Living Forever or at least for a very long time

I read this article in the Mail Online. [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2081734/Stem-cells-hold-key-stopping-ageing-say-scientists-successful-mouse-trial.html]Stem cells could hold key to 'stopping ageing' say scientists after trial triples mouse lifespan Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...[/u rl].

Basically the article says that scientist have found a way to possibly triple your life span through the use of stem cell technology. My question is, how many people would have their lifespan tripled? For Christians and other believers I would wonder how many would also use this technology? It could be a true test of your faith. I would not use such technology personally. What I intend by this post is really just to raise the issue and see if anyone else has moral questions about the use of such technology. Peace.

I think they need to come up with an "Age Child Zap Gun", so when they get to that age of rebelliousness, all you have to do is press a button, and make them the age you want.

I pick newborn. I can handle dirty diapers and least here they are less destructive. Plus, they wear what you make them wear. "spins head".



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Great, another 2 centuries of Murdoch

In a logical perspective, i don't think this should be released for anyone. We already have 7bn of us on here, imagine the horror of the population in 200 years if everyone lived to 300?! It would not be the quality of life we are living now thats for sure.

Not until we start terarforming other habitable planets should this be used imo.

On another note, for pioneering space exploration (moving to other planets) this would be ideal, as it could takes hundreds of years to get there.

Wouldn't volenter for that myself though.

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i believe it would be very taboo to mess around with stem cells for the purpose of life longevity.can you imagine a corrupt government lasting longer than it needs too...for a religious point a a view,i would think they would have to rewrite the books again.....what i find funny is they just concocted a deadly flu virus for the fun of it that can wipe out half the planet and at the same time try to elongate life

tom

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that would be nice...or better,a cryogenic pause phase for vacations and what not...

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Hmmm. That's an interesting point about space exploration. Never considered that.

As for myself, though, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy to go when it's my time. I really don't understand why anyone would want to spend more than their naturally allotted time in this ****hole anyway. Wherever we go from here, it has GOT to be better than this....

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What I intend by this post is really just to raise the issue and see if anyone else has moral questions about the use of such technology. Peace

I know people claim the Bible is bunk. But I always kind of wondered about it's claims of 1000 year life spans of Adam and Noah. They used to think that people really weren't mature until about a 100 or so. That by then you had worked out any lingering issues regards to upbringing, psychosis, addictions like sex and alcohol, whatever. That by 100 you were finally mature enough to begin life. I don't know about that. Kinda makes a certain sense. Old people nowadays, if they remain sentient, seem patient and wise don't they? They have learned their lessons so to speak.

We spend our lifetimes making mistakes and learning from them. Maybe we die too soon to apply those lessons correctly. Maybe that is part of why we are so screwed up. We don't live long enough to impart those lessons to the next generation so they learn what not to do by example. Of course the world population could hardly stand that. Maybe that invention will be reserved for the "few" that are supposed to survive underground until the rest of humanity kills itself off and then arise to a "New Era". Creepy.

As far as turnng to a mouse to live three times longer in "mousedom", I don't know.

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I think giving everyone this drug would be the best practical joke ever.

I can see it now a morning like no other where the faithfull wake up for their first day of eternity. The priceless look i can only imagine for now. What a great and terrible day that would be.

Id jump at the chance for a longer if not infinite lifespan.

All this crap in parables about the benefit of dying, the burden and boredom of living forever, and the great chance to sleep and rest brought by your ultimate demise is bull.

There's no way in hell you could ever be bored or tired of live living to 500, 5000 or even on infinitely.

It's like there's a concerted effort in all manners of fiction to convince us that long life is not desirable.

There is too much to see, do and learn around every corner and I can honestly say I havent been bored a single day of my life. If I could live so long I'd quit my job, sell my house and go live. I'll worry about retirement and long-term care when I'm 4,000 years old. With lifespans as short as they are now you basically live to die. From your first taxable income you're saving to retire. You have two choices now, 1)live sensibly and healthy hoping to retire early and healthy enough to live or 2)live recklessly until it's too late and find yourself eating catfood and living on the dole in some crappy assisted living home.

With such a short lifespan we're born looking down the barrel of deaths gun. God forbid you lose 5 or 10 years of it locked in a cage for violating some victimless prohibitionary law of man.

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Dear intrptr,

I know people claim the Bible is bunk. But I always kind of wondered about it's claims of 1000 year life spans of Adam and Noah.

Here is another one for you. People used to argue that it was impossible to have a virgin birth. It is now possible and done and I won't even bother getting into any detail about the cloning and gene splicing which allows us to create new beings. Peace.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
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I think giving everyone this drug would be the best practical joke ever.

I can see it now a morning like no other where the faithfull wake up for their first day of eternity. The priceless look i can only imagine for now. What a great and terrible day that would be.

Dear Wertdagf,

Why would you wish to deny anyone their choice just to make them miserable? I always tell people, be careful what you wish for.

So I can pay taxes for 300 years instead of 100? Sign me the F up.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Id jump at the chance for a longer if not infinite lifespan.

All this crap in parables about the benefit of dying, the burden and boredom of living forever, and the great chance to sleep and rest brought by your ultimate demise is bull.

There's no way in hell you could ever be bored or tired of live living to 500, 5000 or even on infinitely.

It's like there's a concerted effort in all manners of fiction to convince us that long life is not desirable.

There is too much to see, do and learn around every corner and I can honestly say I havent been bored a single day of my life. If I could live so long I'd quit my job, sell my house and go live. I'll worry about retirement and long-term care when I'm 4,000 years old. With lifespans as short as they are now you basically live to die. From your first taxable income you're saving to retire. You have two choices now, 1)live sensibly and healthy hoping to retire early and healthy enough to live or 2)live recklessly until it's too late and find yourself eating catfood and living on the dole in some crappy assisted living home.

With such a short lifespan we're born looking down the barrel of deaths gun. God forbid you lose 5 or 10 years of it locked in a cage for violating some victimless prohibitionary law of man.

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I couldn't agree more. A creative, adventurous person climbs the mountain and sees far away peaks upon peaks toward infinity. I usually become so depressed and disillusioned after reading the replies to such threads as these on the issue of longevity, that I cannot bring myself to comment. The replies are always so predictable - the overpopulation response or the "one lifetime is too much already" response from guys that are in the flush of their youth and vitality. To these guys I would suggest - refrain from compulsive masturbating to online porn - you are throwing away your life essence that if saved and had interest applied to it could transform your perception in unknown ways. Accumulating energy is either a burden, or as William Blake has said: "Energy is delight". No energy = no delight.

The question is: is it a good thing to prolong the human lifespan? So, how does one contemplate their answer? We look at our lives and assess them and then ask: Would it be a good thing to extend that reality? But what is the reality we are assessing? It is a reality that is defined by its particular state of longevity. The 3 score years and ten or whatever. Then, that 70 years becomes subject to an economic hierarchy of needs.

What actual percentage of this present lifespan represents an autonomous active youthful period where we are in possession of full faculties? 35 years? Perhaps even that is too generous a statement.

This lifespan does not represent what life is, it is rather only one possibility or expression, as was the time when living to 40 years old was considered the norm.

We see what we assume is reality but what we see is actually a reality which is the outcome of living life through the economy of a particular lifespan.

This narrow visor affects our attitude to every circumstance we encounter. Women especially are in a hurry to find a permanent mate and security before they turn 30 as they know the economy of physical attraction - when it is in its prime and when it begins to wane. There is a kind of urgency where one is forced to make the best choice of what is available before it is too late.

Orthodox religion also attracts the interest of those who feel time is running out swiftly as does atheism for the same reason.

If the longevity of the human body was extended to 300, 500 or 1000 years would we still hear that classic internet remark: "You have just wasted 5 minutes of my time, 5 minutes I will never get back!"?

Lack of an extended longevity is also responsible for overpopulation, rather than it would be the cause of it. People rush into reproductive relationships because they know instinctively that their body clock is running out of time and they need to replace it with their children. One could argue that people in developing countries have children due to the fact that there is no worthwhile form of social security. But in my mind I see poverty itself existing because of the psychology of the rich and powerful. They know they are fading fast no matter how much wealth and power they possess and that makes them mean and spiteful.

What we see around us today in the world is rapid acceleration - people have never been as death conscious as they are today - they think fast, drive fast and are in a hurry to earn money and spend it as quick as they can too. People are in a hurry to have as many experiences of pleasure too (before its too late) Hence the promiscuity and drug use.

This collective psychology creates a particular atmosphere around us which we interpret as being life.

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I would definitely like to live a long time, there are so many things to do and see in the world that there's no way I can do them all in this one lifetime unless I live at least 100+ years. Well, unless I strike it rich somehow.

I would try it, I suppose, after many years of successful use on humans. Of course, I'd need to find a way not to die any other way than old age... but it would be a nice boost, I guess.

Other options: become a vampire, become Ray Kurzweil, put myself into cryogenic stasis with strict instructions not to revive me until technology has figured out how to defeat aging.