Civil Contingencies Bill

The bill which has been called "The UK Patriot Act". (I know this has been covered) So why is it bad? according to Lord Lucas, speaking in the House of Lords during the July 5th second reading, came to the point:
"Are we opening up our system to the equivalent of what happened in Germany in 1933, where it became possible for an extreme party legitimately to hijack a democracy and turn it into something totalitarian? . . . They (the Government) appear to want a role of issuing diktats." He concluded by calling for amendments to the Bill which would safeguard our rights, "or we are signing our death warrant as a democracy".

Well here is the bill www.publications.parliament.uk...

The bill basicly gives the government the power to declare a State of Emergency on any ground, i.e insignificant events (e.g. �damage to buildings, homes,etc�); �threatened� insignificant events (e.g. threatened disruption of a supply of money), even a �situation� would do the trick, and a situation occurring outside the United Kingdom would also do. In other words, anything could pull are country into a police state.

The Bill will be receiving a Committee stage review in the Lords, starting on 15th September. The Government wants it to become law this year, but it must first be passed by both Houses of Parliament.. The UK could be on the path which will take us to a totalitarian state.

Summary of the bill

www.statewatch.org...

Most of the FREE world become like this.

The best thing is how this very situation was written in countless books 20+ years ago and they seem to be coming true.

Infinate, I have read your posts and I gathered you do not believe a NWO exsists? or was it illuminati? anyway does this news ring alarm bells in your ears??

[edit on 10-9-2004 by 7th_Chakra]

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
Infinate, I have read your posts and I gathered you do not believe a NWO exsists? or was it illuminati? anyway does this news ring alarm bells in your ears??

As i always say i do not believe in the exsistence of the illuminati and if a new world order does come to pass, it will take stage in a peaceful manner.

Sorry Infinite I did not see you thread before.

Now one more though, does anybody notice how similar Blair and bush are running their respective courtiers?

Originally posted by marg6043
Sorry Infinite I did not see you thread before.

Now one more though, does anybody notice how similar Blair and bush are running their respective courtiers?

Yes,
it seems that Blair does exactly what Bush those.
We already bills that deal with this, i dont see why we need a new one

I guess Blair see the convenient of such a bill and the ramifications of it and also how it can be misused, so I guess it will be an asset to his government and the power it will yield.

Originally posted by infinite

Originally posted by 7th_Chakra
Infinate, I have read your posts and I gathered you do not believe a NWO exsists? or was it illuminati? anyway does this news ring alarm bells in your ears??

As i always say i do not believe in the exsistence of the illuminati and if a new world order does come to pass, it will take stage in a peaceful manner.

Nice job Misinformer^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Notice how apparently he's an EXPERT? ... Yeh sure

[edit on 11/9/04 by dnero6911]

Wether there is an illuminati or not, there is a CFR, Skull and Bones, a Tri-Lateral commission and the lot.

I believe that the NWO, or as I like to call it, the one world government, will come into power through the United Nations. I also believe that it will come about as the result of a manufactured global emergency, such as a nuclear exchange, or massive conflict in the middle east.

Neither of those proposals are too far fetched, sonsidering the flashpoints that are currently in place.

Add to that the 10's of thousands of UN troops here in the US, the existence of concentrration camps and rail cars, and the TACMAR's on the majority of our road signs, it could happen quickly. Peacfull in the sense that we have quietly been handing over our sovereignty to the UN for over 20 years.

Remember, the bulk of the UN leaders are quoted for their belief that the idea and existence of nationalsim is obsolete, and needs to die.

George Orwell was right. He was only wrong in his speculation of when.

The Spider

dnero6911.
wheres the illuminait then eh?
with the little green on mars or with the greys

but anyways, this thread is about the Civil Contingencies Bill, not the illuminati. Can we get back to the subject please...

That bill is a very bad idea, it would take the minutest of instances for the Government to immediately remove all of your civil liberties. The police would become packed with thugs who would do anything to keep their new found power over the sheeple and you would never be able to remove that burden until you entered into a state of open revolution.


**Asassinate all Iluminati and NWO persons! Save our world!**

its basicly a police state in the making,
Darnn... i hope this bill doesnt get passed though anything could trigger the event of the UK becoming a police state.

Originally posted by marg6043
does anybody notice how similar Blair and bush are running their respective courtiers?

Oh, I know. They've been butt buddies for a long time. Whatever Bush says, Blair agrees with him. In fact, when Michael C. Ruppert spoke at San Francisco's prestigious Commonwealth Club of California www.fromthewilderness.com... he named the three countries involved in 9/11.

1. U.S.
2. Britain
3. Israel

So it makes sense that Bliar and Bush have agreed on almost everything and why the UK is getting another version of our Patriot Act.

Would it be paranoid or prudent to think that this has been sneaked in through the back door, while MPs and lobby groups squabble about the fox hunting ban, taking media attention away from the whole thing?

In WW2 did Britain crank down on its citizens like this? No, it armed them with Tommy Guns.

If Britons swallow this they're as dumb as Americans, and that's pretty sad.

This bill had a fiurther reading in the house of Lords yesterday (Wed. 15th Sept.), which just so happened to be the day that there was massive coverage of civil disorder as a result of the proposed anti-hunting bill in the UK.

Cynics amongst us will note the fortunate timing for the government of this disorder as it effectively buried all other news of the day!!!!!!


Following quotes taken from Christopher Booker, The Sunday Telegraph, 5/9/4 -

Only in Part Two, after 13 pages, does the truly extraordinary nature of this legislation suddenly explode off the page, as Section 21 sets out the powers it will give to a tiny group of ministers and "regional co-ordinators" in the event of an emergency being declared.

The conditions for this could hardly be more loosely or widely defined, including anything from a terrorist incident to flooding, a chemical spill or a recurrence of foot and mouth.

In any such instance, senior ministers (including whips) will be given virtually unlimited powers to do anything they think fit, virtually without parliamentary control. They will be empowered to "disapply" any law or act of Parliament they choose, simply by issuing regulations.

They will be permitted to order any person or body to go anywhere, or to "perform any function"; to forbid any travel or movement; to order the requisition, confiscation or destruction of any property (with or without compensation); and to prohibit any assemblies of persons, however small.[\quote]


Following quote taken from The Freedom Association

This bill enables the Government to declare a State of Emergency on trivial or "threatened" events (e.g. an oil slick, threatened "damage to property", threatened "destruction of plant life", threatened "disruption of a supply of money"). Neither the Second World War nor IRA terrorism brought about such draconian legislation.[\quote]


This final quote was taken from the Statewatch website -

Tony Bunyan, Statewatch editor, comments:

"The draft Bill would have allowed the imposition of an authoritarian state. The new Bill is only better in that it paves the road to an authoritarian state. The government is really naive if it thinks people will not read the fine print of the new Bill and realise that it has preserved nearly all the powers it originally proposed - albeit in a different form - and added new contentious provisions which were not in the first draft".[\quote]

Thread

Originally posted by KhieuSamphan
This bill had a fiurther reading in the house of Lords yesterday (Wed. 15th Sept.), which just so happened to be the day that there was massive coverage of civil disorder as a result of the proposed anti-hunting bill in the UK.

Cynics amongst us will note the fortunate timing for the government of this disorder as it effectively buried all other news of the day!!!!!!

Things are not looking good,
Wonder when this will be passed (you can see how certain i am that this bill will become law)

Oh yes, this bill will become law. I have read some of the text and it is vague in areas to say the least. Unfortunately, the vast majority of people in the UK are not aware of it and of those that do know, quite a few that I have spoken to don't realise the POTENTIAL implications.