Iran warns oil blockade if sanctions imposed

reply to post by P12SOLD


Exactly, MAD seems to work pretty well. Just wish we as a species could grasp how stupid anybody having nukes is.

Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

are the Iranians High? we can wipe out their whole navy with one sub.

Yes, of course you can. Just like you wiped out the Viet Cong, the Sandinistas, the Somalis, the Iraqi resistance, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Oh, yes, and just like you wiped out the opposition when you helicoptered into Tehran on 24 April 1980 and rescued the hostages being held at the US Embassy there.

Some of you just never learn, do you?

Do you remember when the soviets went in to afghan and spent 25yrs there and lost? S
The war hasn't been lost against al Qaeda. The main objective was to take out the Taliban/al Qaeda government which was a success. The next objective was to train the ANA which is currently a work in progress. I'm not condoning the wars the Americans have started but the afghan war was a success. But we all know the real reason for that war.

Too many players here, though Russians have their own oil, China might have a disruption and act against the Nation causing it (US ISRAEL), but their economy is too dependent on our buying from them. Iran could drop a couple tankers and block the seaway, but that would benefit Saudi Arabia, and they could ship from two directions, one for sure free from attack and easily defended. Iran has no bargaining chips really. I think if it needed to be done (An Attack on Iran), it would covertly be accomplished by Israel, and swiftly with rockets and missiles. It would leave the US free from guilt on the world stage, though we would quickly come to Israel's aid and defense if anyone were to retaliate. It doesn't look good for Iran, they would only shoot themselves in the foot by sinking tankers, AND it would take quite a long time to clear the waters, if ever. Who would take the undertaking of cutting up and removing the hull and such, and not forgetting the oil spills and environmental impact upon themselves.

Iran needs to get a grip on their politico, and start a world friendly administration to grow in any meaningful way, or they will face stagnation and fall irreparably in world commerce. Beyond oil, what do they produce of any real need? Rugs? Dates? I'm at a loss at what might substitute them as a commodity for export. They will continue to be a modernized.... uh.... backwater country if they continue behaving as they are. We need to find a beneficial way to eliminate their threat, yet welcome them into the world community. That's all we have been trying to do all along. Well truthfully we have propped puppet leaders such as the Shaw, but had they played they all could have been wealthy. But as everyone says, and I agree.... screw Iran. The sentiment's not likely to change anytime soon. Of course, these are only opinions.

Originally posted by Foppezao

Iran warns oil blockade if sanctions imposed

dunyanews.tv

No oil will be permitted to pass through key oil Strait of Hormuz if West applies sanctions on Iran.
The warning came from Iranian Vice President Mohammad Reza Rahimi on Tuesday.
The threat was reported by the state news agency IRNA as Iran conducted navy wargames near the Strait of Hormuz, at the entrance of the oil-rich Gulf."If sanctions are adopted against Iranian oil, not a drop of oil will pass through the Strait of Hormuz," Rahimi was quoted as saying.



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I checked the size of the Iranian navy at Wikipedia. 2 words: That's it?

It won't take long to unclog the Strait of Hormuz if Iran tries something stupid.

The Ayatollah of Iran is a rash and dangerous person to wish harm upon others.

What had the fuss been all about anyway? It started with the nuke weaponization affair. A wise leader would have just open up the door and allow IAEA inspectors full freedom to inspect and ensure safety compliances if Iran truly only seeks nuke energy and not nuke bombs.

But that bast*rd Ayatollah had not done so, and had only ratched up the duplicities and rhetorics to what it is today. IT is a SELFISH BASTARDLY act by that one man to put the entire nation on peril.

Worse if he attempts to BLOCKADE INTERNATIONAL WATERS. He dont own the straits. World's humanity owns it and had for centuries unrestricted use of it for trade. By blocking the straits, he had DECLARED WAR ON HUMANITY!!!.

May our fellow human brothers and sisters in Iran - please stop him!

And if the were to sink a tanker or two, who financially could afford to salvage it? There are two immediate components here at work, the cost in a down world economy, and the volatility of the oil in dismembering the ships for removal. And it's a pretty closed environment to unleash that amount of ecology destroying toxins.

reply to post by michael1983l


Because we have reserves that nobody really has a count on (except the big dogs) That will be used, when all oil in the world is gone!

reply to post by Foppezao


Here ya go

www.usatoday.com...

Data released last week by the U.S. Energy Information Administration shows that the U.S. sent abroad 753.4 million barrels of gasoline, diesel and other oil-based fuels in the first nine months of 2011, while taking in only 689.4 million barrels.

And another just in case the previous source wasn't sufficient.

www.foxnews.com...

Originally posted by michael1983l

Originally posted by Firefly_
reply to post by camaro68ss

 

So you are basically saying they cant stand up for themselves? The west are trying to bully them and they are not having it. If the West want to play this game with them, they are saying they can play just as dirty. Or would you just be happy to let them bend over and get shafted up the arse?

As I said in another thread, this world is run by bullies for bullies.

Ok lets seperate out the West vs East, Christians Vs Muslims for a second and take a moment to think in pure and simple logic. Should a regime that is willing to have a woman stoned to death for Adultery be allowed to be in control of nuclear weapons?

What if this regime decides that Christianity is punishable by death, would you want them in charge of nuclear weapons?

I wouldn't

Should a regime that is willing to carry out capital punishment on innocent people in cases where there is no evidence to convict the person whatsoever, dictate the rest of the world, give nuclear weapons to israel, abuse every aspect of human rights, ignore its populations demands, sign bills to allow indefinite detention of its own citizens, ignore facts, and abuse international treaty's be allowed to be in control of nuclear weapons?

My answer: NO.

www.youtube.com...
www.amnestyusa.org...
www.huffingtonpost.com...
www.amnestyusa.org...


You say:

Ok lets seperate out the West vs East

and then mention the punishment for adultery... but then fail to realise that the west is no different from the east. they are just as bad as each other, besides different cultural backgrounds and laws, we all all the same.

Even so, the claim that the punishment for adultery is a valid excuse for a nation to give up all rights to self defense is insane. What about Troy Davis? An innocent man who was EXECUTED with no evidence whatsoever. If he had been white... maybe he would have been given a fair trial. what about the native americans? The ones who were tortured, killed, slaughtered, massacred. Should a nation with a history like that be allowed to be in control of nuclear weapons?

The double standards are everywhere.

Iran has every right to build a nuclear deterrent... to deter the terrorists of the Israel/US military. It is called self defence. But the point is, Iran doesn't even have a nuke, and is not pursuing a nuke.

reply to post by InsideYourMind


"Us gave Nukes to Israel"

Please provide sources. When you are unable to back up that claim, and try to twist words, to mean something other than what you originally typed (hate America speech) Will you correct yourself?

I think Iran wants this fight and I'm pretty sure they're going to get it....

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by Foppezao

Iran warns oil blockade if sanctions imposed

dunyanews.tv

No oil will be permitted to pass through key oil Strait of Hormuz if West applies sanctions on Iran.
The warning came from Iranian Vice President Mohammad Reza Rahimi on Tuesday.
The threat was reported by the state news agency IRNA as Iran conducted navy wargames near the Strait of Hormuz, at the entrance of the oil-rich Gulf."If sanctions are adopted against Iranian oil, not a drop of oil will pass through the Strait of Hormuz," Rahimi was quoted as saying.



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I checked the size of the Iranian navy at Wikipedia. 2 words: That's it?

It won't take long to unclog the Strait of Hormuz if Iran tries something stupid.

edit on 28-12-2011 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)

They don't need a Navy to disrupt traffic there. Their coastline allows them more than enough artillery or missiles to stop any vessel.

reply to post by InsideYourMind


Do you just type what ever comes to mind with ZERO clue to what your talking about?

Executed Troy Davis with no evidence?

Could it have been the 7 witnesses? OR how about Troy Davis CONFESSING??

During Davis's 1991 trial, seven witnesses testified they had seen Davis shoot MacPhail, and two others testified Davis had confessed the murder to them among 34 witnesses who testified for the prosecution, and six others for the defense, including Davis.

At least your kind make it easy.. If there was a bright one among ya, you might be listened to.

Originally posted by jhn7537
I think Iran wants this fight and I'm pretty sure they're going to get it....

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Yes, Iran can start a fight in the Strait of Hormuz.

Exactly, how many days could they shut down traffic in the Strait of Hormuz? 4 days?

2 weeks? When the short war is over, Irans navy will be 100% destroyed. Then what?

Originally posted by Bearack

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by Foppezao

Iran warns oil blockade if sanctions imposed

dunyanews.tv

No oil will be permitted to pass through key oil Strait of Hormuz if West applies sanctions on Iran.
The warning came from Iranian Vice President Mohammad Reza Rahimi on Tuesday.
The threat was reported by the state news agency IRNA as Iran conducted navy wargames near the Strait of Hormuz, at the entrance of the oil-rich Gulf."If sanctions are adopted against Iranian oil, not a drop of oil will pass through the Strait of Hormuz," Rahimi was quoted as saying.



"

(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.israelnationalnews.com
zaviews.blogspot.com

I checked the size of the Iranian navy at Wikipedia. 2 words: That's it?

It won't take long to unclog the Strait of Hormuz if Iran tries something stupid.

edit on 28-12-2011 by Eurisko2012 because: (no reason given)

They don't need a Navy to disrupt traffic there. Their coastline allows them more than enough artillery or missiles to stop any vessel.

Okay, destroy the Iranian navy. Then --- occupy --- Iranian coast near the Strait of Hormuz.

If the Iranians think 10 years ahead instead of 10 minutes ahead, they will see a losing
chess game.

CNN Headline from today

U.S. Navy won't tolerate 'disruption' through Strait of Hormuz

www.cnn.com...

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Originally posted by jhn7537
I think Iran wants this fight and I'm pretty sure they're going to get it....

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Yes, Iran can start a fight in the Strait of Hormuz.

Exactly, how many days could they shut down traffic in the Strait of Hormuz? 4 days?

2 weeks? When the short war is over, Irans navy will be 100% destroyed. Then what?

I think this image tells the story!




US 5th Fleet, mind you.

reply to post by Fitch303


Yeah, just like 100,000 US troops with all of their hi-tech drones and 10 years of war has defeated some rag tag sandal wearing Taliban carrying AK-47s right? It will be easy for Iran to mine and close down the Strait of Hormuz. US ships are sitting ducks in the gulf. You can take out a ship with one missile and Iran has thousands lining their coast, not to mention suicidal patrol boats which are very hard to stop. Once the US and Israel attack Iran, they won't be able to destroy Iran's facilities that are deep underground and this will cause Iran to actually speed up any nuclear ambitions. If we bomb their nuclear power plants, we are going to be responsible for radiation in the region. Iran hasn't done anything. The US has invaded two of their neighbors and has bases all around them. Iran is doing the only prudent thing they can. What would you do if you were them? If the US & Israel think the Muslim world and Russia & China are just going to sit back and watch another war the US is crazy. This will be WW3.

reply to post by Bearack


What most people don't understand is the relative size and capability of that triangle formation...

You do not want to look off your coast and see that ball team on the line... no way!

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
empty threat

the us EXPORTED more oil than it imported this year, and we get a lot more of it from canada, venezuela than we do the middle east

this would be wonderful, the average citizen might come to realize we don't need them

edit on 27-12-2011 by syrinx high priest because: (no reason given)

Na, access is not the problem as we don't get oil from them now. Many countries get their oil from that region, any blockade would cause a dramatic price spike. This would lead to very high gasoline prices for all American's. Since American infrastructure relies heavily on the automobile this could lead to societal breakdown.