Britain threatens military action against Iran

Well, we've had Israel and the US openly threatening Iran on the world stage. It wouldn't seem right if Britain wasn't following in lock-step. Well, here we have more rhetoric aimed at Iran from the Western world.

Britain has issued a stark warning to Iran saying that any attempt to blockade a key trade route in the Gulf will be met with military force from the Royal Navy.

Philip Hammond, the defence secretary, told delegates in Washington DC that Britain will not tolerate an enforced closure of the 34-mile Strait of Hormuz, where 20 per cent of the world's oil passes through.

With the latest moves and Obama's recent decision to share secrets with Russia, I really believe it's about to blow up...quite literally. I'm not trying to fear-monger. I honestly believe it to be true.

Would Iran be so stupid to attempt the blockade at this point? Will they even need to or will the West just create a different scenario if Iran backs off?



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reply to post by freakjive


The west doesn't need to create a different scenario if Iran backs off.

They just want them to toe the line.

Soooo much happening at once, its like information blitzkrieg.

Something meant to be hidden is probably going on right now, with most if not all focus elsewhere.

reply to post by freakjive

Would Iran be so stupid to attempt the blockade at this point? Will they even need to or will the West just create a different scenario if Iran backs off?

If Iran were to back down by not blocking the straight, i would assume the US would make another threat of some kind. To me this is plain bullying, almost like pushing a dog into a corner, eventually the dog will bite back.

It would depend on Iran's situation though, for example it's obvious trade partners (russia, china, turkey) may be willing to defend Iran. Let's say Iran knows it has its back covered by those 3 nations... then it is inevitable that Iran will eventually "flip" because of the constant pressure by the zionists. As long as they assume they have the upper hand in term's of defending their country, they may indeed give the US what it wants. (edit: just to clarify, "blocking the straight" is what the US wants as an excuse to take physical action against Iran).

Although with the current situation i think that Iran is smarter than the US believes, in a case of "never underestimate your opponent". I believe Iran is keeping distance for the benefit of not being seen as the provocateur or the perpetrator.

Iran is playing the game well, so far it's making a mockery of the US failed attempt to try and make Iran look "hostile"... so far the only hostility i have seen is from the US, UK, and Israel.

Would Iran be so stupid to attempt the blockade at this point? Will they even need to or will the West just create a different scenario if Iran backs off?

It's their only option. Really.

The regime will fall if they back down.

reply to post by InsideYourMind





A perfect example is Libya he gave into us and gave up the weapons. It id not save him in the end because it has nothing to do with weapons.


It does however have something to do with oil and the control of it. TPTB can say whatever they want at this point the last 10 years has opened my eyes.

reply to post by InsideYourMind


You must read only news that fits your views,

Both are clearly saber rattling.

It's just a matter of who blinks first.

Another war in the region would result in the further destabizing of the ME, a military victory for the West, and probabaly a end to Western financial entities.

Iran loses, the West loses and the Bankers and MIC win.

The PTB.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by InsideYourMind

 

You must read only news that fits your views,

Both are clearly saber rattling.

It's just a matter of who blinks first.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I tend to disagree with alot of the media and make up my mind about what the logical outcome could be.

However i have no plan of tuning into CNN, Fox, or any other anti-iranian propaganda. I do read some of their headlines from time to time, and it clearly never is my view on the world.

The thing is that Iran is not a hostile nation, they have not invaded, or gone to war with another country in a very very very long time. Before anyone says "they went to war with Iraq", they did not... Iraq invaded them, and Iran retaliated as a measure of self defence.

I understand that alot of people do only read news that fits their view, and this is because the media has fine tuned their opinions into hating Iran for no reason whatsoever, other than the idea that "Iran Bad, America Good".

Another war in the region would result in the further destabizing of the ME, a military victory for the West, and probabaly a end to Western financial entities.

Destabilization yes... unpredictable economy, yes.
More agression towards americans, and anti-american opinions would come of this also.

You also have to note that what the US is doing, is picking off one nation after the other. If this allows to be continued, then who will be next.... Pakistan, China, North Korea, Russia? Do you think one of these nations wants to be surrounded by american-endorsed-dictatorships? They would see it all as a threat and they would end up taking action themselves.

I really have to wonder.. How much control is there here? The ways the U.S. are setting Iran up are obvious enough...and I wouldn't worry if this were either Bush or even Clinton. All 3 had the wisdom to know where the line between Bluff and Bullets lay. If war were to start...Well, I'd feel certain it was 100% intentional and without a moments hesitation I would feel confident they started it knowing everything relevant to the situation and nations involved.

I don't trust Obama OR the people around him that would normally provide the 'wise old man' balance to an over-eager President. I fear he could actually blunder us right into a war by good old fashioned bad judgement.

Britain entering this...baffles me yet further. Two reasons there... First, The U.S. hasn't been anything like a friend to Britain in those diplomatic ways that really matter between leaders. In fact, we've been perfect asses to London right from the start of this administration.

Second tho....Britain, as I keep reading, has a rather large and ....assertive.. Muslim population. Isn't this more than a bit risky when it's KNOWN that Iran's tactics include international efforts through proxy organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas? If the Balloon goes up and Britain is shooting with us....I dare say they'll take more damage from domestic problems than we will. Simple number of cities and size of the country, if nothing else.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Remember not so very long ago, a chap by the name of Werritty hit the headlines over his "relationship" with our own defence minister and attending high level meetings with Israeli government officials?
That goes well beyond what was reported by the corporate media and Werritty, it seems, was also involved with those on the other side of the house too. In other words, he was / is an establishment conduit between the Zionist Israelis and the British political establishment. Notice how very quickly, after the resignation of the minister, the reporting stopped and nothing more has been mentioned?

It is the establishments ties to Israel, through the arms and banking community, not to mention Zionist control over banking and media, that dictates British policy in these matters, NOT what is good for the country.
So, we have Cameron (and by extension Milliband) who would sell us all down the river to please the people who put them in power, in order for those entities to gain more control and even greater financial wealth. Sure, many people will have to die, but that's the cost of doing business for them and, after all, it's not like they, or their kids, are going to be the ones getting killed or maimed.

All these conflicts and it always seems to trace back to the same people and organizations behind them. As always, follow the money and the links that stretch far and wide to find who the puppet masters really are.

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Britain entering this...baffles me yet further. Two reasons there... First, The U.S. hasn't been anything like a friend to Britain in those diplomatic ways that really matter between leaders. In fact, we've been perfect asses to London right from the start of this administration.

As some people have been saying, America seems to have the Israeli government up it's backside.
I'd assume it were the same reason as to why the UK is also getting involved.

Makes you wonder if the zionist states cut off all Israeli aid a long time ago... would there even be tensions with Iran?

I just do not know how this will pan out.

Who will make the first move ?

Do you think the plan is back Iran up so much that they defend themselves.

lets look at what we know.

Iraq = Lie
Vietnam = Lie
pearl harbor = Cover up
Libya = Cover up
9/11 = poss Lie/cover up

What will they come up with to start this war.

As long as we have the net too many people will question things I personally think the Net will be censored first then the propaganda will begin.

reply to post by InsideYourMind

Iran is playing the game well, so far it's making a mockery of the US failed attempt to try and make Iran look "hostile"... so far the only hostility i have seen is from the US, UK, and Israel.

Surely you jest? What about Iran threatening to remove Israel from the map? Oh that's right "Interpretation" issue! Yeah right! And conspiracy theorists call anyone who does not believe what they believe in "Sheeple"! Talk about gullible!

If you are creative enough and don't have your head to far in the sand refer to Google and check all the aggressive rhetoric dribbling out of the terrorist Iranian leader mouths! But than again you may not want to see it and come up with excuses & justifications for their aggressive behavior!

Originally posted by phatpackage
If you are creative enough and don't have your head to far in the sand refer to Google and check all the aggressive rhetoric dribbling out of the terrorist Iranian leader mouths! But than again you may not want to see it and come up with excuses & justifications for their aggressive behavior!

You know, you're right about the Iranians doing no small amount of pushing of their own. That is the biggest problem here. Washington could turn this off and Tehran could turn this off. Neither side really has much interest in backing down even if the political cost domestically wouldn't be high anyway.

Iran has the 12th Imam business to attend to if war should erupt and Washington has a re-election to work for. Additionally, how long has it been since a war time President lost a second term? Obama knows this too.

Sadly, both sides will get entirely too much benefit from an actual war breaking out for me to really have much faith that this will be avoided, however insane it is to the rest of us not in power.

www.international.to...:why-not-attack-iran&catid=97:breaking-news&Itemid=119

Or Iran could just back away from the strait and not make nuclear weapons, problem solved

Originally posted by phatpackage
Surely you jest? What about Iran threatening to remove Israel from the map?

Tit, for Tat.
Israel says the same thing about Iran... and has been saying it far longer. Do you really think Iran is going to simply ignore threats coming from Israel?

Oh that's right "Interpretation" issue! Yeah right! And conspiracy theorists call anyone who does not believe what they believe in "Sheeple"! Talk about gullible!

Calling someone a conspiracy-theorist because they have a different view than yours? How is that any better.

If you are creative enough and don't have your head to far in the sand refer to Google and check all the aggressive rhetoric dribbling out of the terrorist Iranian leader mouths! But than again you may not want to see it and come up with excuses & justifications for their aggressive behavior!

Come up with excuses and justifications for their "aggressive behaviour"? You have got to be kidding me. Iran has not been aggressive on any form of political or military stance recently as far as the world can see.

I have my head in the sand, yet you claim Iranaian leaders are terrorists? Please inform me of the terror crimes they have commited. Google is not a source for information... it's a page ranked search engine, elvis presley is still alive according to some results on google, you'd have to be more specific of the source you got that uncredible info from.

America/Israel has been trying to come up with an excuse for a LONG TIME in order to justify an invasion of Iran. This "nuclear weapons development" is that excuse. It is based on a fantasy of the same reason behind the american slaughter of Iraq.

It's one thing to call an individual a sheeple, but to say the Iranian leaders are "terrorists" because Fox news told you that... i quote:

Talk about gullible!

Maybe you're living the american dream, because as we all know.... you have to be asleep to be part of it.

reply to post by InsideYourMind

Do you really think Iran is going to simply ignore threats coming from Israel?

As you said Tit for tat. Do you have proof Israel threatened Iran first? The were responding to off the map thing!

Calling someone a conspiracy-theorist because they have a different view than yours? How is that any better.

Your right but it is a tit for tat game right?

it's a page ranked search engine

Sure it is! But it does list everything. The tip is go past page!

It's one thing to call an individual a sheeple, but to say the Iranian leaders are "terrorists" because Fox news told you that... i quote:

I do not watch fox news. Again read past page one on the google results. Oh that's right Google deliberately censors all the truth. Haha. The talk to some people in authority or the military. They are not all corrupt like many on ATS would have you believe. Nor are they in any form of the fabled NWO/Illuminati. It is not up to me to hold your hand and do your research for you!

Maybe you're living the american dream, because as we all know.... you have to be asleep to be part of it.

I live the Australian Dream not American. Asleep, bahahah the tin foil must be wrapped pretty tight at this time! What next! Are going to be racist against Australians and claim you must be asleep to live the Australian dream? Not assuming just asking!

reply to post by phatpackage


Iran might have sounded aggressive, but US and their allies have certainly ACTED Aggressively.........just try to review the things West has done to the middle east during the last 60 years or so................and what has Iran done?!..........................Saying that they defend themselves if you attack them!!...........That freaking brownish bastards!!! .......Yeah....lets kill them all so the next time they would gladly keep their arses open till we are all done........sheeeeesh....... some of you guys make me puke............

reply to post by InsideYourMind


Iran is one thing...Russia and China are another. I believe that niether are willing to risk a World War over Iran, nor it's resources.

I would suggest you read, Sun Tzu's " The Art of War" It can be enlightining,

But I have to get to bed, tomorrow is another day,

I look forward to talking to you in the days to come.

Take care.