the same time? Why would you even consider answering like that?

We know the batteries didn't just die. So lets explain why they winked off

With no point of reference, who is to say it's not filmed looking at the lights up the side of a mountain? Its just lights on a black background...no stars...no clouds...nothing. I'm more of the believe that we are all being "punked".

reply to post by gavron


Would that be a mountain with or without trees?

reply to post by FlySolo

Why not? Batteries don't just die? I guess you've never played around with mini-LEDs.
Batteries have a certain life. When power is drawn from them at a certain rate they will lose their charge at more or less the same time. Unless one is an Energizer of course, then it keeps going and going and going.

Watch the video. They don't all go off at the same time.

reply to post by Phage


What is the lowest voltage found in a mini LED?

Here's a couple:

Shared Features

Rubber O-Ring Sealed To Protect Against Moisture
Black Anodized Brass Case Resists Corrosion and is Anti-Reflective
Water Resistant
Ultra Light / Ultra Small
LED Sub-Mini Features

Keychain Loop
6.5cm long, 0.50cm body, 0.80cm head
1 to 4 Hour Battery Life (depending on wavelength)
Uses one Lithium 3 Volt Pin Battery BR435 (Included)
LED Mini Features

Pocket Clip
Lanyard Hole
10cm long, 0.50cm body
Uses two Lithium 3 Volt Pin Batteries BR435 (Included)
2 to 10 Hour Battery Life (depending on wavelength)

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by FlySolo

 

Watch the video. They don't all go off at the same time.

edit on 1/10/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Regardless. They should have at least one-hour.

Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by gavron

 

Would that be a mountain with or without trees?

Sorry I should have posted an example:
Climbers at night

or this:

reply to post by FlySolo

How do you how long they had been on?

Originally posted by gavron

Originally posted by FlySolo
reply to post by gavron

 

Would that be a mountain with or without trees?

Sorry I should have posted an example:
Climbers at night

Ok, so with trees. However, there is no flicker associated with trees at 1:31 or other various points of the clip. It is not consistent with trees and climbers.

Originally posted by FlySolo
It is not consistent with trees and climbers.

It's more consistent with UFOs then ?

reply to post by Phage


You're making it easy for me. If you are suggesting they burned out after their life-span of an hour, yet the clip shows them falling at speeds for a whole duration of a 4 min clip. Then those balloons must have been in the air doing nothing for some time. Which debunks the whole balloon theory quite nicely.

reply to post by gavron


I'm only pointing out the flaws in a mundane balloon, LED, skydiver..etc answer. While these seem to be the most easily explained and over-used answers, most people don't take the time to actually analyze their statements.
As in my discussion with Phage regarding batteries.

If these are indeed balloons falling onto a mountain, then I can bet they won't make it past 50' without getting stuck in a tree. Yet they do and by some stroke of luck they all drain their batteries at the same time.

reply to post by FlySolo

I don't see anything falling, there is no point of reference. In fact the description is that they were rising.

You have no way of knowing how long the LEDs may have been on before the balloons were released. A party perhaps, with the balloons released after being tethered for a while for people to enjoy.