What would you do if you found out you were one of them?

I would ask for my own country, then i would build my power and overthrow the others in the top so i can be emperor of the world!

I need a good place to build my palace, maybe Costa Rica.

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i would gather evidence to expose them and their agendas
solid proof

Originally posted by sweetnlow
LOL, 90% of the 32 degree masons are below middle class and are blue collar workers with little or no money, even 33rds, for i have both within my family and have been around masons and Shriners my entire life.

Now if you were part of a compartmentalized Association within the echelon of the Cult or one of your family members were, i would say, nothing, other than keep your mouth shut and pay attention, for you might learn a thing or 2 and benefit by that association

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GOOD ADVICE yes lol

Originally posted by maryhinge
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i would gather evidence to expose them and their agendas
solid proof

No... you wouldn't

To the OP:

Your first problem in finding out if you are one of 'them' is identifying who 'they' are. You can't just lump Royals, Masons, Reptilians and other assorted groups into one pot and call them the PTB because those that run the world are a very small group.

Also most people forget that it was Masons/Rosicrucians that created this land of the free as a place to escape the control of the bankers, etc. And how do people repay that? They make the founders out to be evil.

Now me if I was one of 'them' I might make me a crown, get a private army and have vassals do my bidding... That would be fun...

Oh wait... already did that

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Demand my due wealth, of course! I think I am I did historical research on my surname and came up related to Spanish royalty, I think though, that my Italian forefathers have denied their relation to the Spanish (out of some sort of misplaced pride, lol, which makes no sense, I mean what's better than being related to royalty?)

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Never discount anything, even the wild stuff.

Mainstream scientists now are admitting to "other dimensions" Which Icke talked about over 20 years ago.

Kaku talks not only about other dimensions but multiverses.

How many quantum physics books have you read?

I'm talking the simple beginner 101 stuff.............would blow your mind.

Now, when mainstream scientists start confirming some of the stuff Icke has been saying for years, one should take note because mainstream scientists have to be very very careful on what they admit to the public as they could lose their funding and or even their life.

What do they know about that they won't or can't talk about?

Open your eyes, simply look at the amount of symbols around you on buildings, paintings, sculptures, even the Bible and other Holy Books, that show a human fascination with reptilian figures going all the way back to the very beginning of man's known "history".

Now if there are multiverses and multiple dimensions, logically speaking are all the citizens of these various different places going to look like you and I?

A closed mind and proud heart gathers no knowledge. - Ofhumandescent.

And sometimes fact is stranger than fiction.

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We are all royalty.

None better or more entitled than the other.

Again many childish, sarcastic, witty and selfish replies.

ATS is going down hill.

The dumbing down of not only America but the planet as a whole.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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We are all royalty.

None better or more entitled than the other.

I agree, but I could really use the money to get out from this whole I am in, I don't care about power or prestige, I'd just like a little room to breathe after being in poverty all of my adult life. Either way, it is true those from those lines will always and do always end up making money, my father did rise up again into the ranks, and I will most probably get my due when he dies,

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
None better or more entitled than the other.

Maybe

But our system would fall apart if everyone wore the Crown and there were no minions to do the dirty work

Originally posted by Grifter42
Hypothetically speaking of course, what would you do if you found out that you were related to one of the powers that be? That you were part reptilian, related to some 32nd degree Mason (I am. My great grandfather was one), or part deep one for that matter? I was reading "The Shadow over Innsmouth", when it came to the reveal about the fellow being related to the leader of the cult of ancient deep ones, and it got me thinking about what that sort of knowledge could do to a person, if it were suddenly revealed. Would one try to join up with them? Or would one reject everything about said group and do what they could to stop them? One man cannot stand against the allied forces of a thousand conglomerated entrenched bastards.

I would infiltrate and destroy.

You can't think of this?

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That is what TPTB would have you believe.

What if everyone did their fair share and everyone shared.

We could have paradise but so far we have chosen hell.

Originally posted by Grifter42
Hypothetically speaking of course, what would you do if you found out that you were related to one of the powers that be? That you were part reptilian, related to some 32nd degree Mason (I am. My great grandfather was one), or part deep one for that matter? I was reading "The Shadow over Innsmouth", when it came to the reveal about the fellow being related to the leader of the cult of ancient deep ones, and it got me thinking about what that sort of knowledge could do to a person, if it were suddenly revealed. Would one try to join up with them? Or would one reject everything about said group and do what they could to stop them? One man cannot stand against the allied forces of a thousand conglomerated entrenched bastards.

I'd embrace it in all honesty.

I mean, after years of having next to nothing through no fault of my own, I'd feel obliged to take what I could get from my newfound relations and try to use their resources to better myself and others.

Why fight and reject a potential multi billion fortune just because you don't agree with the actions of a few? That'd be like quitting your perfect job because the accountant is an asshole or something.

My uncle was a mason woopdidoooooooo


No big deal.....meant 0 to me

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
That is what TPTB would have you believe.

No it is truth. In my little Kingdom however we have those who chose to be vassals, in return for other considerations. It works out quite well. Some people do not want the responsibility of leadership.

What if everyone did their fair share and everyone shared.

That is a utopian dream. WHO would decide what the fair share is and who would decide who cleans the toilets? While your dream sounds nice, it would not be practical. Without traffic lights, do you really trust your fellow man to follow Order and take turns at a crossing? Take away the stop signs at an intersection, will people look and think and watch out for the other guy or will they just go for it because there is no control? It is the same thing.

You cannot have society all just ruling themselves. It cannot work. There have to be shepherds and flocks. Mankind has a long way to go before your concept could even begin to be accepted by a few

We could have paradise but so far we have chosen hell.

We have already been kicked out of Paradise... Mankind cannot handle paradise. The same drive that makes us want to learn and be the best we can be, is the same drive that pushes us to want to be on top. Just look at any sporting event for the truth of it. It is in our nature... since the first caveman clubbed his first woman... to the modern need to be #1 at all costs

Perhaps when we ascend to the next plane... but not on this level... not gonna happen... its not part of the Cosmic Plan

And here... in this very thread... is my proof

Originally posted by akalepos
I would infiltrate and destroy.
You can't think of this?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

Religion is just another tool of control. There ARE people on top. Whatever you want to call them, the 1%, the powers that be, the people behind the throne, the illuminati, grape koolaid, whatever it is you want to call it, religion is just another tool for pacifying the masses. That way, these bastards can skim off the top, bottom, and middle, and lie to your face that it'll all be made better for the working man in the next life. Wake up, there ain't gonna be a next life. I don't know if you've looked out the window lately, but does this world look like the result of a merciful God with a divine plan? If he planned the holocaust, he's an evil god of bloody sacrifice. If he didn't, then he's inept. If he planned this year, then he's got some very personal grudge against your humble narrator, taking it out in a very round about way. My grandma died of cancer, and my house burned down. Good plan. Merciful, loving God. It's a fable. A myth. Santa isn't real either.

Originally posted by Grifter42
I don't believe in the reptilians either. I was using it as an example. Never bought into the David Icke nonsense. Too much like a science fiction B-Movie type nonsense.

Whether you believe in them is irrelevant, they are real, and they live beneath your feet in deep underground bases. I actually wish it were just nonsense, and that David Icke was just another nut, but sometimes, the truth is stranger than fiction. I have known personally three people who saw Reptilians underground, in the coal mines of Kentucky. Do a little research, and enlighten yourself...or not, it is your choice, after all.

On the topic, my ex wife and Mother of my two adult children are direct descendants of the Hesse Royal Family of Germany.

You know, They Live is my favorite movie, I've read all of that hollow earth stuff, but the world as it is is just too easily explained by it being inhabited by greedy, evil old men than for me to need to bring reptilians into the mix. It's just a little unrealistic.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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That is what TPTB would have you believe.

What if everyone did their fair share and everyone shared.

We could have paradise but so far we have chosen hell.

There always has to be a leader. It's instinct.

Having every fair and equal sounds nice but in reality, a group without a leader is a clueless rabble, a mess that turns to in fighting to decide who should lead themselves.

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A true leader leads - does not rob, cheat, steal but leads with honor.

We at present are in need of real leadership.

Someone with honor that's soul cannot be bought.