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With the flu season ramping up, many are looking to vaccination as a "preventive" approach. Those who abstain are often accused of being uneducated, or worse, socially irresponsible. Nothing could be further from the truth.
As it presently stands, it is not sound medical science, but primarily economic and political motivation which generates the immense pressure behind mass participation in the annual ritual of flu vaccination.
It is a heavily guarded secret within the medical establishment (especially within the corridors of the CDC) that the Cochrane Database Review, which is the gold standard within the evidence-based medical model for assessing the effectiveness of common medical interventions, does not lend unequivocal scientific support to the belief and/or propaganda that flu vaccines are safe and effective.
To the contrary, these authoritative reviews reveal there is a conspicuous absence of conclusive evidence as to the effectiveness of influenza vaccines in children under 2, healthy adults, the elderly, and healthcare workers who care for the elderly.
In the absence of such evidence, we are left with two possibilities. One is that flu vaccine is in fact highly beneficial, or at least helpful. Solid evidence to that effect would encourage more citizens—and particularly more health professionals—to get their shots and prevent the flu’s spread. As it stands, more than 50 percent of health-care workers say they do not intend to get vaccinated for swine flu and don’t routinely get their shots for seasonal flu, in part because many of them doubt the vaccines’ efficacy. The other possibility, of course, is that we’re relying heavily on vaccines and antivirals that simply don’t work, or don’t work as well as we believe. And as a result, we may be neglecting other, proven measures that could minimize the death rate during pandemics.
Originally posted by predator0187
I have a couple family members that choose to get the vaccines on a regular basis even though I try and tell them otherwise. They just continue to tell me their doctor told them and until I get my MD, my opinion is just that, and opinion.
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by predator0187
My thoughts? Flu vaccines are worthless (and I'd need to look into it much more before going solid on this, but I think most others might be as well - I believe evidence shows that most serious diseases we have vaccines for were already significantly declining prior to vaccine introduction as a result of sanitation, health, and various other improvements in society):
Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by predator0187
My thoughts? Flu vaccines are worthless (and I'd need to look into it much more before going solid on this, but I think most others might be as well - I believe evidence shows that most serious diseases we have vaccines for were already significantly declining prior to vaccine introduction as a result of sanitation, health, and various other improvements in society):
Three letters is enough to refute this argument: Hib. Ninety-nine percent decrease in incidence since the vaccine was introduced in the 1980s. Unless you can think of some other factor that changed ..in US society and nearly wiped out the disease, it was the vaccine.
Here's another one: chickenpox. Ninety percent decrease in incidence since the vaccine was introduced in the 1990s. What "improvements in society" have taken place since the 1990s?
Acute hep B has declined sixty-seven percent since we started universal infant vaccination in 1991. The decline among Americans aged 0-19 years was 89%. Again, other than the vaccination, what has changed since 1991 that can account for this decrease--other than the vaccination program?
Measles is very rare in groups that vaccinate, but there are outbreaks when people stop vaccinating. This happens even in first world countries with top-of-the-line sanitation, nutrition, and public health systems. The only variable is vaccination status.
Flu vaccines work, too. Usually. Influenza mutates rapidly, but if the vaccine is a good match for the circulating strain, it will prevent or reduce the severity of influenza. Even in first world countries with generally good sanitation and health.
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by nobodysavedme
This is why I love NaturalNews. They take a study, twist what it says (or outright lie, in this case) and then publish certain parts of it in big, scary letters.
(...)
In the latest study of 173 patients, 28 per cent of those treated with Herceptin were found to have experienced a "cardiac event" after a follow-up at 32 months.
The majority of these patients experienced the problems while being treated with Herceptin alone, after prior combined Herceptin and chemotherapy treatment.
The other 18 were being treated with a combination of Herceptin and chemotherapy. There was one cardiac-related death.
The study, published in the Journal of Clinical Oncology, found that when patients stopped using Herceptin and were treated with heart drugs such as beta-blockers, their heart function improved.
After repairing the damage, patients were then able to resume Herceptin treatment.
Dr Francisco Esteva, of the University of Texas, said: "The drug substantially prolongs survival, and while we found substantial cardiac toxicity, we also discovered that this side effect can be successfully treated, which was not clearly known before this study.
"If the cardiac side effects of Herceptin treatment can be managed, the drug is safe to use."
(...)
Abstract
HER2 gene amplification occurs in approximately 20% of primary breast cancers and is associated with a poor prognosis. Recently, trastuzumab, a humanized murine monoclonal antibody directed against the extracellular domain of HER2, was introduced for the treatment of patients with HER2-overexpressing advanced breast cancer. Trastuzumab has activity as both a single agent and in combination with chemotherapy. However, trastuzumab in conjunction with anthracyclines produces an unacceptably high rate of cardiac toxicity, which has prompted the search for alternative regimens. Docetaxel and the platinum salts are logical candidates to be combined with trastuzumab since these agents exhibit potent synergy with the antibody in preclinical experiments. Furthermore, the available phase II clinical data using the TCH (docetaxel/platinum/trastuzumab) regimen suggest this combination has significant activity. The Breast Cancer International Research Group (BCIRG) 006 trial is a 3-arm adjuvant study comparing doxorubicin/cyclophosphamide followed by docetaxel, the same regimen with trastuzumab administered with docetaxel (TH), and TCH in 3150 women with nodepositive or high-risk node-negative, HER2-positive breast cancer. BCIRG 007 compares TH and TCH as firstline therapy in patients with HER2-positive metastatic breast cancer. In both trials, entry is restricted to patients whose tumors are positive for HER2 gene amplification as determined by fluorescence in situ hybridization. The data from these trials, in addition to the results from other ongoing randomized studies, will help define the optimal way to utilize trastuzumab in the management of patients with HER2-positive breast cancer.
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by newcovenant
The article you posted provides no evidence for their figures. The only link they provide (to a tabloid, the Daily Mail) links to an article on shipbuilding costs, not Herceptin.
Please carefully examine your sources before posting them. Anyone can post anything on the internet and claim it is true. Only those with verifiable sources should be trusted.
Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
reply to post by newcovenant
The article you posted provides no evidence for their figures. The only link they provide (to a tabloid, the Daily Mail) links to an article on shipbuilding costs, not Herceptin.
Please carefully examine your sources before posting them. Anyone can post anything on the internet and claim it is true. Only those with verifiable sources should be trusted.
The symptoms of human influenza were clearly described by Hippocrates roughly 2,400 years ago...
almost the entire indigenous population of the Antilles was killed by an epidemic resembling influenza that broke out in 1493, after the arrival of Christopher Columbus...
an outbreak in 1580, which began in Russia and spread to Europe via Africa. In Rome, over 8,000 people were killed, and several Spanish cities were almost wiped out...
The most famous and lethal outbreak was the 1918 flu pandemic (Spanish flu pandemic) (type A influenza, H1N1 subtype), which lasted from 1918 to 1919. It is not known exactly how many it killed, but estimates range from 20 to 100 million people.en.wikipedia.org...
...though most of these probably were immunized too late and so died of H1N1 and not the immunization shot to protect from it. Whatever the number, who have died after the vaccine, it is thousands and not millions or hundreds of millions.
Thousands of Americans died from H1N1 even after receiving vaccine shots...www.naturalnews.com...