Collecting rainwater now illegal in many states as Big Government claims ownership over our water

If this is the case, i wonder if people can sue for damages. water damage of all types including the mold that is caused by it, the car accidents, ect ect

seriously this world is f up.

reply to post by soficrow


No, I'm convinced its eugenics. They know we can get away from drinking their water that comes in PLASTIC
bottles or out of the pipes, if we turn to drinking sky water.

I'm going to home depot and get some visqueen. then after the next rain. I'll be selling Randys Real Rainwater
right out in front of my house. See what I can stir up.

So if the state owns the water, then they are responsible for it, right?
If you build a home with no roof and it rains, is the state not liable - by the same logic - for any water damage to your property?

Water is power is money.

We pay for water. They don't clean it very well, so we have to buy water or filtration systems to make it drinkable.
We pay for water twice.

Man, that's a great scam.

I bet they have "act of God" clauses in place too.

Either the rain damage is an act of God, or it's an act of the State's water. If the rain damage is an act of God, the water is a gift from God.
Unless the State has bought the rights from their God. Or their God has ordained that they should own the water.
Making sense yet?
Nope.
Thought not.

Ok it is hard to take these guys serious. This policy has nothing to do with downstream water rights. It has to do with money. The City or County will make money off each he washes by selling him "rain" water. Without a seperate water meter they will charge him for sanitary sewer and storm sewer charges for each ccf of water he uses. Hold your breath because air will soon be owned by the government. It will have to be regulatd because the guy down wind has rights to it.

Please people, support Ron Paul and send a big f you to the government.

Lets get him in.

Next thing you know they'll slap a tax on folks using solar panels for energy from the sun! this water business is nuts!

This is absolutely insane.. is this what the US does with this time while they are brainstorming for solutions?? It angers me so much to hear stories about the type of laws that are passed. A short message to the USA government; "Get real and actually make a change or else the people will make changes regarding you as a whole" What bill will they try to enforce next?? Charging you for every nail clipping that you cut and leave on the ground as a form of pollution?

reply to post by descendedstar


it's not a u.s. gov. issue, yet. it's state by state adn local ordinances.
like here in n.m. there is nothing on the books statewide, they tried but the bill went nowhere.
sants fe passed a law, but it's concerning construction and mostly looks. like a lot of other issues there.
covenants, basically, like when you buy a property in certain areas they'll hand you a book concerning what you can and can not do.
no livestock, certain sq. foot house, certain typr of fence etc.......
it's actually quite common.
i'd never buy a piece of land with restrictions, but many do.

I don't understand why people aren’t seeing this for what it is, and that its been around for a long time. Its actually for your protection to keep your water prices lower. Our water reserves are collected from rain and snow runoff that travels from mountains and higher altitudes to lower altitudes, with some of it seeping into the aquifers to provide for wells. If you allowed either a single entity or a group of people to begin hoarding that water, it cuts the supply and drives up the price of the remaining water. By having laws like this on the books they ensure that the prices of water remains reasonably low and the supply of water remains as high as possible.

Maybe this is just easier for me to understand because I live in Florida were we live under constant water restrictions when there is a lack of rainfall. In areas like Australia, of course they let you collect water because its a fairly flat dry area. Australia's water is lost if its not collected since water does not flow from mountains into rivers to feed large water supplies to the extent that it happens in other countries.

Let me give you an example:

If someone bought the Himalayan Gangotri Glacier and damned the melt waters, it would then starve out the Ganges River in India and cut off millions of people from their water supply.

So which is REALLY controlling the water? Making sure everyone was fair access to reasonably priced water, or allowing certain folks to hoard it and drive the price up for others?

I read the link and I'm curious about the study it cites, it says that only 3% of rainwater ends up in rivers? I don't know how they figured that out, when it rains where I am you can defo see the local rivers rise. Where does the rest of the water in a river come from? There's no glaciers around here.

Originally posted by PrecogPsychicSensitive
Whats next? paying for the oxygen we breathe?

Why not??? They already want / or do tax what we exhale CO2, why not get us coming and going.

The real question is how did we let officials like this get elected right under our very noses?

reply to post by defcon5


South Florida's lack of water storage leaves billions of gallons draining out to sea during drought

I think we screw up nature more when we try to control it with large scale projects that we don't fully comprehend the consequences of. We try to prevent floods or divert water to communities where there shouldn't be communities precisely because of the the lack or water or chance of floods. There shouldn't be sprawling cities in the southwest that have forced us to turn the Mighty Colorado River to a meager trickle. If you build on a flood plain without flood insurance, then that's your fault. As Ron Paul would say, Government can't prevent you from making stupid decisions.

I'm Lucky in Michigan, we have the water. Problem is that everyone else wants it shipped to them. Good luck with that.

They tried this in Bolivia or somewhere in that region and it ended with almost a civil war - it was of course some US corporation (surprise surprise) that had struck a deal with the government there that they owned the water including rainwater.

They then hiked the prices through the roof.

Make you proud to be part of the Human race.

Thank the stars I live in Tennessee. Not too many country-boys would take too kindly to some city politician telling them they can't use the rain that falls on their property...

I can only imagine the day when someone walks up and says, "Yo homie... I got that rainwater for the low-low..."

*Sigh...*

reply to post by predator0187


Does that include going outside andand opening your mouth for refreshment when its raining?

This reminds me of one of the positive things about living in my state! I mean yeah, protect water rights for farmers and towns depending on the flow of water from being dammed and Hoarded, but Rain? Even if Cloud seeding is being used, How much of that was seeded? Did you seed for 1/2" of rain and get 1"? Do you have a receipt for the rain water? Are natural showers Free-bees?
Posession is 9/10ths of the law. If it's on your roof or property it's your's.

I'v heard it, but it's absurd. In Hawaii, many people out in the bush capture water in barrels with tarps erected in such a way as to capture the rain...

I will convert my 2 car garage into a full aqua storage bin piped to the house if I want to. Like one poster said good luck government cronies trying to catch me. As to the stagnation issue that is why they build tanks with agitators in them. You should be able to store potable H2O in a sanitary tank with very little processing, it is OVER-PROCESSED because the air has so many particulates and pollutants in it from modern day industry, incomplete biological processing of medication(metabolites) and government.

My mother used to tell me back in her days how they were able to make FRESH ICE CREAM from the SNOW when she was a child..try that now-a-days if you dare! My city just hiked the price of our H2O due to "processing"...WTF? No wonder our water tastes like everything from chlorine(due to over chlorination to pharmaceuticals...everything EXCEPT CLEAN WATER!

People stay aware of your surroundings!...the hand has started to close into a clinched fist!

This is NOT a conspiracy issue or a "Take away your rights" issue (for all the R. Paul supporters out there, they aren't letting the commies steal your rights.) This is a situation where old, old laws in desert states assumed that if someone were to say, dam up a dry arroyo up stream of a farm, they could divert the next flash flood into another channel, lake or pond and call it their water, destroying the farms down stream. This is what a lot of old westerns are about, water rights. Railroads, townships, and corporate cattle companies made a practice out of diverting precious water down stream, forcing ranchers and farmers to go broke, sell their land to the big companies and move elsewhere. Even the movie "Chinatown" with Jack Nicholson, is about this situation, diverting of rain water to not so legal projects. If you are worried remember, people smoke and grow pot and have done for decades and few are arrested or prosecuted for small infractions. So if you are worried, go ahead and "Fight the man" by getting a raibn barrel. Caution. lf our skies are full of noxious or toxic chemtrails, the rain will be full of it. The rain also contains large amounts now of airborne pollutants, chemicals, and even bacteria and viruses. Drinking rainwater or bathing in it, without it being purified, is NOT advised.

There is no way this type of law could be enforced, will they arrest someone who accidentally leaves a coffee mug out in the rain? This type of over extension by the government will only bring more people over to the cause of liberty. It has also been an extremely rainy winter so this is one step away from the government claiming ownership of sunlight.