We should scour the moon for ancient traces of aliens, say scientists

Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by watchdog8110

 

That one is easy, just stop using Google for looking at the images.

It's good to find the places we are interested in, but after that you should look for the original (or as close to the original) images.

Cannot do all the work , just pointing out another additional direction to consider . My conclusion of other life was solidified awhile back . I,ll make you a deal though , you get me the originals and I'll spend the time picking out the anomalies ?

reply to post by watchdog8110


Sure, just give me a little time to look for them.

Something to consider, if there are indeed aliens on the moon do you think it likely that they would have moved, examined/interfered with the items we left there? We would have that I'm certain of.

Seems that they are just where we left them judging by the hi res images recently released. :-)

reply to post by tigercat1971


Perhaps their interest is in those that left them there in the first place , not the devices left behind . Their movement in very low gravity environment is better than a humans is . Now you see me , now you don't .

Posted 12-19-2011, on RC Groups blog of TexasThermalKing..........

What is in this Photo?

Discussion / Posted by TexasThermalKing / Dec 19, 2011 @ 07:58 AM / 927 Views / 4 Comments

The Moon is a facinating place, it's amazing what you can see when you learn how to look... really close... at the NASA photos as provided by The Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, Texas.

I've personally found 12 different items on the Moon...that need to be seen, you get to decide what they are, and who put them there. I hear your...disbelief, send me a PM and I'll tell you where, and how to see it for yourself.

Start with this one....it's been in my blog photos for almost 2 years since I found it ..... no one ask about it.

( Edit...note the link to the photo on RC groups can be viewed there on my blog.....I have also added BELOW
exactly how to find the Photo and Object.... Tower, Spacecraft, or whatever it is.)

That's Ok....It's hard to see and harder to believe...I know. Tell me then ...what is it?

There is a 0ne (1) mile or more, tall tower or structure in the Tsiolkovskiy Crater on the Moon's farside. The photo is from an astronauts handheld 35mm camera, taken out the window, from an altitude of 112 klm, which is about 70miles in altitude, which is over 364,000 feet. They took a very large number of photos of this one crater. This is why, most likely! If you can see on the magnified photo, the shadow on the ground and the sturcture, from that altitude, by that camera....it's HUGE! It's so big...we couldn't have shipped that much material, to the Moon, to have built it....I'm pretty sure. We put some things on the Moon....but they were small by comparision.

It's Ok, debunk it if you can. Tell me what it is, what you think. Don't say it's a film flaw...it's in other photos at the same spot....on different rolls of film.

Take the time to see it, before LPI censors it. Which is what they will do if we post it to the web ...in a big way. You can say you saw it here first anyway. You should save it, so you have it to look at when it's gone. Heck! have some fun knowing they missed blacking-out a few things they didn't want anyone to know. Hiding the truth just long enough, so they can be the first to make contact? Maybe. Who really knows? Tell me what it is... you decide.

PM me, I'll give you the procedure I used to find it and see it. You go to LPI's website, so you view it unaltered in anyway. It's easy and quick....I'll just point you in the right direction so you can see it for yourself. It's fun! Not Crazy.....just fun.! It's no gag....it's there.

Later, John

CLICK the PHOTO to ENLARGE IT!

Don't miss clicking on the my COMMENTS under this Photo that is on RC Groups. It explains a lot.

EDIT...for ATS here...today,

I have been advised I need to start another ....whole New thread ...about this object I found on the Moon.
I'm going to detail ...also...here.... How to find the photo I could not attach to this reply.

I am going to do the new thread under " What's is in this photo of the Moon? A tower, a spacecraft
or What?"

I will provide direct links to the photos site...as seen here....so it can be viewed directly...where I found it
unaltered in anyway, so you can see it for yourself.

I hope The Lunar and Planetary Institute in Houston, Texas doesn't take it down before all of you can see
it. I suggest you save the photo for your own viewing ....just ot have it....if they do remove it later.

HOW TO FIND THE PHOTO

Examine the photo at : www.lpi.usra.edu... using Google,
so you have GoogleZoom.

Load the JPG, you see at the bottom of AS17-157-23855 photo page, this is
the large high resolution photo file you need for best viewing. Using an old CRT
monitor, will give you even better viewing without pixilation, but the object can be
easily seen, either way.


Use the slide bars to move over and down to the bottom, and very right of the
photo.

Now (important) slide your cursor off the page, to an extreme edge, then move it
back. You will see a ...+...sign appear. Use it to ENLARGE any area you want.


Look along the rocky crater edge, you will see the darker smooth bottom
of the crater, meets, the bright white hilly edge of the crater wall.

Click the ....+....to enlarge this bottom corner area at this edge.
Use the slide bars again to stay in the bottom right area of this enlarged
photo section see the object (tower, spacecraft or whatever it is), and it's
shadow, along that edge of the crater's wall clearly standing.

Now, use the GoogleZoom under EDIT on the Google toolbar, to zoom in or out
to see it the best...You...can. This is just how I found it......why I was looking
at all...is a whole other story. We are just getting started....

(No you are not zoomed in so close this is NOT a pixilation distortion.)


You are still high above the Moons surface, this object is Huge!

This object is confirmed to exist in another photo of the Tsiolkovskiy Crater, it's not a film flaw is my point here. I'll give that to you also, on the new thread. It's more fun, the more you have to look at.

I really don't know what it is, you tell me what you think.....I'm off to start the separate thread I mentioned above.

Give some proper credit when you share it with whoever you like...


Thanks,

John



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Originally posted by Human_Alien
"Online volunteers could be set task of spotting alien technology, evidence of mining and rubbish heaps in moon images"

I've been told by a few credible sources that once 'we' find irrefutable artifacts on the Moon, 'they'll' have no other choice but to acknowledge intelligent extraterrestrial life. Although I wish we could find intelligent life here on Earth first ---this is still good news! I have absolutely no doubt that we have been and are currently being visited by extraterrestrial!
By the way, on Coast to Coast tonight, NASA Ken Johnston will talk about .

Hundreds of thousands of pictures of the moon will be examined for telltale signs that aliens once visited our cosmic neighbourhood if plans put forward by scientists go ahead.

Passing extraterrestrials might have left messages, scientific instruments, heaps of rubbish or evidence of mining on the dusty lunar surface that could be spotted by human telescopes and orbiting spacecraft.

Though the chances of finding the handiwork of long-gone aliens are exceptionally remote, scientists argue that a computerised search of lunar images, or a crowd-sourced analysis by amateur enthusiasts, would be cheap enough to justify given the importance of a potential discovery.

Prof Paul Davies and Robert Wagner at Arizona State University argue that images of the moon and other information collected by scientists for their research should be scoured for signs of alien intervention. The proposal aims to complement other hunts for alien life, such as the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (Seti), which draws on data from radiotelescopes to scour the heavens for messages beamed into space by alien civilisations.

more: www.guardian.co.uk...

I'm (Moonatic) new to this ATS forum,

I just realized....

That means I can't start a NEW THREAD till I have made 20 comments or more on the existing forum threads.
I understand the rules....that's Ok.

I will have to wait to get the New Thread...."What is in this photo of the Moon? A Tower, A Spacecraft, or What?"
up on this forum.

I wanted to included all the extra details I have. It's not right or as clear to do it here under this thread, of another, but related general topic. It needs it's own specific thread. I want comments made to be about that one object and the settings, background, and area it was found. Specific and clear ...not overlapping another object or area.
Generalizations...are not want we want ....we want to be specific and detailed.

I will do a different thread... when I can....on each and every item I have found on the Moon over the last three years. These are not fuzzy rocks, or dirt mounds. They are clearly and distinctly, not of natural origin ...even for the Moon.

I did see this thread...and read the many comments....I decided to share what I have....as soon as I can.


For the sceptics...bring your bag of scepticism...start with just the one I mention in my comments above.!!!

I did get the EDIT on my earlier post above, done just in time, so you could see "How to Find The Photo".

This will help you find what I discovered in this one photo....at LPI..and how to view it directly for yourself.

Have fun,

John

reply to post by Moonatic


Will be looking forward to your presentations in the future .

reply to post by Moonatic


Can't wait to see this. I hope you can bring the goods.

A lot of others promised they could and failed so hopefully you don't end up in the same position, but I won't hold my breath.

reply to post by Violence


I was looking for a reply from him to boost his post level , hmmm guess not interested .

Hello Violence, and WatchDog8110,

I'm back and forth tonite...I did read your comments just now. I was posting on another site
www.abovetopsecret.com... , where "1967sander" posted a video
about a photo from Apollo 11, where the sky in backgound shown it had been manipulated. I have a
similar photo that still shows...part...of what I think is the craft, that was sticking out from under the photo black card they used to hide it, when it was scanned to digital archive.

I'll get to show you soon I hope. Go get an old CRT monitor...it's fine grain and contrast will help you view it clearer than an LCD monitor. I do not know about the LED or HD stuff...I just got my big new Samsung flatscreen TV, and I hope to get it hooked tomorrow to the computer I have. I hope it helps me see all the things I have found even better. We will see.

I hope you go to the LPI site, as I posted in my EDIT of my first reply, above. Tell me what you think guys.

Later, John

reply to post by Moonatic


Get your post count up mate and make that thread!

16 more to go, won't take you long!

Originally posted by Pervius
They could start by releasing high resolution images of the moon to the public.


US/Russia/India/Japan/China all have taken high resolution images of the moon with their satellites....not 1 country has released high resolution images of the moon to the world.


The low resolution images Japan released were atrocious. You could take the same quality images with a $99 Kmart Telescope with a digital camera duct taped to it.

Typical statement from someone who doesen't have a clue!

You can see plenty of moon pics at 50cm/pixel and some at 25cm/pixel as for you $99 telescope statement lets see you prove that

reply to post by pascalt


So are the 50cm and 25cm per pixel pics not could enough as for your 2.5km tower

Same old BS just a DIFFERENT thread

They already did that
They already found alien traces
wonder why they never returned to the moon

National Hero and sixth man to walk on the Moon comes clean

THEY WERE WARNED NOT TO RETURN

Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?

Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known
there was a possibility, the fact is, we were
warned off! (by the Aliens). There was never any
question then of a space station or a moon city.

Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?

Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their
ships were far superior to ours both in size and
technology - Boy, were they big! and menacing!
No, there is no question of a space station.

Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and
couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a
quick scoop and back again.

Topic Closed

Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Originally posted by ArMaP

The original images from those areas have been available for as long as the images from the rest of the Moon.

The NASA elephant in the room no one appears to want to address is NASA's (severe lack of) credibility. Because NASA posts images, labels them that they are from XYZ camera on ABC date from FGH mission doesn't mean squat.

Consequently, any discussion about NASA images, especially on ATS where there is no one who could professionally review these images, assuming they are legit and I do not, is worth less than squat.

You dont seem to believe anything from either side why bother even being here I think you believe you own publicity to much

As for photographs shown here from NASA or any other source many members are long time amatuer , semi pro or even pro photographers, mainly in the sceptic camp but most of us would like to see some real evidence of what some claim on here if we find it we will BACK IT and if we have a reason to think its BS we explain why!

reply to post by Ben81


What BS how were the other missions a quick anything just

Talk about being gullible absolutely priceless!

reply to post by Ben81

They already did that
They already found alien traces
wonder why they never returned to the moon

Please provide a scan of page 6 of the New York Post so that we can see where Jim Courant tells the crazy story that has been circulating on the Internet without any documentation.

www.ufodigest.com...

reply to post by watchdog8110


Quite possibly, although I would have expected curiosity to have got the better of them. Don't forget we learn about previous civilisations by researching their artifacts.

reply to post by tigercat1971


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I agree, "tigercat1971" we don't know a lot about the ancient civilizations on Earth, but we do know they existed. There are traces of their existance.

I have said before, about NASA photos, that a photo is just a photo, with no other reference, comment, or explaination. There is a truth, that exists in an unaltered photo....we have to see it the same as we do, a dinasour bone in the ground.

Something happened when the light struck the film...it recorded it, and we see it.
You don't get an explaination with the bone, or the photo from NASA, just the fact that it existed.

There is a narrow range of photos....that you can look at from NASA...and trust to see what was there. The mapping photos,with their barrel distortion, then splicing, to form a mosaic of the lunar surface, with the gaps filled in with blurred edges.....just isn't the same as looking at a full, 35mm or 70mm single snapshot from an astronauts handheld camera. These snapshots don't come with an explaination...many are unlabeled.

You see this multiple string of snapshots...unlabled... in available Apollo 11 photos of the first lunar landing. What were they looking at during the.... first ....string of photos...of the very same lunar landscape...over and over ...the same perspective...out the very same, left window of the lander? The answer is in the sky and it's on the horizion.....you just have to look.

The 35mm and 70mm camera photos have a purity. Some were altered, but you still see a lot, in the unaltered parts. Yes, that's right, some of the photos have blacked out sections, but there's a lot they missed. Thet weren't all altered...so go look at them all.

The video's from the live feeds of the Space Station are another good source of anomalies....and harder to alter. That's why NASA didn't even try. You don't get anything from NASA explaining what's going on in the videos, but you get the camera recording it as it happened. The bone on the ground....I hope it's not another million years, before we know more than we do now. Nasa left a lot of bones for us, we have to look to see them.

Later, John