Nobody "saw" any planes hit the twin towers.

No one saw any planes hitting the twin towers.
They all heard it from the radio or the television.
Radio or the tele = generated false info.

Really? Was any of you just happen to be staring blankly into the sky for a long moment and suddenly saw something flying into the building?

Alright lets say you were.

Its traveling at 500 mph crying out loud. Could you really actually make out that big blur of blob flying into the buildings and clearly identity it as a plane?

Yes I saw a big blur. But but what else could it be? Can't be a bird, its too big! The only other thing I can think of that flies around in the sky must be a plane! *Listens to the radio and tv* Oh see see! I knew it! They are saying that indeed it was a plane.

I bet you a million if the radio or tv said it was a missile or alien flying saucer or meteorite. EVERYONE today would say that i was a missile or alien flying saucer or meteorite.

Well what about the videos from the people below or or the news!!
You can clearly see a plane! Yeah a plane with missing wings in mid air. (That's another topic go do a search about the abnormalities of the so called live footages)

Gee then Star Wars must be all real. The Death Star must have really existed.

Guess what CGI isn't that hard to make. I'm sure the black government has money to make them.

Thats ridiculous. I understand what your trying to say, but that would only be 'possible' if one were directly underneath the planes path.

Plenty of people witnessed the planes crash.

Now, did 19 Muslims hi-jack the planes and fly them into the buildings?
My answer is NO.
Not for a second do I believe that.

Were planes crashed into the towers.
My answer is YES.
Pentagon?
Not sold on that one yet.

You might want to go look on Youtube, which has probably thousands of video's of eye witness testimonies to back up the fact planes hit the 2 towers.

Its traveling at 500 mph crying out loud. Could you really actually make out that big blur of blob flying into the buildings and clearly identity it as a plane?

It would only be to fast to see if you were standing a few feet away from it. The further you are away from a moving object the slower it seems. Thats why planes only seem to be moving very slowly when you see them in the air or at airports.

So MANY people would have seen the planes hit the towers without any problem at all.

Not much more to say to you....this dead horse has been beaten, re-animated and beaten again way too many times.

I love how you say nobody saw it and they could have faked the TV images and video's so we can't believe them then you reference those same videos as evidence that the planes had no wings.

And yes, I am pretty sure plenty of people were staring at the towers, especially after the first plane hit, and saw the second plane clearly coming from a distance and hit the second tower. It was a VERY witnessed event in NY. They may not have had as many see the first plane but the second one was watched by many on the ground and in the surrounding buildings.

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There are plenty of paid experts would argue this. And a mountain of paid shills and agents that would disagree.----------------

Give me a break. Planes hit the towers...

Just because YOU, yourself, didn't see something happen doesn't mean it didn't happen. You are not the center of the universe. There is reality and events that actually happen that you do not yourself witness and they are still real.

I think you're reading too much into it, I was there and I saw the planes hit the towers.

You would think after more than a decade that conspiracy theorists would have refined their arguments a bit. Ditched most of the dross and centered on a few core arguments which don't sound utterly ludicrous at first sight.

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be happening at all and lunacy reigns stronger than ever.

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You would have to be deaf not to hear a boeing less than a mile away.

I love it. This provoked very much though in my head. For that I give you kudos.

Consider this. In lower Manhattan the sky is barely visible from street level as looking up from a deep narrow canyon. Nobody would have been able to "see" anything like the iconic video images that have been burned into our collective memory. That mere fact raises many questions I have not considered.

Every major motion picture is shot out of sequence. It is only when the scenes have been set up for the viewer that the story is conveyed the way the producers wish it to be conveyed.

It always struck me as strange, from the perspective of a network news camera man, that somebody just happened to have their camera, on a tripod, with a long telephoto lens, turned on, framed up and focused to grab that shot. Think of how rare it is for somebody to get a perfect video of a UFO and you'll get an idea of how "lucky" that camera man was to have shot that footage. Bull crap!

Originally posted by MahmoudAhmadinejad
You might want to go look on Youtube, which has probably thousands of video's of eye witness testimonies to back up the fact planes hit the 2 towers.

Aluminum wings can't slice dozens of steel columns like a hot knife through butter.

Why they didn't use planes

Sometimes people ask me "why would they use missiles or whatever and run the risk of being caught out ? If they're going to sell a story about planes, why not make it as convincing as possible and use real planes" ?

It's a silly question, because in the face of direct visual and forensic proof that they didn't use planes (mostly supported by what little witness evidence we have), speculations about their thinking and planning are meaningless.

Nevertheless, since we live in extremely silly times, I'm going to address this question on its own terms.

Put yourself in the position of the perps. You have to think through what could go wrong in each possible scenario and then decide which scenario poses the smallest risk.

You want to sell a story about hijacked planes.

At the first level of decision making, you have two choices.

1) Actually use planes.

2) Use missiles or whatever the blobs 11 thing is, and convince people that they were planes.

Lets first look at the second scenario. You have the media on your side to tell the story. What could go wrong?

1) Witnesses might see that they were not planes and report it.

Well this has actually happened, but it seems that nobody takes any notice. The myth of "thousands of witnesses" to a big plane strike keeps getting trotted out on the basis of a circular assumption. "Because big jets were there, then people must have seen them - because people saw them, that proves they were there."

Clearly the perps thought about how to minimize the problem of contrary witness reports, and came up with a simple but effective plan.

This problem is easy to minimize. The first strike happens, and because the object is small and fast and unexpected, no-one is too sure what it is, or whether they saw it correctly. A few witness reports go to air reporting missiles or small planes or no craft at all, but there is only an 18 minute window for this to occur before the whole world sees a big jet live on TV - using commercially available real time animation technology. This distracts the media from interviewing many witnesses to the second strike, because everyone is fixated on the video replay. Those few witnesses who might get a moment with the media, then lack confidence in what they saw, because once again, the object was small, fast and unexpected. Seeing the TV replay - which was instantly available - would make most people think that they just didn't see it properly. The few who remain unshakable in their belief that it was not a large plane are easily shouted down and drowned out by the endless replays. In addition the airlines release a statement saying that they've lost two big jets and any witness dissent is *instantly* - the moment the second strike happens - marginalized almost to the point of oblivion.

www.911closeup.com...

Originally posted by KingMoloch
I think you're reading too much into it, I was there and I saw the planes hit the towers.

did you see the one that flew away?

The one that got away looks fake too. It seems to be moving too fast & vanishes really quickly. Sorry mate, not convinced.

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Agreed, it is no more convincing than the images of the second strike with the cgi jet layer intersecting the building layer.

Originally posted by septic

Originally posted by MahmoudAhmadinejad
You might want to go look on Youtube, which has probably thousands of video's of eye witness testimonies to back up the fact planes hit the 2 towers.

Aluminum wings can't slice dozens of steel columns like a hot knife through butter.

No - they smash through like aluminium wings smashing through steel rod - a completely different thing indeed - well spotted!

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Where the deuce are those wings!?

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