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Santorum tells Iowans: ‘I don’t want to make black people’s lives better’
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reply to post by TheOneElectric
How could somebody NOT have met a black person? That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen here. We are in the 21st century, not the 19th.
How could somebody NOT have met a black person? That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever seen here. We are in the 21st century, not the 19th.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by Ben81
We are not talking about Ron Paul now are we. Are you going to ignore what I have said this whole conversation?
My Point was done from the start
Santorum = Racist
i do understand your but Santorum couldnt care less
how come he didnt say that in a more general view
not only concerning the black people
he did sound a little bit racist
dont ya think ?
reply to post by xuenchen
I said the more coverage he gets the faster he would implode!! Nice he needs to be gone. Why is it always that black people are poor and on welfare. Why do these guys need to even bring race into it. It is mindboggling that they cant just say " Idont want to help poor people by giving them someone elses money, I want to empower poor people to make their own way in life" or something to that effect. Its the same as Newt saying we should give the inner city kids jobs by cleaning the school bathrooms. and they dont haver to grow up being pimps or drugdealers .
I said the more coverage he gets the faster he would implode!! Nice he needs to be gone. Why is it always that black people are poor and on welfare. Why do these guys need to even bring race into it. It is mindboggling that they cant just say " Idont want to help poor people by giving them someone elses money, I want to empower poor people to make their own way in life" or something to that effect. Its the same as Newt saying we should give the inner city kids jobs by cleaning the school bathrooms. and they dont haver to grow up being pimps or drugdealers .
edit on 3-1-2012 by sd211212
because: (no reason given)
reply to post by xuenchen
I understand what he is saying, and i get it, RP has this mentality too.
But really Santorum?
You aren't smart enough to know that that is a dumb statement to make?!
I understand what he is saying, and i get it, RP has this mentality too.
But really Santorum?
You aren't smart enough to know that that is a dumb statement to make?!
Here is a youtube of the "statements"
The controversey starts at 2:00
The reporter also says (near the end) that 84% of Iowa food stamp recipients are white, 9% black.
Boinggggggggggg!
The controversey starts at 2:00
The reporter also says (near the end) that 84% of Iowa food stamp recipients are white, 9% black.
Boinggggggggggg!
edit on Jan-03-2012 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)
reply to post by FOXMULDER147
It's still very racist but I see that some will deny that on here.
And before you ask why, did Santorum stop to think that perhaps there are also caucasians, latinos and plenty of others that use the welfare system?
Also, have you seen this guy's family? They look like they're still stuck in the 19th century. I would not be surprised if Santorum holds even more backward views of this country.
It's still very racist but I see that some will deny that on here.
And before you ask why, did Santorum stop to think that perhaps there are also caucasians, latinos and plenty of others that use the welfare system?
Also, have you seen this guy's family? They look like they're still stuck in the 19th century. I would not be surprised if Santorum holds even more backward views of this country.
reply to post by xuenchen
Who's lives would he make better?
these elections are some good Jerry Springer type entertainment.
Who's lives would he make better?
these elections are some good Jerry Springer type entertainment.
WOW!
People, really???....watch the video. The guy slipped up. He didn't plan on saying "black people"; he slipped. Look at the video......then try to pull that context crap if you want. He slipped and told us what he really thinks. Racist statement all the way. There are more whites on welfare thus more whites will suffer if it's taken away. Yeah, whites make up more of the population, but that's irrevelant to the number of people who will be affected.
96% of Iowans are white and this panders to them, clear as day. Deny ignorance, people.
Don't let people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton's race card fever cloud your reasoning to this level of denial. Just because there are some opportunist out there doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist anymore.
WOW!
People, really???....watch the video. The guy slipped up. He didn't plan on saying "black people"; he slipped. Look at the video......then try to pull that context crap if you want. He slipped and told us what he really thinks. Racist statement all the way. There are more whites on welfare thus more whites will suffer if it's taken away. Yeah, whites make up more of the population, but that's irrevelant to the number of people who will be affected.
96% of Iowans are white and this panders to them, clear as day. Deny ignorance, people.
Don't let people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton's race card fever cloud your reasoning to this level of denial. Just because there are some opportunist out there doesn't mean that racism doesn't exist anymore.
WOW!
out of context . . really guys. .
I don't know who likes him, but if this is ok, then don't complain when it happens to Paul.
I don't know who likes him, but if this is ok, then don't complain when it happens to Paul.
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33
Here we go with the "race card" crap.
So, it's ok for Santorum to say this stuff but if Ron Paul were to say it? Wouldn't people be all over him?
Besides, I come from a predominantly white state and white people make up the majority of welfare cases.
Here we go with the "race card" crap.
So, it's ok for Santorum to say this stuff but if Ron Paul were to say it? Wouldn't people be all over him?
Besides, I come from a predominantly white state and white people make up the majority of welfare cases.
reply to post by The Sword
Sword, if you read my post carefully, you'll see we are on the same side.
Lawd have mercy
To your defense: After I saw this thread I had to sit down and have a couple cups of sake to chill. As a result, I probably didn't make myself very clear, so I forgive you and I'm even going to make you my friend cause I dig some of your old threads. I was in NO way defending Santorum...that's for the record.
Sword, if you read my post carefully, you'll see we are on the same side.
Lawd have mercy
To your defense: After I saw this thread I had to sit down and have a couple cups of sake to chill. As a result, I probably didn't make myself very clear, so I forgive you and I'm even going to make you my friend cause I dig some of your old threads. I was in NO way defending Santorum...that's for the record.
edit on 3-1-2012 by intelligenthoodlum33 because: sake
reply to post by groingrinder
The longer this goes on the more facts come out. Why this is racist which is obvious is that he singled out blacks to make a comment about welfare and jobs. This is not out of context this is what came out of his own mouth. Add to it the fact that he took his dead infant home to let the other children be with it . This man is another addition to the long line of nut jobs the so called Republicans have rolled out. The Democrats are a bunch of criminal bosses and the Republicans are a group of total nut jobs. What has happened to America? The answer should be quite plain to see. How to fix it should be plain to see as well. The crime bosses should all be arrested and nut jobs should all be committed. This country needs some common sense leadership. It shouldn't be that hard to find.
The longer this goes on the more facts come out. Why this is racist which is obvious is that he singled out blacks to make a comment about welfare and jobs. This is not out of context this is what came out of his own mouth. Add to it the fact that he took his dead infant home to let the other children be with it . This man is another addition to the long line of nut jobs the so called Republicans have rolled out. The Democrats are a bunch of criminal bosses and the Republicans are a group of total nut jobs. What has happened to America? The answer should be quite plain to see. How to fix it should be plain to see as well. The crime bosses should all be arrested and nut jobs should all be committed. This country needs some common sense leadership. It shouldn't be that hard to find.
Originally posted by redrose123
Add to it the fact that he took his dead infant home to let the other children be with it . .
:shk: SO WHAT? Jeeeze people ....
His family has the RIGHT to mourn the loss of an infant child any way they want. He wanted his children to know that they had a REAL sibling and that the child wasn't just a lump of tissue that died off. They mourned in a way that had been done for centuries .. all through pioneer-era America. People had wakes in their home and 'sat up at night' with the deceased in the home. (that's how the name 'wake' came about ... staying AWAKE all night to be with the family member who passed away).
Most anyone who has had a family member die will tell you that survivors are encouraged to spend some time with the deceased BEFORE calling in the funeral home to take the deceased away. Most anyone who has had to use hospice at home will tell you .. they encourage you to spend a little while with the person before calling someone to take the body away.
If you people want to complain about Santorum, then complain about what his policy towards Iran would be. But the lack of TOLERANCE for the way a man wishes to mourn his dead child ... that's pretty low.
reply to post by FOXMULDER147
You see... I see this as fair game. Other candidates had their words twisted, and partially omitted to make them seem like they've said something horrible when they didn't.
ah, Jan 3rd 2012... LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
You see... I see this as fair game. Other candidates had their words twisted, and partially omitted to make them seem like they've said something horrible when they didn't.
ah, Jan 3rd 2012... LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
My jaw was on the table as I read this thread and saw that people don't see the racism in this statement... and say it's being taken out of context.
Play the whole speech and you'll see context doesn't really matter here.
But that's how racism is. Sneaky. A racist doesn't realize that they're racist.
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33
Completely agree! But I think he said it on purpose.
I think he said this just before the Iowa Caucus and with it, sent a message his target audience will deem as "not racist, just the truth", A message saying... "I'm just like you, Iowa... I don't really like the black folks much, either, what with them takin' our money and all...", without ever saying those words.
The message will serve its purpose. That's my prediction, anyway. I think the evangelical vote will put him over the top in Iowa.
What is this country in for?
reply to post by FlyersFan
Agreed.
But that's how racism is. Sneaky. A racist doesn't realize that they're racist.
reply to post by intelligenthoodlum33
Completely agree! But I think he said it on purpose.
I think he said this just before the Iowa Caucus and with it, sent a message his target audience will deem as "not racist, just the truth", A message saying... "I'm just like you, Iowa... I don't really like the black folks much, either, what with them takin' our money and all...", without ever saying those words.
The message will serve its purpose. That's my prediction, anyway. I think the evangelical vote will put him over the top in Iowa.
What is this country in for?
reply to post by FlyersFan
Agreed.
edit on 1/3/2012 by Benevolent Heretic because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
I don't like the guy, but to be fair...
‘I don’t want to make black people’s lives better’
is not the same as
‘I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them other people's money' (what he actually said)
yeah you could pick and choose some things out of there to make it more to the OP's liking
‘I don’t make black people
or
‘I don’t want black people
I'm not one of those people who screams racism at every opportunity , but that's a pretty stupid comment even in context. I took it as him saying
if I'm elected I won't take white people's money and give it to blacks. He really had no reason to single out any particular group of people.
Pretty stupid on his part.
reply to post by FOXMULDER147
That's exactly what he meant.
Let's not try to make something out of something that wasnt said. They are getting beat up by the others well enough.
That's exactly what he meant.
Let's not try to make something out of something that wasnt said. They are getting beat up by the others well enough.
Just get EVERYONE on welfare to WORK for the money, and it would be a better place.
Some will achieve new skills that make them more employable, others will feel a sense of pride & fulfillment.
There are so many neglected areas and lack of funds to beautify them, that this would be a win win for all
Some will achieve new skills that make them more employable, others will feel a sense of pride & fulfillment.
There are so many neglected areas and lack of funds to beautify them, that this would be a win win for all
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
I hear you, brother. Today's climate is ripe for racism. TV has turned the word into a cliche and now no matter how overt and in your face it is others will refuse to see it. Or maybe they just refuse to acknowledge it. Divide and conquer; dems vs. repubs, middle-class vs. the poor, etc.
I think we are going to see a lot more candidates pandering to the baser side of americans in the future.
I hear you, brother. Today's climate is ripe for racism. TV has turned the word into a cliche and now no matter how overt and in your face it is others will refuse to see it. Or maybe they just refuse to acknowledge it. Divide and conquer; dems vs. repubs, middle-class vs. the poor, etc.
I think we are going to see a lot more candidates pandering to the baser side of americans in the future.