(Queens Husband) Prince Philip In Hospital After Chest Pains

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheUnusualSuspect
He obviously meant the ruling class/the establishment etc, when he says "Mainstream lying to us for thousands of years"

Then he is using the term "mainstream" totally wrong.

By virtue of being an "elite", they cannot be "mainstream".

Yes, he is using the term wrong. But, you know what he meant. If I did, then surely you can work it out as well. But no, you decided to use his mistake to have a go.

Well, not a fan of the Royals but neither would i rejoice at something like this...for all the guys faults he isn't exactly the spawn of Satan or anything. As for whether Britain should even bother keeping them around, im sure once the queen kicks the bucket there will be a public debate on the issue.

Originally posted by TheUnusualSuspect

Originally posted by stumason

Originally posted by TheUnusualSuspect
He obviously meant the ruling class/the establishment etc, when he says "Mainstream lying to us for thousands of years"

Then he is using the term "mainstream" totally wrong.

By virtue of being an "elite", they cannot be "mainstream".

Yes, he is using the term wrong. But, you know what he meant. If I did, then surely you can work it out as well. But no, you decided to use his mistake to have a go.

Nope, I did not (and neither can you) know that is what he meant. When referring to "mainstream", one thinks about media and the general accepted opinions of the day. Only once you said the above did I offer the clarification you have quoted, so don't try to put words in my mouth by implying I knew what he meant. I actually asked him to clarify it.

And secondly, if I typed "I like to play with baby rhino's", you would assume I liked to play with baby rhino's. I wouldn't then expect someone to infer I meant something else, such as "Oh, he really means he likes to eat Pizza". Bottom line is, be clear in what you say.

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It's a shame they didn't stitch up his mouth whilst he was in the hospital :-)

I saw this reported on SKY news earlier today. I was really surprised to hear the correspondent mention that the Royal Family give their Christmas presents out on the 24th of December as it's German tradition.

I thought that the Royals were trying to hide the fact that they are in fact..Germans.

Originally posted by RMFX1
I saw this reported on SKY news earlier today. I was really surprised to hear the correspondent mention that the Royal Family give their Christmas presents out on the 24th of December as it's German tradition.

I thought that the Royals were trying to hide the fact that they are in fact..Germans.

It isn't a German tradition and my extended family do things Xmas Eve as it saves a lot of buggering around on Xmas day when most people want to relax and have a drink..

While we're on the subject of petty point scoring (more so on the part of Sky, not you) the Advent Calendar we know and love in the UK, well that is a German tradition.

The Xmas tree? A German tradition.

Father Christmas? A German tradition.

In fact, almost the entire way we celebrate Xmas in the UK is based on German tradition!

Even German Xmas markets are becoming ever more popular in the UK.

But, as a point of difference, Germans tend to have 12 days in the run up to Xmas where smaller presents are given out. I don't know if it was just where I lived or more widespread, but that's how my friends did Xmas.

Now, the reason why the Royals do Xmas the day before? Who knows, but I suspect it is because of all the buggering around they have to do as part of "tradition" on the day itself lends no time to spend as a family, so they do it the night before.

Here is a link with some of the traditions they have. Not wildy different to us, but then, why would it be? We are actually culturally a lot closer than we would like to think.

Originally posted by RMFX1
I saw this reported on SKY news earlier today. I was really surprised to hear the correspondent mention that the Royal Family give their Christmas presents out on the 24th of December as it's German tradition.

I thought that the Royals were trying to hide the fact that they are in fact..Germans.

I wouldn't really call them Germans. The Queen was born in England so she is English. The family name is German (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) where their ancestors came from. But when you look at it almost everyones family comes from somewhere other than where they are born (unless you live in africa). That definitely includes over 98% of Americans.

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You're wrong. It IS a German tradition. I was discussing Christmas with my German colleagues earlier this week and they told me then that they do it on the 24th. That is why I was so surprised to hear it on the news today.

Originally posted by watchdog8110
Blood clot . Stick him on thinners and he will be fine for now . Until he gets another clot , that one may be worse than this one . He needs to walk rather than sit or his blood may pool in his lower body ( legs ) . imo

Sounds like a good analysis of the situation... Its just that I'm not entirely compus mentis right now and so I just read "Blood clot" in the context of the distaste arising towards the doddering old git. Oops, perhaps that should have been "His Grace The Doddering Old Git" - any etiquette buffs on hand? Anyhoo, back to my point... yah man, blood clat an' ting ya know.

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Not necessarily just German. The whole Christmas 'tradition' as we celebrate it isn't actually that old and in it's early forms went through many transitions. As the royal family is Anglican it makes sense that they follow the protestant tradition of giving gifts on the 24th and observing the 25th as the actual holy day and birth of the god child, which they believe shouldn't be sullied by the mere giving of gifts to each other.

Many people in England and Europe followed this version of the Christmas tradition until very recently when it became all about family and giving them presents on the 25th rather than the birth of the deity that people supposedly worship.

I'm not one to stick up for the royal family but I think labelling them 'Germans' because of how they choose to celebrate christmas is a bit much. I'm actually more appalled by all the brainless mass that supposedly 'celebrate' this religious festival but don't really know why.

It amuses me how none of them have done anything in the military or navy yet get given fancy dress forces outfits to wear!"Wills" at his wedding was a recent example.

People who turn up to fawn over them in the poring rain must have zero self esteem.I bow and scrape to NOBODY.

And his health concerns could be press code for him losing his marbles/demensia or something.
I heard rumours the Queen Mother had lost it for years before being placed in compost.

Originally posted by PhoenixOD

Originally posted by RMFX1
I saw this reported on SKY news earlier today. I was really surprised to hear the correspondent mention that the Royal Family give their Christmas presents out on the 24th of December as it's German tradition.

I thought that the Royals were trying to hide the fact that they are in fact..Germans.

I wouldn't really call them Germans. The Queen was born in England so she is English. The family name is German (Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) where their ancestors came from. But when you look at it almost everyones family comes from somewhere other than where they are born (unless you live in africa). That definitely includes over 98% of Americans.

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British don't quite do things like Americans. Americans are a melting pot like Canada and while there is some diversity in UK, its far more homogenized, and though you are British if born there, you are not considered British if your genes are not British by that countries citizens, who follow their own customs and traditions.

Originally posted by RMFX1
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You're wrong. It IS a German tradition. I was discussing Christmas with my German colleagues earlier this week and they told me then that they do it on the 24th. That is why I was so surprised to hear it on the news today.

Am I? I'll raise you some German "colleague" (how convenient...) and say I have lived there for 6 years. That said, I did state that traditions vary across the country.

You also failed to address all the points I made about every other tradition being a German one and doing things on the 24th is in no way German, as my own family does it as well as many others I know of. If anything, it is simply practical, especially if you have relatives to go and see on the day.

Originally posted by paperface
It amuses me how none of them have done anything in the military or navy yet get given fancy dress forces outfits to wear!"Wills" at his wedding was a recent example.

Prince Phillip served in the RN and saw action in WW2.

Prince Andrew served in the RN and saw action in the Falklands.

Prince William has served in a variety of roles including SAR, but is prohibited from combat roles as he is heir presumptive.

Prince Harry serves in the Army and has seen action in Afghan.

The Queen herself was an Auxilliary in WW2 who was a mechanic and drove ambulances.

And that's just from memory, I'm sure I can find plenty of other examples to show what a pillock you are for even uttering such a moronic statement.

Originally posted by Unity_99
British don't quite do things like Americans. Americans are a melting pot like Canada and while there is some diversity in UK, its far more homogenized, and though you are British if born there, you are not considered British if your genes are not British by that countries citizens, who follow their own customs and traditions.

Oh, is that how it is? Thanks, Mr Foreign person for enlightening us on how our country does things. Thanks god, as many of us have been doing it totally wrong for years, thank the lord you came in to show us how we apparently do things.

Sarcasm over, you're talking out of your arse. Only if you speak to some rabid BNP member does ANY of the above truly apply.

In view of all these fascinating discussions I will say this:

Happy Pagan Day!! Oops, sorry stumason I meant Xmas!

I have to work over the festive period. And unfortunately I work in a predominately Muslim country and as u all know they don't celebrate Xmas and New Year. So all I can hope for is a good discussion on ATS and a few drinks in the camp bar at night.

So, regardless of who is right and who is wrong............Merry Xmas Everybody!!

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There's nothing "convenient" about it. For the record, I am British born and bred. I currently live in the Netherlands and work in a studio of 160 + people, the vast majority of whom are not Dutch. I have at least 15 German colleagues and guess what the main topic of conversation had been this last week? That's right.. CHRISTMAS!

Here's some interesting historical info on the Royal Family!

In 1936 came Edward VIII who abdicated to marry an American divorcee, Wallis Simpson, and he was replaced by George VI, the father of Queen Elizabeth, and husband to Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon, the present Queen Mother. George died in 1952 and his eldest daughter was crowned Queen Elizabeth II at Westminster Abbey in 1953. By then she had married a fellow member of the Black Nobility, Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark, Baron Greenwich, Earl of Merioneth, Duke of Edinburgh. He was born in Corfu, the son of Prince Andrew of Greece and Princess Alice of Battenberg, the great granddaughter of Queen Victoria. Philip, a Battenberg, took the anglicized version of Mountbatten and, after his marriage to Elizabeth, the British Royal house became the House of Windsor-Mountbatten. Or rather it was Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Battenberg. This arranged marriage was orchestrated by Lord Louis ‘Dickie’ Mountbatten, Prince Philip’s uncle. Philip is extremely well represented by Black Nobility genes, one reason why he has found it so irritating to have to walk behind his wife according to royal protocol. The Queen is the great granddaughter of Queen Victoria and Philip is also related to Victoria through his mother. One thing to remember is that the royal ‘families’ of Europe are not families at all, they are one family, offshoots of the same bloodline operating to the same Agenda.

Now this information comes from David Icke. And u can say what you like about him but he knows what he's talking about. The Reptilians he talks about are documented all over the world in many ancient kingdoms. Yes it sounds far fetched. But so does God and Angels etc.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

Max von Baden founded a school near Lake Constantine in Germany via his personal secretary, Kurt Hahn, who was trained at Oxford, the Brotherhood’s premier training ground for new recruits. Hahn was head of the intelligence desk at the Berlin Foreign Ministry during the war and was Max von Baden’s advisor at the Rothschild-controlled Versailles Peace Conference. It was to their fascist school in Schloss Salem that Prince Philip was sent to be ‘educated’. At the time it was under the control of the Nazi Party and Hitler Youth, with Nazi race science’ on the curriculum. It had quite an impact on Philip as we shall see. Kurt Hahn had left before Philip arrived, but he was not finished with the ‘education’ business. Hahn, a fascist to his core, went to Scotland and started the Gordonstoun Academy, the school where Prince Charles was sent to be indoctrinated.
Hahn the fascist also became an advisor to the British Foreign Office. After four years at Hahn’s German Nazi school, Philip was sent to Gordonstoun on November 16th 1937 as the approach to the Second World War gathered pace.The British public school system, and its equivalent in the United States and elsewhere, is a vital part of the Brotherhood network. It is the recruiting and training ground designed to turn out either psychopaths or mentally and emotionally broken people who have learned to do exactly as they are told. You have only got to talk with some of those who have experienced it to know what a mind control operation it is.

Yes ok Stumason. I copy what I read, see and hear. But I never listen to the 'mainstream' side of accounts or the 'Elite' control agendas and mind manipulation of the population. I read books, watch documentaries and read various websites. And it's not just David Icke that talks about it. There are lots of other researchers out there that say more or less the same thing.

The royal family may look innocent to the public but their past has been tainted by murder, deceit, sexual abuse, drug abuse etc. I don't support them. Never have and never will. Maybe it's my Scottish rebelious nature...lol


They have had a lot of dealings with the Nazi's during the 2 wars as they supported them whilst at the same time supporting their own commonwealth. The Rothschilds who control the European family controlled all sides of the war. So their minions the Royal Elite did the same.

It all gets a bit long in the tooth (Excuse the pun) but the info about the British Royal Family actually being German is more or less correct. Regardless of where they were born. It's what they represent.

Rothschild Zionist controlled Royal Family Elite!!

Originally posted by shauny
He is HATED over here in the UK, so I guess not a lot of sadness here.
Although it is. But his mouth has given the UK a red face many, many times.

He certainly isn't politically correct, so the socialist thought police certainly hate him.

To claim that he is hated in the UK is simply not true.

But then, when did the politcally correct brigade ever worry about the truth?

They are too busy telling everyone else what to think. Half truths and outright lies are their stock in trade.

Originally posted by shauny

He is HATED over here in the UK, so I guess not a lot of sadness here.

Don't YOU decided who hates who, you are one person, you don't speak for me or anyone else, and I don't give a damn whether YOU hate him, or the royal family.

I am from the UK, and I certainly don't hate any of the royals, and I can't think of a single person who I know personally that does.

Hopefully his hospital stay goes smoothly, and he is back out giving us those quality one liner gaffs!

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Indeed! I too am at work, so will pass the time arguing the toss with people I don't know over subjects that have little importance

I use Xmas as it is easier to type - Not a Christian in anyway shape or form, wasn't even Christened!

So yeah, Happy Saturnalia everyone!

Originally posted by paperface
It amuses me how none of them have done anything in the military or navy yet get given fancy dress forces outfits to wear!"Wills" at his wedding was a recent example.

The British Royal family have a proud tradition of active service in the British Armed forces.

Prince Philip and his son Prince Charles were both in the Royal Navy.

Prince Philip saw active service in WWII (Battle of Crete, Battle of Cape Matapan & invasion of Sicily).

Prince Phillip's grandson, Prince Andrew was also in the Royal navy and flew helicopters in the Falklands war acting as a decoy target for exocet missiles.

In respect of Prince Phillip's grandchildren, Prince William and Prince Harry serve in the British Army. Prince Harry secretly served on active service in Afghanistan as a forward air controller.

All 3 generations have fought for the UK.