Venus can be deceptive

I just wanted to share this little film a made last night. It shows Venus, it was made with a cellular phone and my intention was to show how easy one can be fouled by Venus. Everybody should learn to “read” the sky, and the arc that bright planets (like Venus or Jupiter) follows.

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Your link isn't working. You need to copy the string that comes after "v=" and paste it into the box that comes up when you press the "Youtube" button.

Here's OP's video:



And...





Venus also here.....

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It's worth pointing out that the "crystalline structure" is due to the arrangement of sensors on the camera's CCD. (Charge Coupled Device.)

Originally posted by DJW001
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It's worth pointing out that the "crystalline structure" is due to the arrangement of sensors on the camera's CCD. (Charge Coupled Device.)

Absolutely right! Thanks for the precision.

I'm trying to remember the last time we had a "diamond" UFO video pop up on ATS.

I think it's been a while.

That's a good thing!

I know what you mean about Venus OP. It's been really HUGE and BRIGHT here over London the last few nights! When it first caught my eye I even thought I saw it move (this was down to the clouds in front of it moving)
I even had to check my phones starmap to make sure what I was looking at wasn't all that freaky!

Venus is used too many times as an excuse to debunk certain cases, even when its obvious it was not venus But its the same with many cases when it comes to de-bunkers. Take the coyne ufo case De-bunkers said what they saw was a meteor. They completly ignored what the witnesess said and came to their own conclusions.

This happens too many times

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You mean 'fooled' not 'fouled' right?

You know, I really really have to wonder if these non-contrails that are traipsing our skies, aren't indeed changing the atmosphere. Because nothing for nothin'......many of the celestial bodies are illuminating like crystal prisms lately.
I mean, have you checked out some of the stars? Not sure which stars exactly (Arcturus maybe?) They have color to them that I've never seen before. Even our planets are emitting colors too.

Oh for the love of gawd. This is why people are so stuck on stupid. I went to look up 'stars' and on this official "Stars in our Sky" website, they are saying our planets are stars
www.scopecity.net...

These are PLANETS not STARS!!!!!!
Morons!

Originally posted by Human_Alien
You mean 'fooled' not 'fouled' right?

No fouled is more appropriate...

I for one am getting fed up with all these uber skeptics posting NON UFO videos in the UFO Alien thread. Since this is a video of VENUS, put it in the SCIENCE section...

Its NOT a UFO Stop cluttering the topic

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They haven't updated the fact that Venus is gone!

Morons!!

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I for one am getting fed up with all these uber skeptics posting NON UFO videos in the UFO Alien thread. Since this is a video of VENUS, put it in the SCIENCE section...

Its NOT a UFO Stop cluttering the topic

The idea is to prevent the forum being cluttered with easily identified items, like Venus, in the belief that they are UFOs.

Originally posted by DJW001
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It's worth pointing out that the "crystalline structure" is due to the arrangement of sensors on the camera's CCD. (Charge Coupled Device.)

If you're talking about the pixellated effect at 00:13, that's what it looks like to me too.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
I'm trying to remember the last time we had a "diamond" UFO video pop up on ATS.

I think it's been a while.

That's a good thing!

You're right Chad, I don't recall seeing one for a while either. That's usually due to the shape of the camera's aperture.

Originally posted by DJW001
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I for one am getting fed up with all these uber skeptics posting NON UFO videos in the UFO Alien thread. Since this is a video of VENUS, put it in the SCIENCE section...

Its NOT a UFO Stop cluttering the topic

The idea is to prevent the forum being cluttered with easily identified items, like Venus, in the belief that they are UFOs.

I recall reading somewhere that Venus is very commonly reported as a UFO. So I agree, it doesn't hurt to educate people about how easily it not only can be, but has been mistaken for a UFO.

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I recall reading somewhere that Venus is very commonly reported as a UFO. So I agree, it doesn't hurt to educate people about how easily it not only can be, but has been mistaken for a UFO.

And it has also been used to debunk ufo cases, when in these cases, it clearly was not venus. Its a get out card for debunkers

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No doubt about that, but that's probably an inescapable result of the fact that so many of the cases debunked as Venus actually were Venus...but no doubt it was inappropriately applied in some cases.

One case I've always wondered about was President Jimmy Carter's sighting, which some people tried to claim was likely Venus, though Carter insisted it wasn't. Unfortunately when you file your report of your sighting 4 years after your sighting, and you're not even sure of the date of the sighting, it's pretty much a hopeless cause to determine if Venus was in that part of the sky at the time of the sighting. The best thing would have been to go look at a star/planet chart right after the sighting (now we'd use Stellarium), or at least file the report right away so we'd know the correct date/time. Sadly, we'll never know in the case of Carter's sighting due to the uncertainty.

Originally posted by DJW001
The idea is to prevent the forum being cluttered with easily identified items, like Venus, in the belief that they are UFOs.

So instead it is better to clutter the UFO area with non UFO's instead?



So maybe I should do a thread on objects identified as UFOs too... like these



I really like this one



Much better than that tired old "Its Venus" excuse you uber skeptics use like a broken record

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So maybe I should do a thread on objects identified as UFOs too... like these

Please do. Far be it for me to dictate what people should be able to post!

THAT is why THIS thread was created....
However, I find most people are very very lazy and refuse to do any research themselves on what they may have seen. Their desire for their object to be identified as extraterrestrial can cloud all logic......

Stellarium and even Google Sky (for one's smartphone) are the best sources to see what is up there at your location, time and date. No reason to be confused if you use both of those sources.

All the other sources on that thread will list other resources for various misidentified "things"....