The Turkish UFO back on broad daylight?

Originally posted by CaptainBeno
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Oh, sorry, I thought we were talking about this video are we not?

Haven't had time to troll through the 432'00000000 video's this guy has posted on youtube.

I am simply stating THIS video is of an aircraft.

Full stop. Aircraft.

But you see, if this is an aircraft then that taints his claim of being a contactee.
So this ALONG with his other videos all go together.

He's making a tremendous claim. He's saying he's had a 12 year relationship with these Beings.

So it's a domino effect. This particular video effects the other 431 videos which then effects what he's saying.

Originally posted by CaptainBeno

Just an Aircraft on Final, Flaps and Gear Down....Humid day? Nuff Said.

Probably a Foker 100 Rear engined A/C

Absolutely agreed. Thank you for posting that pic [the one from page 6], because it makes it quite clear: it's an aircraft, slightly nose up (consistent with slow speed / high angle-of-attack flight), plus two dark areas hanging down for the main gear, plus the black horizontal line as the shadow/underside of the fully (or nearly fully) extended flaps.

Your pic should end the discussion of this vid... but will it? ;-)

I think some UFO's are real, but good lord, this ain't it....

reply to post by tarifa37


The Kumburgaz UFO looks absoloutely nothing like the lit up deck of a cruise ship, let alone the one provided. Also the part where the UFO "shifts" into seemingly another shape/ lighting configuration is not present in the video provided. It's hardly "100% debunked".

reply to post by Human_Alien

But you see, if this is an aircraft then that taints his claim of being a contactee.

It's an Aircraft...............So that should answer you question.

Plus, no proof at all of being a "Contactee" apart from 430 vids placed on youtube. You would think after maybe just Mmmmm 100 sightings that you go and purchase a ripper camera hey? But no, we still have the same old blobs. Having not watched all the videos are there any that do anything spectacular? Like move around at unbelievable speeds or perhaps do the "old" 90 degree turns or even perhaps come into view/focus and actually look like it's trying to make contact with him? No....didn't think so.....shame.

I just wish someone would film one of these things close up or even have the balls to get in the old car and go drive towards one...........It's funny, they seem so shy


Anyone got any close encounters of the third kind type video on youtube.....surely anyone? you? The world?

I am a believer........just not in this........it's an aircraft..........rant over

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Originally posted by Perhaps

Originally posted by 0bserver1
reply to post by Perhaps

 

Good assumption , but did it pass turkey on this time frame shown in the video is the question?

Again, my first reply post was just a thought - nonetheless, I'll soon find out if it has any credibility or not.

There's data from Jan' 1, 2012 - Istanbul.... the times are consistant with the video's time stamp, yet to find any historical info' though to match the vid's date.

Peace

Too bad the video was taken on the 28th of December, and your image says it will be vissable on January 1st. So everyone can rule out the ISS. Thank you.

real

I do not think it is CGI. The out-of-focus view is where you see the dome, but when the object is in focus, it is a very bright light source and you can see the AGC action of the CCD as the black outline on the image.
You can tell that when the dome is visible, the sign and window frame in the foreground are in focus, but when the object shows as the bright light with AGC CCD artifacts, the window frame and sign are out of focus.

The dome effect is probably artifact caused by the lens and aperture, as in with most bright objects that are recorded out-of-focus. So , the in focus view really shows no detail other than a real bright light source. I suppose it could be landing lights on an approaching aircraft, and that would probably make sense because the object seems to be decending from altitude.

Still, undefined A pretty cool video, and again, does not seem to be CGI.

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by CaptainBeno
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Oh, sorry, I thought we were talking about this video are we not?

Haven't had time to troll through the 432'00000000 video's this guy has posted on youtube.

I am simply stating THIS video is of an aircraft.

Full stop. Aircraft.

But you see, if this is an aircraft then that taints his claim of being a contactee.
So this ALONG with his other videos all go together.

He's making a tremendous claim. He's saying he's had a 12 year relationship with these Beings.

So it's a domino effect. This particular video effects the other 431 videos which then effects what he's saying.

I understand what you're saying in defense of this fellow.
Keep in mind though, could just be one of those 'special' people, as I mentioned before, like the fellow, and other sorts that pops up here on ATS and other places claiming to have found vast deposits of gold and uranium on Google Earth.
Presented with the prevalence of internet chaff, it's an easy thing to descriminate down to the lowest common denominator, as opposed to looking at each case from an even objective viewpoint.
In this case, the man has 430-something videos of ambiguous dots and blobs of light hanging around in the sky, not really doing anything particularly amazing or UFOy other than just being there as some vauge unidentified point of light.
The man could very well live close to an airport, but, because he's the special sort, he's convinced all these lights are UFOs.
As said, they don't really do anything UFOy.
They're just lights, some with what might be hints of shapes to them if you squint while he's zoomed in.
The lights behave more like planes.

Thus, for now, we see videos of lights that behave more like conventional aircraft, from a guy that's stacked up 430-something videos of lights that behave like conventional aircraft, though he claims to be in contact with alien beings.

Back to Meir; at least he (claims) got his alien UFOs to come closer, bob around, and 'pose' for still shots.

As it stands, I'm leaning heavily on the doubting Thomas side of the validity and credibility of this video and the videographer's claims.

I think it's a conventional aircraft, and on viewing some of the other videos, I think most all of his videos are conventional aircraft. It's a light, and it behaves like conventional aircraft, doing nothing UFOy.

I want to believe, as the saying goes, but, I've been watching the sky since the 70s, and have yet to see anything that could be classified as a UFO.
Extraordinary claims require more than less-than-extraordinary video.

I vote we pin this guy on the watch list, and check in on his videos from time to time to see if there's been any improvement.
I vote someone contact him and point him to a video equipment rental place, or help him find a good deal on used equipment online better than he's got.

I can see, on this one piece of the film, how you might see a plane flying 'away' and to the right.

I get that.

But that is this one piece, this one slice of a lengthy film.

A Purpleish blob does not an airplane landing make, nor does its movement.

Is it landing in the water?

Did you actually watch the entire thing?

Away and to the right is the Ocean.

Suicidal Airline Pilots?

reply to post by jimnuggits


Um, this slice of film is consistant with an aircraft being set up for a long final "on approach" flaps down, gear down, landing light on.......I would imagian the airport is over the horizon somewhere to his right?

its a ballon you idiots.
so do you really think that an intergalactic spaceship is going to travel all the way here just to bobble around in our atmosphere like a retarded jellyfish??????

reply to post by lonewolf10


Anyone who has been to an old school darkroom for photography can tell you that when you take a Coke can into the darkroom, the letters disappear.

Depending on the filter, some things are usually invisible to the naked eye.

Perhaps these ships are not from another planet, they are just invisible to our filters.

An environmental change, however slight may change the filter... Or the dimensions are getting blurred together.

There is more to the world than you are capable of seeing.

reply to post by Unknown Soldier


It takes a lot of twists and turns and a lot of imagination to say that the objects depicted on the 2009 videos are yachts. I really can´t say why there´s people around here stating that it has been debunked.
Your post was a good reminder.

reply to post by 0bserver1

Is it just me or has anyone else notice that the vehicle in the film changes from a disc to almost square with black on the top and bottom - just like a lot of other videos with the object and camera moving a lot because of the distance and focus changes. But of course they are all GCI or CGI or CIG whatever most debunkers have settled in their minds. It is getting almost comical - (it's a floating ship / no it's the actual ships bridge and the only lights lit up are on that bridge, and on and on).

It is amazing that we humans can send another human to the electric chair on our say so of verbal statements and eye witness accounts in court of law but when it comes to UFO's we are all miss lead by our vision / our account of what happened / our cameras / our creditable witnesses / our actual photos and videos - nope - it's a ship in the back ground, and a floating ship at that LOL. ATS has had some very good videos and eye witnesses, and I for one am a skeptic first. But for God sake - the debunkers are making up more unbelievable crap than the UFO postings themselves.Try to make up this stuff in a court of law. This is not an attack by no means, but please - unless you are film / video / digital expert - save the matching shapes / lights / near airport locations / ball of lightning theory / ball of gas theory / bird theory to a "MAYBE". You could be wrong too you know.

I for one say this video is very good and looks like it would be hard to fake - after looking at thousand of them. I am not saying it is impossible to fake, but is unlikely at this point. It has authentic written all over it - but then again it may be a round plane with no wings, it could be someones tire that flew off their car - or better yet - someones diner on a plate thrown out the window and is still floating long enough to film. Nope - it is still that darn floating ship LOL.

Great video as far as I am concern.

reply to post by Human_Alien

So another words, when the time doesn't agree to it being Venus, then it's a plane. Is that it? So we get to make up excuses JUST to debunk a video?

When the Venus explanation wears thin they will claim it is swamp gas ... wait for it!

Originally posted by Morg234
reply to post by tarifa37

 

The Kumburgaz UFO looks absoloutely nothing like the lit up deck of a cruise ship, let alone the one provided. Also the part where the UFO "shifts" into seemingly another shape/ lighting configuration is not present in the video provided. It's hardly "100% debunked".

Sure it does, it also looks like the edge of a wrist watch and a lot of other things but not a UFO. It is probably the most idiotic series of videos ever recorded.

reply to post by Dukesy



Sorry, are we talking about the same video? The one at the start of the thread yeah? I hope so, as let's look at the evidence.

1. Coastal Turkish Holiday hotspot
2. Aircraft on approach "Long Final"
3. Aircraft set up for landing...Flaps down, gear down, slightly high nose attitude.
4. Aircraft may have been poilished aliminium "high gloss" reflects sunlight......distorts crap camera vision.
5. Turkey is hot and humid.
6. Aircraft passing through hot humid air creates pressure difference...hence sunlit glow around aircraft
7. Airport has got to be near..........it's a tourist destination.
8. Foker 100 aircraft commonly used in this area of the world.
TADARRRRRRRR!!!!!!

IT'S AN AIRCRAFT!!!!!!!!!!

WOW, and 430 other aircraft as well!!

However, the original turkish video of the UFO with Alien looking occupants..........Yep that looks real.

Ok, for all the "smart people" that keep insisting that it is "very difficult" to edit and manipulate VHS footage, allow me to break it down for you.


ANY footage that is loaded onto a computer (Which obviously this was to get it on youtube) can be manipulated just as easy as digital footage. As a matter of fact, because VHS IS already low quality, that makes it that much EASIER to manipulate the footage and make it seem legitimate. Due to the fact that the low quality of VHS makes everything pixelated already, it makes it that much more difficult to see areas where animations have been pasted in and blended around the edges to make it seem more realistic.

This is the crappiest footage I've ever seen in my life. How anyone can believe this is legitimate is beyond me. Especially the part when the "craft" is turning into a tiny pixel box and back into a "craft" Get real people, I'm a believer and I want to see a saucer as much as the next guy, but this is just crap.

Don't be so open minded that all your brains fall out.