$5 million per day Masonic Conspiracy!!!

reply to post by Skyfloating

We desperately wish someone would finally post them.

Who do you think will risk to give names and dates? Please,let's leave it here,I already made a mistake by interfering here,again Please...

Originally posted by diamondsmith
Who do you think will risk to give names and dates? Please,let's leave it here,I already made a mistake by interfering here,again Please...

If you are witness to a crime, report it to the police. Its as simple as that. Whats the point of mentioning secrets you know if you dont intend to share them?

reply to post by Skyfloating
you are right,they are good people and they do a good thing with the charity,and I know nothing about politicians and money,and it's an illusion that masons has anything to do politics.I was wrong, I imagine that.
So,please forgive me and let come to a pond.
This is my last reply here.

Originally posted by diamondsmith
This is my last reply here.

One could hope. Somehow that never seems to be the case, no matter how many people claim it…

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

Seriously though, thats more than a BILLION a year. Thats amazing and I had no idea.

I know that we give to charity in our lodge and most lodges do, but this figure of $5 million per day seems inflated. I've heard it before and when we discussed it in lodge we all agreed that we thought the actual number was nowhere NEAR that much.

Originally posted by diamondsmithI don't know maybe I am wrong but when you do GOOD only GOD should know.

1) By personal experience, I'd guess that roughly 45% of Masonic charity is anonymous. It's just hard to track for obvious reasons.

2) It's hardly fair to expect someone not to use truth when popular, fanciful lies are spread about them every day.

Originally posted by GhettoRice
Is this strictly from Scottish right? Or other orders as well like Eastern star and such?

It's the sum total of blue lodge and appendant body fundraising activities. He linked to a breakdown by organization.

Just for clarification as well you state this money is "raised", do you know what the contribution amount of that is? I say this because it might be like my own Canadian govt who "pledge" amazing donations to places like Sumatra and other recent disasters, but who never follow up to actually give them the money.

It's more or less illegal in America to conflate "pledged" and "raised". I have to believe the money is where it's supposed to be.

(p.s I do overstand that there are legitimate ones made by these orders but what do the accounting numbers show?)

That's an interesting question, and one easily answered if you're ready to sift through reams of 501(c)3 documentation.

Charity?
To who?
Friend of the mason's or themselves?
A secret socialism club for the elitists minded?

Oh and, all mason's are equal?
So all of that 33 thing doesn't exist?

Can you see the forest trough the trees?

It so happens that during my life time I knew and still know masons of different grades high and low, they all have been and are very inspirational, great people with excellent life ethics, of working middle-class background, showing empathy and concern towards others and also with a great sense of humor.

Originally posted by User8911
Charity?
To who?
Friend of the mason's or themselves?

They help people who need help. Period. You don't have to have any Masonic affiliation or relation to be treated for free at a Masonic hospital. If you need help, and we can give it, we do.

Oh and, all mason's are equal?
So all of that 33 thing doesn't exist?

As an elected officer of my lodge, I outrank any 33° Mason who walks in its doors. 33s don't have any bonus power. It's simply a recognition of the work that they've put in.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by randomname

 

A turkey is nice, but a cutting edge heart drug that stabilizes your arrhythmia is way nicer!

The point is the sheer magnitude of it that surprises me, even as a Mason! I have participated in many of these things myself, but I never once thought that selling those newspapers on a busy street corner was going to add up to $5M per day!

$1,825,000,000 per year just in money raised, not to mention all of the good works, hours spent, and lives impacted. It is quite a feat!

It is real nice how social groups come together to throw money at community problems, solving the issues of a few. Every penny counts. Community problems which could have been prevented if some members of those social groups decided to not put certain products to market.

Consider your example of the cutting edge heart drug. After a while, it will just be a heart drug. But then, the heart drug is for treating the heart problem which may be preventable with a lifestyle that does not require drugs. But the lifestyle came from too much work, not enough time to eat healthy, not enough time to de-stress. That the individual is giving up his or her life for the corporations run by members of these social groups, to provide for family, and coming up short because of unweilding company policies and management. It's reparative treatment instead of preventative treatment, the activity of charity. And it is a good will lottery after the damage. The reparations are not for everybody.

It's a big number but it could be smaller if the damages associated with corporate ignorance from these members of social groups were lessened.

These charities are good for club members to club members. Not for club members to non-club members. Back-patting activity, competitive niceness. Anybody can support a cause, no membership required. I wonder how much they take in in dues annually?

Originally posted by Sandalphon
I wonder how much they take in in dues annually?

Are you ready for it?

Blue Lodge= $65 a year. that includes building maint., Electricity, Trash pickup, Gas, Phone, ect.....

Scottish Rite= $100 a year. that includes building maint., Electricity, Trash pickup, Gas, Phone, ect.....

Shrine= $100 a year. that includes building maint., Electricity, Trash pickup, Gas, Phone, ect.....

The rest of the money collected goes to charity. Now you know our deepest darkest secrets.

Originally posted by Sandalphon
It is real nice how social groups come together to throw money at community problems, solving the issues of a few. Every penny counts. Community problems which could have been prevented if some members of those social groups decided to not put certain products to market.

You want to extend your analogy to the burn victims? Are you going to blame the victim now? Is it a societal problem that people have accidents and suffer burns?

It's a big number but it could be smaller if the damages associated with corporate ignorance from these members of social groups were lessened.

And what makes you think that Masons are in any position in those corporations to make any change?

These charities are good for club members to club members. Not for club members to non-club members. Back-patting activity, competitive niceness.

How is a Mason helping a non-Mason burn victim not good for the burn victim?

Anybody can support a cause, no membership required.

You're entirely right. But there's strength in numbers. You giving $5 to a charity is nice. A hundred guys all dropping an extra $5 in the bucket once a week at lodge functions adds up more quickly though.

You donating blood is fine; a lodge organizing a blood drive that gets 50 people to donate who might not have otherwise is better.

I wonder how much they take in in dues annually?

Well considering that non-profits are exactly that—non-profit—generally we only take in enough to pay the bills. My lodge is actually losing money every year. We've got about $45,000 in the bank account and if we don't raise our dues that's only going to last us about 3 years with our operational expenses. (utilities, rent, meals, etc…)

Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by Sandalphon
I wonder how much they take in in dues annually?

Are you ready for it?

Blue Lodge= $65 a year. that includes building maint., Electricity, Trash pickup, Gas, Phone, ect.....

Scottish Rite= $100 a year. that includes building maint., Electricity, Trash pickup, Gas, Phone, ect.....

Shrine= $100 a year. that includes building maint., Electricity, Trash pickup, Gas, Phone, ect.....

The rest of the money collected goes to charity. Now you know our deepest darkest secrets.

our dues aren't that high...(lodge) but we are very small lodge.

oh and don't forget we handle snakes every 5th Thursday of the month....

reply to post by Skyfloating


If he was "elite of the elite" you think he would waste his time surfing websites like this? Oh ya, and btw, in order to become a mason, you must be indoctrinated, which means that nothing that he says is credible in the slightest. Even if what he's saying is true, Freemasonry is only at the bottom of the pyramid anyways. Only those of "royal" bloodlines ever make it above the bottom tier. If you don't come from high places, you won't be told any more than any of us goyim. Therefore, I'm calling bullspit on this one.

reply to post by getreadyalready


Yup, of course my view is uninformed, after all, I didn't go through the indoctrination process towards becoming a mason, right? */sarcasm* My view is far from uninformed, actually as a matter of fact, mine is more likely to be informed as the only organisation through which I was ever indoctrinated was the armed forces (big mistake) and that's over now, so my mind is free (to the extent that someone with PTSD could be), which is more than I can say for you, my friend. See, those that are most heavily under the influence of "the system" are the least likely to be able to admit that they really don't know anything. Now, here's me admitting that I obviously don't know everything that's going on, however, my brain has never failed me. I was reading at a 10th grade level in grade 2 and teaching myself psychology and anthropology by grade 4, so don't tell me that I'm uninformed.

reply to post by Skyfloating


I agree with you , though if your post was meant as a sarcastic blight. If it wasn't, forum moderator or not, a statement like that is not exactly indicative of a high level of intelligence....no offense of course.

Thank you Brother for your informative post! I can also vouch for the accuracy of your post.

S&F to you.

Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by getreadyalready

 

I, a non Mason, can faithfully vouch for that, friend. At age five, my beautiful daugher was horribly burned over 60% of her little body. within a few days, the hospital bill was over $100,000. I was approached by a man outside her room who told me he was from the Shriner's, and offered not only to pay the bill in full, but to transport my daughter to the Shriner Burn Center in Cincinnati, Ohio. Without this help, I really do not know what I would have done.
Still to this day, my daughter is an adult now, but the Shriners still transport my little step son to his doctor appointments. I have seen with my own eyes what the Freemasons do, and I applaud you all for your charity.
www.shrinershospitalsforchildren.org...

Thank you friend. Have you ever considered joining the fraternity? Freemasonry is one of the most worthwhile things I have done in my life.

Prayers and blessings to you and your family and for the health of your step son.

Originally posted by diamondsmith

Originally posted by da pickles
reply to post by diamondsmith

 

since when do you need to be rich to be mason

Not necessary rich but in business.

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One does NOT need to be in business to be a Mason!

The qualifications to be a Mason are few. The person must be a man, have a belief in a Supreme Being, at least 21 years old, free of any previous felonious criminal convictions and be of good moral character. Loyalty to one’s country is an essential qualification in Freemasonry, and only those are acceptable who cheerfully render obedience to every lawful authority. Disloyalty in any form is abhorrent to a Freemason, and is regarded as a serious Masonic Offense.

Rich? No. In business? No.

So many misconceptions!