Huge UFO Pyramid Incoming!

Originally posted by jerryznv

But...I also have not dismissed that this might indeed be a crystal (of sorts) floating in front of the recording device for whatever reason and for a length of time...so in short I would like to know more about the purpose hypothosis of Venus and the refraction of light that it supposedly caused to the recording device!

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Oh man...... and you were doing so well up to the 'crystal' part

Crystals?
Really? Now you sound like a NASA spokes-person doing damage control for the STS-75 tether event.

It's bad enough they put crystals out in space (for our complete confusion and amusement) but crystals next to the Sun? Is that even remotely possible?

reply to post by miniatus

I see no object .. do you?

No... and certainly nothing close enough to the object or artifact that we see in the OP's videos.

I understand the concept just fine...but an explanation of what I see in the videos...IMO is yet forthcoming!

I don't see anything close in the images you provided...or the link...so I am lost on this one!

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by jerryznv

But...I also have not dismissed that this might indeed be a crystal (of sorts) floating in front of the recording device for whatever reason and for a length of time...so in short I would like to know more about the purpose hypothosis of Venus and the refraction of light that it supposedly caused to the recording device!

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Oh man...... and you were doing so well up to the 'crystal' part

Crystals?
Really? Now you sound like a NASA spokes-person doing damage control for the STS-75 tether event.

It's bad enough they put crystals out in space (for our complete confusion and amusement) but crystals next to the Sun? Is that even remotely possible?

Well I wasn't talking about next to the sun...more like next to the recording device...closer to the lens.

Maybe you could share what you know of the geology of space minerals that I might have overlooked?

I was simply saying that it could of been a crystal ( crystal like ) mineral next to the lens of the device recording the videos!

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In the embossed link I sent you can see the "triangle" on the far right just above center .. you have to look for it .. the other link is the same general time from another camera of the same region.. you see nothing of the sort in it in the same area.. this is the same triangle in the ops post ( same set of images used to make the video )

Given that this anomaly was present over 4 days, you would expect it to be generally in the same area in the span of a minute or so .. the fact nothing is visible in that second image just confirms that there's no physical object there and that we must be seeing some kind of light artifact .. the only difference is the second image is a different camera.. same area, same time..

reply to post by Human_Alien


Crystals don't have to be ice you know.

Something near the lens could appear much larger than it really is.

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@miniatus:

I see no object .. do you? ... I really believe we're dealing with internal reflections, light artifacts .. I think the links above make it pretty conclusive in my opinion.. we can see the same region within a minute or two with no object floating around.. what do you think?

I see don't see anything either.

Light artifact seems to be the more probable explanation.

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by StringTh
But ultimately Venus was his suspect and I have to say that I rather go with your version than the Venus explanation.
StringTh

I think Phage's idea and mine are complimentary to one another, it sounded to me that he was suggesting that Venus was the source of the light.. so light reflecting from Venus results in the flare effect on the right which in an embossed image would make a lens flare appear to have a physical shape when it's not actually a physical object at all ..

Only difference is I'm not suggesting the light generating the anomaly is Venus, I can't be sure of that.. I'm awaiting further images from Phage because I personally don't know all of the resources for obtaining this imagery.

Now please bear with me as I break this down to the kindergarten level I'm most comfortable with but......


(Sun)


Venus Triangle

(camera)



The Sun is in the background
The STEREO-Behind is in the foreground (for argument sake) and away.

How can Venus's light hit the triangle and the camera be able to pick it up?

I'm not understanding the physics there.
(And I'm probably not describing it the best either which isn't helping)

reply to post by Human_Alien


Anything artificial is in trouble that close to the sun. Also why would anything artificial be so damned huge.

How are you Human ?

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In the two images I presented, keep in mind we're dealing with two different cameras just pointing at the same region so you won't necessarily see the same light reflections/artifacts off the camera barrel ..

With that said, the key important fact here is that you don't see a triangle object in the second image despite the fact it's looking at the same thing at approximately the same time.. this means that it isn't a physical object.

It really has to be internal reflections, and if that's the case you won't see a 1:1 lined up reflection per say ..in the first link I provided ( that talkes about this phenomena ) you can see a venus flare appear in the upper right of the image .. not venus------------>flare ..

Ultimately all I'm really saying here is that there's obviously not an object there and that the lens / internal reflection idea seems to clearly be at play.

Originally posted by miniatus
reply to post by jerryznv

 

In the embossed link I sent you can see the "triangle" on the far right just above center .. you have to look for it .. the other link is the same general time from another camera of the same region.. you see nothing of the sort in it in the same area.. this is the same triangle in the ops post ( same set of images used to make the video )

Given that this anomaly was present over 4 days, you would expect it to be generally in the same area in the span of a minute or so .. the fact nothing is visible in that second image just confirms that there's no physical object there and that we must be seeing some kind of light artifact .. the only difference is the second image is a different camera.. same area, same time..

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Okay...I see some characteristics of the same image...but I am still perplexed by the tumbling act it does!

Honestly I have no idea...I am curious too...just waiting on something that I can bend my mind around...and I haven't see it yet.

No offense...just waiting on more!

Originally posted by Chamberf=6

Crystals don't have to be ice you know.

Ah see?...I was thinking ice. Thank you for opening up my mind a bit more. Just hope my brains don't fall out now.
But really, thank you!

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I think angles come into play .. the camera barrel shape also comes into play.. if it's rounded then light will reflect differently as it moves, this would absolutely account for rotations and changes in the "triangle" in my opinion.

I'm not as knowledgeable as some, but I really strongly feel that this explains it .. I wish Mr. Phage would come in and provide his input on what I put forth .. he isn't God but he knows more than I do on this topic =)

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by Human_Alien
Oh My Gawd. Are you telling me that Richard C Hoagland might've been correct with his tetrahedral UFO that was supposed to be Elenin??????

What are we looking at? Is that supposed to be the Sun in the background???

Is he even aware of this? I bet he'll be on C2C this week if he's privy to this.

This YouTuber is an ass. And he should team up and tour with Hoagland!!!

I just got prematurely excited when I heard the first video but now that the excitement is over, this guy (who I think is Dutchsince) is a jerk.

How can we, humble mortal humans, sit in front of our computer screens and determine whether or not we emphatically see a 'space craft' next to the Sun? I mean where do we get the room to be that pompous? We don't even know what we're looking at in the sheer depths of our oceans so who the hell are we to 'know' what we're seeing millions of miles away?

Listen, I know intelligent life exists (maybe not here on Earth but certainly out there) and I also know we're being visited. But to take that and make the giant leap to 'space craft heading our way' is unthinkable.

I used to be embarrassed to be an American. Now I'm almost equally as embarrassed to be a Human!

This guy and this thread belong in the hoax bin (no reflection on you OP :up

No. Wait. As a matter of fact, I vote ATS make a new bin labeled "If you believe this garbage then there's a bridge you might be interested in" and let these thread reside over there for a while.

Ugh!!!

pot, kettle and black spring to mind here.
how can you say this when your guilty of this yourself???

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Anything artificial is in trouble that close to the sun. Also why would anything artificial be so damned huge.

How are you Human ?

Hey buddy!!! Great to see you

You're right. I wasn't even thinking that out.
How can anything: planet, asteroid, comet or even another star survive the enormous heat? I have trouble figuring out how Mercury does it.

As it's obviously not a physical object (transparency, inconsistency), whether it's lens flare, reflection, or some other light effect is kind of irrelevant.

It's not a "Huge UFO Pyramid Incoming!"

reply to post by FOXMULDER147

It's not a "Huge UFO Pyramid Incoming!"

I think the context of the title of this thread was lost long ago.

We are working on an explanation at this point in the thread!

Originally posted by SecretKnowledge

pot, kettle and black spring to mind here.
how can you say this when your guilty of this yourself???

I beg your pardon. I'm guilty of WHAT? Making threads of the same caliber? If so, you're right. But I have never ever EVER claimed to know something 'paranormal' emphatically to the point of labeling it.. Not anything UFO-related. Never. It's not my style.

You show me ONE post or one thread I've written where I say "look at that space craft"

I've called many things/sightings UFOs but that is entirely different.

And I make guesses. I do that ALL the time. But that is NOT what this Tuber did. He is saying it's a space craft. That's a statement. Not a guess.


So.....go ahead. If you're going to call me out, please have your ammunition handy so I can counter attack you.
So show me where I've done exactly what I am accusing.

Go on. I'll be here. Waiting.

Originally posted by jerryznv
reply to post by FOXMULDER147

 

It's not a "Huge UFO Pyramid Incoming!"

I think the context of the title of this thread was lost long ago.

We are working on an explanation at this point in the thread!

My main goal was either to a) prove an object was there or b) prove an object wasn't there.

In that, I think I've succeeded in definitively proving there's no object there ( to my personal satisfaction at least ) .. I still think internal light reflection explains the images we've seen .. but for that portion of it I'll defer to others .. =) I've enjoyed following this thread but I've spent too much of my night on it =) lol

It's been fun, thanks everyone who contributed!

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by jerryznv
reply to post by FOXMULDER147

 

It's not a "Huge UFO Pyramid Incoming!"

I think the context of the title of this thread was lost long ago.

We are working on an explanation at this point in the thread!

My main goal was either to a) prove an object was there or b) prove an object wasn't there.

In that, I think I've succeeded in definitively proving there's no object there ( to my personal satisfaction at least ) .. I still think internal light reflection explains the images we've seen .. but for that portion of it I'll defer to others .. =) I've enjoyed following this thread but I've spent too much of my night on it =) lol

It's been fun, thanks everyone who contributed!

I agree...too much time and look where we are at.

I think it's time to move on too!

I'll agree though...interesting thread...I'll check it out later!

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Guys - no need for the fighting, it will only result in getting this thread shut down.. the mods already warned once.