Ron Paul At 52% in Iowa(NY Times)

I like Ron Paul when it comes to Constitutional values,but he scares me with his foriegn policy.Middle east muslim nations directly fund terrorist with money and weapons that can kill you or me or your kids.

Don't forget about 9/11 people.Those kind of madmen will do it again if they have the chance to do so.Al-qaeda and the Tliban where murdering innocent people in Afghansitan long before 9/11.They get thier wepaons funded to them directly from muslim governments.Do you people honestly think Osama Bin LAden hiding in a compound built just for Him was some kind of luck.There where Paksitan governments branches that knew He was in there.

Which proves all the more that muslim governments fund terrorist and they do nothing to stop it.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
I like Ron Paul when it comes to Constitutional values,but he scares me with his foriegn policy.Middle east muslim nations directly fund terrorist with money and weapons that can kill you or me or your kids.

Don't forget about 9/11 people.Those kind of madmen will do it again if they have the chance to do so.Al-qaeda and the Tliban where murdering innocent people in Afghansitan long before 9/11.They get thier wepaons funded to them directly from muslim governments.Do you people honestly think Osama Bin LAden hiding in a compound built just for Him was some kind of luck.There where Paksitan governments branches that knew He was in there.

Which proves all the more that muslim governments fund terrorist and they do nothing to stop it.

edit on 23-12-2011 by Jobeycool because: (no reason given)

Like Ron Paul stated, they only attack us because we won't get out of their countries! Imagine if China were to come to the U.S. and set up military bases in over half of it. We'd be pretty pissed and would attack the hell out of them too. We act like they actually have the capabilities to bomb us (the middle east) when that is simply just not true. 9/11 happened because there was an agenda to push and that was to take away American freedoms and subject the people to unlawful searches and seizures all under the guise of "Terrorism".

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Ron Paul At 52% in Iowa(NY Times

Awesome! I'm thinking this is going to frost a few backends in the GOP. All those cigar filled back room discussions that Carl Rove has with TPTB ... betchya he's got a massive headache and a frosted butt because his crown prince - Romney - isn't the one with 52%.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Romney isn't the "crown price" of the RNC. Have'nt you heard the term "other than Romney"? What that is referring to is the general electorate, even primary voters, aren't thrilled with Romney. There have been several "OTR's" to date: Bachmann, Perry, Cain and now Gingrich. Their popularity comes from primary voters who are not happy with Romney. In fact, most republicans aren't.

The Carl Rove bit, what exactly are you talking about? What evil conspiracy do you think is lurking? This fringe mindset only serves to hurt the candidate we are trying to help. It looks crazy to those outside of a conspiracy web site. And, I’m sorry, it is.

If you want to help Mr. Paul, actually do something. Push away from your computer, hand out fliers, donate money (even one dollar), post signs, bumper stickers, get involved with the Paul election machine. I’m not trying to pick on you specifically or be rude. I’m just saying typing this kind of stuff on a conspiracy web site only furthers the goals of those who wish to undermine us.

Get out and vote!

Originally posted by freedom12

Originally posted by Misoir
I am not sure if you realized this or not but it is a 52% chance of winning, not 52% in the polls. It does not matter, Iowa tends to vote for the losing candidate (Bush ’80, Dole ’88, and Huckabee ’08) and no other early state has him polling high enough to win this. Even if he did somehow manage to win enough delegates, there is no way in hell he would ever receive the nomination by the party elites.

I realize what they're saying with the 52% Misior. Also pointed to another "regular" poll showing he's at 27.5%.

As for the winner of Iowa caucuses, well, there was a little known Senator from Illinois that did well last time. You may have heard of him? Barack Hussein Obama? Of course, you probably meant to include Repub candidates?

Go Ron Go!!

Reposted for those who said my thread title is misleading. As you see, I did acknowledge that I did understand what the "52%" was and not an actual poll number. The fact that CNN even mentioned it was surprising, but then the Gloria Borger interview with Dr Paul trumped it later in the day.


I do love the anchor in my OP video though! Giggle, giggle, "This is not something you normally see on CNN", she says.

Go Ron Go!!

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I wish it was that easy but you know by now how corrupted our political system is in the US, we no longer elect our political crap, they are voted for us, while giving us the false sense of exercising our so call constitutional rights.

You have witness how the US is now been taken over by those that runs the Fed and Wall Street, money talks and you know what walks in America this days.

For me all this news letter talk is a yawn.

If 20 yrs of racist black church, Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayres, commie mother and father don't matter, these news letters are a real laugh. That's the best they've got. OMG haahaha.

I find it interesting reading the flood of positive comments about Ron Paul on almost ever article I see about him. Even on left wing publications where you would think most of the readers would be for o.

I hope Ron Paul wins by a landslide.

Go Ron Paul.

Originally posted by Misoir
I am not sure if you realized this or not but it is a 52% chance of winning, not 52% in the polls. It does not matter, Iowa tends to vote for the losing candidate (Bush ’80, Dole ’88, and Huckabee ’08) and no other early state has him polling high enough to win this. Even if he did somehow manage to win enough delegates, there is no way in hell he would ever receive the nomination by the party elites.

Actually every president that has been elected won iowa since 1978, Not nominated but elected

It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas...

The lady sure got it right when she said "This not something you see normally on CNN". I had almost given up on CNN as they seemed to be in nearly the same category as FOX "News". They rarely mention Ron Paul and when they do it was in a negative way. For once, at least in this short clip, they showed Ron Paul in a positive light winning a near landslide victory in Iowa.

Originally posted by dubiousone
The lady sure got it right when she said "This not something you see normally on CNN". I had almost given up on CNN as they seemed to be in nearly the same category as FOX "News". They rarely mention Ron Paul and when they do it was in a negative way. For once, at least in this short clip, they showed Ron Paul in a positive light winning a near landslide victory in Iowa.

It's not that they want to say his name, it's just that they can't ignore him any longer.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
I like Ron Paul when it comes to Constitutional values,but he scares me with his foriegn policy.Middle east muslim nations directly fund terrorist with money and weapons that can kill you or me or your kids.

Don't forget about 9/11 people.Those kind of madmen will do it again if they have the chance to do so.Al-qaeda and the Tliban where murdering innocent people in Afghansitan long before 9/11.They get thier wepaons funded to them directly from muslim governments.Do you people honestly think Osama Bin LAden hiding in a compound built just for Him was some kind of luck.There where Paksitan governments branches that knew He was in there.

Which proves all the more that muslim governments fund terrorist and they do nothing to stop it.

edit on 23-12-2011 by Jobeycool because: (no reason given)

Don't forget the United States of America between August 6, 1945 and August 9, 1945 dropped TWO atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

But don't fear the US doesn't use religion or are religious fanatics religion wasn't involved I mean President Harry S Truman said, " I realize the tragic significance of the atomic bomb... It is an awful responsibility which has come to us... We thank God that it has come to us, instead of to our enemies; and we pray that He may guide us to use it in His ways and for His purposes.

—President Harry S. Truman, August 9, 1945[63]

The of course the "justified" Iraq war to invade a country THAT DID NOT ATTACK US!!


Don't worry GUY I wont forget. These kind of madmen will do it again if they have the chance to do so.

VIVA LA RON PAUL!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!


I think I just expressed how I feel bout this . Awesome news

Originally posted by Drezden

Originally posted by Destinyone
I have this strange *gut* feeling, RP is going to win the 2012 election by a landslide.

Des

And he will promptly be assassinated, or die in a tragic accident.

Yep. Just like Obama was.

I love all these psychos that think everyone in office is going to get murdered.

Fox was pissed when Obama won too.. But the predictions of the good ol' boys takin' him out were just as profoundly stupid as this.

"But Obama is a corporate puppet!"

Okay dude, whatever.

Am I the only one here who see's this? Hmm....the world is potentially ending in 2012, TBTB are FINALLY after a thousand year reign relinquishing their powers and going into underground bases all around the world to hide. Coincidently, Ron Paul wants to cut 1 trillion in spending his first year, all of them are government programs, you know why? BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT WILL BE HIDING. We have NO CHOICE. You think what the media is doing isn't clever? Let me explain. If you want the masses to do something, like vote for Ron Paul, then what would your strategy be? My personal strategy would be to run a media blackout on him, to get him more attention. By doing this, you get Ron Paul supporters fired up and excited about what they are doing. The best way to spread the word is word of mouth from people you KNOW, if you go around telling all your friends that the media is hiding Ron Paul from polls, that would be enough to get the average American interested. Thus he gets more attention. I don't have all the pieces to the puzzle, but I think I am on to something, however we will not know for sure until this drama finishes playing itself out.

The media are ensuring Paul's overall failure by labelling him 'the Wild Card'. In most people's subliminal minds, they cannot see ' the Wild Card' winning - just a few underdog victories for novelty value... whilst the 'legitimate' candidate wins Presidency.

It's disgusting the mind games the media plays.

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That's what happened to John Kennedy. He was going to disband the CIA. Now the CIA is the fourth branch of government. I hope he wins, but I have bad feelings about this.

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Andrew Jackson without the big party in the white house :>

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... we shouldn't spread mis-information on ATS.

The substance of that portion of your commentary is worthy of ATS accolades.

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Have any of you ever heard of a Lame Duck President. If not I will explain it. A Lame Duck President is when the President has no power, usually because the elections are finnished and another President has been elected.

Now we all know that Big Business, Big Bankers and the Military Industrial Complex run this country dont we? Really? We all do know that right? Now what exactly do you think the Big corporations, Big bankers and the Military Industrial Complex are going to do if Ron Paul gets in? If you havent already figured it out I will tell you. They will stonewall him. They wont allow him to do ANYTHING at all that he wants to do. He will be FORCED to do what they say if he does anything at all. He will be a Lame Duck President. Congressmen and Women will be bought to fight against him reguardless of what he wants. He will get nothing done unless he does it by Presidential Executive Order. You think Obama is bad? I believe in Ron Pauls IDEAS, except for foreign policy that is, but all of you have said it. They are afraid of him. So if elected they will pay everyone and shut him down making him LOOK like the worst President this country ever had. You may disagree with me, unless you really think about it that is. I am right. Count on it.

Originally posted by thegagefather

Originally posted by Drezden

Originally posted by Destinyone
I have this strange *gut* feeling, RP is going to win the 2012 election by a landslide.

Des

And he will promptly be assassinated, or die in a tragic accident.

Yep. Just like Obama was.

I love all these psychos that think everyone in office is going to get murdered.

Fox was pissed when Obama won too.. But the predictions of the good ol' boys takin' him out were just as profoundly stupid as this.

"But Obama is a corporate puppet!"

Okay dude, whatever.

Obama is a corporate puppet. He hasn't done a single thing to go against the grain of our government's corporate controllers or the military industrial complex. Obama is a team player..

Why on Earth would he ever be assassinated?

Just look at the list of U.S. presidents who have been assassinated or have had attempted assassinations. They are the ones who take their oath seriously.