So If USA Attack Iran & Get Spanked For Thier Trouble - What Will That Do To The MIC?

Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by ken10

 

It would help if you actually read the article you're posting instead of just reading the title because you assume it's going in your favor. Now you look retarded.

It was not clear last night whether the Americans had hit his garrison in error or had been fed wrong information by the main Kurdish faction, the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), which has been trying to wipe out Ansar al-Islam for 18 months.

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PS. The Javelin is a personnel deployed anti-tank weapon so I don't see what that has to do with missiles launched from the Navy

edit on 4-1-2012 by apodictic because: (no reason given)

Well I knew there was instances of US missiles going awry and assumed that was one of them, however it does state in the link you quoted "It was not clear last night whether the Americans had hit his garrison in error"
So a malfunction could still be a possibility ?

Now do you really want me to go looking and make you look totally stupid ?



Oops Too late...

reply to post by ken10


Anything is possible, but I'd be willing to bet my life that wasn't the case. We have the most technologically advanced weaponry on the planet. Go back and read that article again, maybe then it'll make more sense that they were given the wrong destination by a group who had wanted them annihilated.


Oh jeez, you're trying to make me look stupid. Do you have ANY knowledge of our weapon systems at all? The missile was (with a 99% guarantee) off course and was either intentionally destroyed by remote command, or self destructed.

You're grasping at straws kid. Keep trying though.

Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by ken10

 

Anything is possible, but I'd be willing to bet my life that wasn't the case. We have the most technologically advanced weaponry on the planet. Go back and read that article again, maybe then it'll make more sense that they were given the wrong destination by a group who had wanted them annihilated.


Oh jeez, you're trying to make me look stupid. Do you have ANY knowledge of our weapon systems at all? The missile was (with a 99% guarantee) off course and was either intentionally destroyed by remote command, or self destructed.

You're grasping at straws kid. Keep trying though.

Your in denial...



Despite the evidence.


And the difference between me and you is I admitted my mistake ! ...whereas you are being the "Stereotypical" Yank.

Have a good day now.

reply to post by ken10


1. You didn't admit to any of your multiple mistakes.

2. You don't have any knowledge of the fail-safes used in our missile technology

3. You have no credentials to back up that you understand how our missile technology works. In fact, you're proving the contrary that you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

4. You haven't given a single bit of evidence that our Navy deployed weapon systems have failed. The only evidence you've given is that you don't know the internal workings of said systems, and the way the missile crews operate.

5. You're being the "stereotypical limey" by bringing up American stereotypes and bashing where it has absolutely no value, nor anything to do with the topic being discussed.

6. You're backing away because you know you failed.

Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by varikonniemi

 

The only way we know how to fight huh?

That's why the first and last nukes ever used were in WWII, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember any nukes in Vietnam, Desert Storm, OIF, or in Afghanistan, just to name a few.

Edit to add: News flash, the US aren't the only ones in the world who have nukes

edit on 4-1-2012 by apodictic because: (no reason given)

You have never been in a war with someone comparable to you in size. The last time was in war with Japan, where you had to resort to nukes even though your opponent was some 100 times smaller. No other nation on this earth has been as coward as you so that they had to resort to nuclear weapons in war.

If someone should be denied the right to stockpile nuclear weapons, that someone should be the only ones sick enough to use them in war. An i think we all know who that ultimate coward is.

reply to post by varikonniemi


U mad bro? I can't help that everyone's scared of us. They should be. We don't need nukes to kick ass.

And why are you calling "us" a coward? I wasn't even alive back then and I'm sure no one here on ATS was, let alone having a hand in the deployment of the atomic bombs. There's no one to blame other than President Truman.

reply to post by apodictic

1. You didn't admit to any of your multiple mistakes.

Well go back and re-read my posts and you will see this......"I'm sorry try this one then.... "

2. You don't have any knowledge of the fail-safes used in our missile technology

I don't have to, I have only said that other countries missiles are not foolproof either.

3. You have no credentials to back up that you understand how our missile technology works. In fact, you're proving the contrary that you have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

Credentials lol, oh do behave !

4. You haven't given a single bit of evidence that our Navy deployed weapon systems have failed. The only evidence you've given is that you don't know the internal workings of said systems, and the way the missile crews operate.

Umm, Yes I did, Did you not see the video ?

5. You're being the "stereotypical limey" by bringing up American stereotypes and bashing where it has absolutely no value, nor anything to do with the topic being discussed.

Blah blah blah drivel.

6. You're backing away because you know you failed.

HELLO........ I'M HERE

reply to post by apodictic


Well he certainly was a truman according to your standards...

And I mad, bro? Yes, i am to some extent. Everyone demonizes hitler, when he was a saint compared to your tru man.

reply to post by varikonniemi

Do you know anything about the pacific war of ww2 or are you just making your own assumptions?

reply to post by TheMindWar






I hate to bust your bubble but the US will not get spanked. We would destroy there country in a month. If we truly vested into a war most countries would not stand a chance.



I do believe like Ron Paul that it is wrong. But it does not change the simple facts. We would destroy them in a month with little loss on our side.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Just like Afghanistan. 10+ years and still counting. Those pathetic dudes are nothing higher than a 50 cent hood gang. How on earth would you even begin to consider taking on a real opponent like Iran?

I hope you will loose as many military personell as fast as possible. so you can reconsider attacking a nation that has done nothing wrong.

You have started the war against those poor souls, you ought to feel the full wrath of death in your skin.

Originally posted by varikonniemi
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

Just like Afghanistan. 10+ years and still counting. Those pathetic dudes are nothing higher than a 50 cent hood gang. How on earth would you even begin to consider taking on a real opponent like Iran?

Wow you are not seeing the whole picture.




War is about profit not winning. That is why we will stay for another 10 years or longer. You need to see this for what it is. And it is not about winning.



Iran would go the same way we would beat them just enough to take control and then slowly build it into something else while military contractors make a ton of money.

reply to post by ken10


You're basically admitting you have no idea what you're talking about, yet you continue.

Your video does not prove the missile itself malfunctioned. If anything it shows that it did its job by deploying its countermeasures in the correct way and not continuing off course and endangering innocent lives due to human error in its deployment.

Yes, I said credentials. Why exactly are YOU right, as opposed to someone who's been on board a carrier, seen the weapon systems deployed, knows about their capabilities and countermeasures, and is aware of how the missile control center operates upon deployment of these systems?

I knew you couldn't resist replying if I added that last part.

reply to post by varikonniemi


as was said by Subjective Truth, Afghanistan is about our government gaining profit, not about winning any wars. We are there policing and fight back only as we are attacked. We are not actively searching to eliminate any opposition. We set up key positions and keep them held.

reply to post by varikonniemi


HITLER a Saint, huh? A little over 200,000 people killed in Japan, as opposed to Hitler giving the orders to slaughter 6 million+ Jews, gypsies, Poles, and homosexuals.

That sure shows YOUR standards and your will to say what ever it takes to bash the United States any chance you see fit.

I will take anything you say from here on out with a grain of salt after reading that massively ignorant comment. I don't expect any one else to take you seriously, either.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


you may not be so cocky if the iranians brought the war to your shores .
maybe if that happened and bombs started to go off in your citys you would understand that wars benefit no one but the ones cashing in on it.
this is not some pathetic computor game, its where innocent people get maimed and killed.
and for gods sake sort out your own country before you try to change others .
you don't seem to realise that this could lead to a third world war , where everyone on this small planet of ours would suffer

Originally posted by tom.farnhill
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

you may not be so cocky if the iranians brought the war to your shores .
maybe if that happened and bombs started to go off in your citys you would understand that wars benefit no one but the ones cashing in on it.
this is not some pathetic computor game, its where innocent people get maimed and killed.
and for gods sake sort out your own country before you try to change others .
you don't seem to realise that this could lead to a third world war , where everyone on this small planet of ours would suffer

Did you even read my reply? Or is your hatred blinding you?




Go and read and comprehend what I wrote. I am not for the wars I am against them.

reply to post by ZeroUnlmtd


I feel Iran is symbolic of a bigger problem, The US insistance that they know best, they have nukes, but no-one else can, they torture prisoners of war, but no-one else can.

The United States needs someone to finally stand up to them, and the hypocrasy that the worlds only super power now peddles, iran could achieve something, the US is weak, the weakest it has been since the early 1900's,

reply to post by Subjective Truth
if i misunderstood your post i apologise ,

Originally posted by tom.farnhill
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

if i misunderstood your post i apologise ,

No problem it could have seemed that I was pro war I am not. I still think we would destroy them but I do not agree with doing that in the least.


We should fight wars to win them not for profit. And only fight when it is truly needed and not for oil or money or land.