Assault weapons ban expiring.

Is it possible to purchase an unregistered weapon, legally? Is it easy if legal? illegal?
How useful do people think an assault weapon would be? Would the average person do about as well with a rifile or a pistol?
Don't assault rifles/guns use a lot of ammunition?
What kind of price ranges are we talking here?

"Yeah man, blow the suckers away!" (joke)

Should i be looking for something more powerful? say a grenade launcher?

muttering, "now where in the 'H' did i put those old ballistic missiles."
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Originally posted by slank
Is it possible to purchase an unregistered weapon, legally? Is it easy if legal? illegal?

depends on your state. There is no federal law against a non-FFL holder selling another non-FFL holder a gun without any documentation being kept. I can sell you an AK-47 at a garage sale, and there is no record of it, and in some states, like here in Louisiana, there is no registration required of any weapons, so no government agency would know you have it.

How useful do people think an assault weapon would be? Would the average person do about as well with a rifile or a pistol?

all depends on the application. for home defence where you have children and are close other homes, not very good, buy a pistol. For shooting hogs and coyote on your country property or defending your home against looters after the SHTF, they work great. For killing the ninja-suit wearing agents of a tyranical official, those who stood their ground against Reno's jack-booted thugs found that AK's didnt shoot through body armor that well. For that sort of thing, I would take the next step up and purchase a weapon that shoots .308 or 30-06, such as the m-14 or an old m-1. You can get steel core ammo for those rounds that will penetrate amazing depths.

Don't assault rifles/guns use a lot of ammunition?

only if you pull the trigger fast.

What kind of price ranges are we talking here?

$250 for an AK, $500 for an m-1, $1000 for an m-14

I sure hope i don't have to go head to head with the US government. I suppose you never know, though.

I thought with an automatic weapon you pulled the trigger and held it back and it sprayed bullets, like a machine gun. Is that incorrect?

I guess if you buy a gun in an unregistered manner and are not well informed and know what you are buying it does leave you somewhat at the mercy of the seller.
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Originally posted by cavscout

What kind of price ranges are we talking here?

$250 for an AK, $500 for an m-1, $1000 for an m-14

$250 for a AK I paid alot more for mine almost double for my Siaga. Please tell me where you can get them for that price. Im assuming its not a Russian made version I found they cost more then their Chinese or other versions.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX

Originally posted by cavscout

What kind of price ranges are we talking here?

$250 for an AK, $500 for an m-1, $1000 for an m-14

$250 for a AK I paid alot more for mine almost double for my Siaga. Please tell me where you can get them for that price. Im assuming its not a Russian made version I found they cost more then their Chinese or other versions.

If you got a Siaga, you got screwed. Yes, it is one way to get a new AK style weapon, but an AK without a pistol grip? kinda silly, IMO. You can get a "new" Romainian AK that accepts hi-cap, double-stack mags for $250 if you keep your eyes open, and $300-$325 are more common prices. I have not heard any bad reports about the quality of these weapons. About all you can say bad about them is "well, its still not a Russian." If you just want the AK look and feel without the 30 round mags, you can get one that will not accept hi-cap mags for less than $200, but I would not recomend it, no one is ever happy with these after they get them, unless it was your intent to just hang it on the wall or give it to a child as a starter weapon.


P.S. Price depends alot on where you live. If you are in CA, for instance, you will usually pay more than here in LA, due to many factors. I am confidant the prices I listed are sorta the lowest you are likely to encounter in the several states without sacraficing quality, or finding that once-in-a lifetime oportunity.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by cavscout]

Originally posted by slank
I sure hope i don't have to go head to head with the US government. I suppose you never know, though.

You never when you will go up against bad guys with body armor. I know I personaly would never break into someones house without a level 4 flack jacket, unless I was in a state or city that gauranteed that my victim would be unarmed, like CA, or New York City (not that I would ever break into someones house, you know what I meant.)

I thought with an automatic weapon you pulled the trigger and held it back and it sprayed bullets, like a machine gun. Is that incorrect?

This has nothing to do with the AWB, as it only concerned the owners of semi-automatic weapons, meaning one round leaves the weapon for every one trigger pull. If you tell me you have $7000 to drop on a full auto, I will take the time answere your questions about them.

I guess if you buy a gun in an unregistered manner and are not well informed and know what you are buying it does leave you somewhat at the mercy of the seller.
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usually not a huge problem, kinda like buying a used car. You have no friends that can help you? Ask the seller if he can take you somewhere to fire the weapon and demonstrate it functions properly. Needless to say, you are going somewhere out of the way with an armed person you probably dont know. Bring your own vehicle, tell people where you are going and what you are doing, and bring a gun yourself if you can. Mabey a freind with a gun too. Not to sound paranoid, but I dont want my advise to be responsible for getting you shot or robbed. Good luck.

Well, it's done and over now. I guess we can expect mass homocides and rioting in the streets, and maybe nuclear armageddon. The Brady campaing is already putting out news releases about how much more violent criminals are now that they don't have to follow this silly law (note - I wish the best for the police officer, but this has nothing to do with the AWB, the weapon in question appears to be semi-auto and was avaliable before the ban expired).

Washington, DC � The ban ends at midnight, but already there are signs of what may follow for America's police officers. In Dade County Sunday, a police officer was attacked by an AK-47-wielding assailant. She was shot at least twice, and her police cruiser was left in flames. The gunman reportedly fired some two dozen times.

Sarah Brady, chair of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence united with the Million Mom March, called on President Bush to engage on the issue and urge Congress to renew the ban "before police are forced to deal with these extreme weapons of war on a regular basis.

"Our thoughts and prayers go out to the police officer in Miami," Mrs. Brady said. "And our wishes for safety are with all the law enforcement officers in America who work every day to keep our neighborhoods safe. They don't need to face these weapons."

Press reports indicate the Miami-Dade officer was wounded in the shoulder and the forehead. Her cruiser was hit repeatedly by assault weapon fire.

The ban ends at midnight.

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Originally posted by cavscout

Originally posted by ShadowXIX

Originally posted by cavscout

What kind of price ranges are we talking here?

$250 for an AK, $500 for an m-1, $1000 for an m-14

$250 for a AK I paid alot more for mine almost double for my Siaga. Please tell me where you can get them for that price. Im assuming its not a Russian made version I found they cost more then their Chinese or other versions.

If you got a Siaga, you got screwed. Yes, it is one way to get a new AK style weapon, but an AK without a pistol grip? kinda silly, IMO. You can get a "new" Romainian AK that accepts hi-cap, double-stack mags for $250 if you keep your eyes open, and $300-$325 are more common prices.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by cavscout]

I got a pre-ban Siaga pistol grip and everything no dragunov style stock. I also own a Romainian AK a a Romax But I woulds say the Russian AK is made much better.