High School Girl (16) Charged With Conspiracy To Commit Terrorism

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

You see where this is going right? The NDAA act allows trial without due process of terrorists and now anyone can be accused of being a terrorist. NDAA is an act of treason.

That's why I thought this story was so important.

It could very well just be a case of some bullied kids talking smack.

You know, heck you probably remember how it goes. A group of bullies picks on some kids. The kids that got picked on blow off some steam and make each feel better by saying things like, "Those jerks! We should do something about it..."

But, that kind of talk used to be done in the hallway or hanging out after class. Now its done on facebook and other places. So, all it takes is for someone to tip off the cops of that talk (like in this case) and BOOM - you get a 16 year old girl charged with terrorism.

So what could she face with those charges against her?

16 Year Old Girl Charged With Terrorism Conspiracy

Under the charge of terrorism, Emily faces:

-Extraordinary rendition into the hands of foreign governments where should could be legally tortured to give up information on her fellow conspirators.

-Indefinite detention without the right to a trial.

-Incarceration at a military installation, overseas or domestically, under military jurisdiction.

-Water boarding, sleep deprivation, deafening sounds, and other forms of “approved” torture at the hands of US authorities.

-Summary execution by presidential order.

-and other heinous violations of her civil rights

So, ummmm... I'll leave it up to you guys to decide if that fits the crime. Of course, saying "No" might make you a suspect too...

I was charged with conspiracy and terroristic threats when I was in highschool, after the colombine incident. I was sent to a juvenile detention center, with zero proof, based on a rumor started by someone who I didn't get along with.

I know what she is going through. Its BS.

All I have to say is....

I rented a movie that is quite old at the Library the other day. It's from 1969 and called, "if."

It stars Malcom McDowell of "A Clockwork Orange."

The movie ends with the students of a school going on a mass rampage and snipering people. These students who are involved are speaking out against authority.

It only makes me wonder at this point, how many terrorists that have attacked schools, and those that leave notes about being disgruntled have seen this film.

How I ever missed this one is something, because it speaks volumns for itselt, and fits into the last decade, so.

AND I GOT IT AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY!!!!!


Edit to add:

Here is a review of the movie which says 1968 but the movie case says 1969...Quite scary stuff and very futuristic.

movies.nytimes.com...

Rebellious students at an English private school plan a violent revolt against their repressive environment in director Lindsay Anderson's highly acclaimed but extremely controversial drama. Centering on a small group of non-conformists led by Mick Travis (Malcolm McDowell), the film paints a distinctly negative picture of the British school system and, by extension, English society. Seeing the powers-that-be as humorless, bureaucratic, and needlessly restrictive, Mick and his cohorts indulge in small acts of rebellion, including sneaking into town to romance a local waitress.

This deals with the British School system, which I find odd, because it echo's so much of what goes on in the U.S.

a kid i went to highschool with wrote bomb threat on a paper and got expelled

Originally posted by Domo1
Is everything considered 'terrorism' now?

No not everything and not everyone.

Just the following:

War protesters.
Truthers.
Birthers.
The Tea Party.
Occupy Wall Street.
Climate change deniers.
Anyone who opposes the Patriot Act.
Anyone who is against government.
Anyone who would like to use gold or silver as a medium of exchange.
Anyone wanting to grow or sell organic raw foods.
"Eco-fascists".
"Feminazis".
Returning veterans.
Gun owners.
Those who quote the Constitution.

But no not EVERYONE.

Originally posted by Frogs
It could very well just be a case of some bullied kids talking smack.

You know, heck you probably remember how it goes. A group of bullies picks on some kids. The kids that got picked on blow off some steam and make each feel better by saying things like, "Those jerks! We should do something about it..."

But, that kind of talk used to be done in the hallway or hanging out after class. Now its done on facebook and other places. So, all it takes is for someone to tip off the cops of that talk (like in this case) and BOOM - you get a 16 year old girl charged with terrorism.

. . .

I agree. But before I elaborate, I want to say that I followed the link to the source, and I'm not finding much at all--never mind all the things that posters are reading into this. However, I'll let all that go, as I'm fixing to do some speculation of my own.

We, all of us here, have had experience with bullies. We all know it's not cool to take it to the "authorities" (mainly because they always make it worse for everyone with their clueless responses to the problem). Our parents tell us to "stand up to them." And choosing one of those two responses is pretty much what we have to work with.

But this sounds to me like a case of trying to band together with others who've been bullied and attempt to protect each other. To the enlightened traveler there's a long and honorable history in that. But in a "nanny society" with zero-tolerance policies you're supposed to report it to your nannies and then sit still for it until they deal with it.

But, I gather that someone took it to one of the social sites... in other words, put it in writing (bad idea). And furthermore, one or more of the idiots involved did the exact sort of thing that's the cause of them getting bullied in the first place and ran their mouth to the authorities. Clueless to the end, this is the way the authorities decided to respond.

I have no solution. All I can do is admire the complex beauty of the problem.

Boy, are we ever f---ed....

She will never have to ever get a job.


After the Lawyers clean house and sue the School, Cops for Defamation of Character......saying this girl could NEVER get a job/career because they DESTROYED her character.......forever....by calling her a "Terrorist".


$10.5 million is what she should get. And she'll get it too.


Congrats to the girl, she won't even have to finish high school.

I'd sure like to know a lot more about what this girl had in mind. It wasn't so long ago that I wouldn't have thought a 16 year old capable of anything to warrant such a charge...but Colombine and a dozen things since have changed that. A story just the other day had some teenage girls apparently using bodily waste as a topping across a cake. Some saw 'ewwwww' as the reaction while I was horified to imagine E-coli, directly ingested.

I'll hope and half assume this is about as justified as the little kids being expelled over an aspirin or a 1 1/2 inch toy blade on a tiny key chain...but there is always that 'on the other hand.....?' of our current times.

Does anyone know of material put out from fellow classmates perhaps? Anything to know if this was a conspiracy to go beat some kids...or use internet instructions for making something a great deal more ugly? I think intent COULD make a great difference....it just doesn't seem they're sharing enough to know yet.

Google didn't add much for specifics of the 'plot'?

A conspiracy to commit terrorism?? So she was thinking of doing this?? And it's a class D felony?? So if I was thinking of killing my boss I could be arrested?? This is BS...

"Minority Report" anyone??

A bullied kid, into vengeance?? I wish I had the nerve to do so when I was in High School, it would have saved me a lot of hardship.

Police should stay out of normal adolescent rivalry... REALLY!
It's part of growing up and getting acquainted... to the world..

Originally posted by Domo1

An Ottumwa High School student has been charged with conspiracy to commit terrorism. Police arrested Emily Kay Six, 16, Ottumwa, on Thursday. Officials said they began investigating after Six allegedly began trying to recruit students for what police called “a plan to harm a number of students.” The charge is a Class D felony. Six was taken to a juvenile detention facility following her arrest. Police Chief Jim Clark said Six’s plans were stopped before they could be acted upon. The investigation is ongoing, though, and Clark would not comment on whether others may have been aware of Six’s efforts.

Is everything considered 'terrorism' now?

Yes, it is indeed the new name for what used to be called "general crime" or just "crime" or even "prank".

It's getting silly.

Originally posted by Manhater
I don't know, I have to say that street brawl with the 50 girls ganging up on one girl was pretty much an act of terrorism.

Please explain.

It's bad, but it's certainly not an act of terrorism in the traditional sense.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

When people speak of mental warfare, well, this is a prime example. It is conditioning with the intent to causefear.

I'm worried about that and also that pretty soon everything is going to be an act of terrorism, with additional charges tacked on. Conspiracy to commit murder to me isn't terrorism.

Parking wrongly on the street? Certainly an act of terrorism.

Trying to pay for something and your credit card is declined (because you overspent)? Absolutely terrorism.

Trying to pass airport security with your keys still in your pocket, setting the magnetometer off? Terror!!!

When my son was 5, in kindergarten, he got in trouble for saying "if you get in my place in line again I am going to kill you" to a little girl in his class. The school called it a "terroristic threat" and called the police. They asked the other kid's parents if they wanted to press charges...for a KINDERGARTENER! I told the assistant principal that my son wasn't developmentally capable of committing a terroristic threat, but no one cared.

Ever since then, I've been extremely tuned in to how we toss the "kill" statement around. Even in the kids' cartoon Arthur, Arthur says, "DW is going to KILL me!" I guess she's a terrorist, too.

I think all common sense has been lost. And by the way...my son has NEVER harmed another person (other than his older brother...) in any way, and he is now in 8th grade.

So calling this girl a "terrorist" fits right in with what is happening in our schools.

Ummm.... am I the only one here who see's that this girl is just but one of the first victims of the new NDAA?

Originally posted by Pervius
She will never have to ever get a job.


After the Lawyers clean house and sue the School, Cops for Defamation of Character......saying this girl could NEVER get a job/career because they DESTROYED her character.......forever....by calling her a "Terrorist".


$10.5 million is what she should get. And she'll get it too.


Congrats to the girl, she won't even have to finish high school.

What world do you live in? In the real world, there is no legal defense for being called a terrorist. In the real world, labelling someone a terrorist can not be defamation, the patriot act ensures that. . In the real world, a falsly accusing someone of terrorism is considered civic duty, as 'its better safe than sorry' . In the real world, accusing someone is all it takes.

This girl faces a life of hardship, not of millions.

If I had any say, the word terrorism would be banned from use in the United States. It just doesn't exist here. Look at Iraq/Pakistan/Afghanistan if you want to see where terrorism really is. And that's not counting casualties caused by US actions (directly anyway).

Speaking of I'd like to see just one presidential debate on national security where the word terrorism isn't used once. They'd trip all over themselves.

Anyway, I'm off to ensure my dog is not doing anything that might lead to it's arrest on charges of terrorism. It's barking outside and someone might feel terrorized by that.

But seriously, my thoughts go out to her and her family if she isn't guilty of planning anything serious. I'd like to see the specific allegations myself, the article really did not allude to any details to warrant the use of an already overused term.

reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
you do realize that your post is act of which your post calms NDAA is, don't you??? would you like some salt?

Originally posted by Pervius
She will never have to ever get a job.


After the Lawyers clean house and sue the School, Cops for Defamation of Character......saying this girl could NEVER get a job/career because they DESTROYED her character.......forever....by calling her a "Terrorist".

That could well happen.

Hell, in Australia, it's illegal to publicize the name of a minor in relation to a criminal offence.