Hugo Chavez: Obama a "Clown," an "Embarrassment," has turned US into "a disaster."

Originally posted by beezzer
That's exactly what it is. Pot/Kettle.
If Hugo had a paradise, I'd see his point and apply for a visa, but his poop-pile is as big, if not bigger than ours. So while he may be right as far as his assessment of Obama, the only reason he's right is because he is as corrupt and as value-less AS Obama.

Unfortunately, that seems to be a standard for many "leaders" today.
I don't agree with most of his policies either, but we've intervened, or tried to, way too many times lately in other countries' business.

Maybe we're due for a "Latin American Spring" in some of these dictatorship-democracries.

Happy Chanukah.

Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Well, if Obama could keep his nose out of other country's business, he wouldn't have retaliated.

lol, what do you expect? He's the commander of the World Police.

reply to post by Diplomat


Could we get them to keep him?
Arrange a trade?

reply to post by jdub297


What I find interesting as all hell, is how he could have called Obama a puppet instead of a clown, like most of us
at ATS would have. He would 've been far more correct with a word that carries the same price tag. See they
( world leaders ) don't call each other the same things we call them. Because they're on the same team under the same cabal.

Chavez is upset at every US president ... so the rhetoric means nothing. This time he happens to have gotten it right. Obama is a horrid president. But Chavez said that for different reasons then why Americans are saying it.

reply to post by FlyersFan


I find it interesting that people are "big fans" of Hugo Chavez. While he certainly means well for his country, and by extension himself(And perhaps not always in that order, ie Hugo rather than Country first) things are far from perfect there. I am also confused by someone who critisized them for producing oil? You work with what you have, they are lucky to have oil, and they export it. Good for them. They still can't provide steady electricity to their country.

Anyways, for those fans of Mr. Chavez, I will simply suggest that you might find living there more difficult than you imagine, especially if you disagree with the Chavez regime.

"Go after your votes by fulfilling that which you promised your people"

Obama, pwned

Understand this....

The military industrial complex of the US has to constantly justify their existence by manufacturing enemies of the US. Not just enemies - nemesis'.

We have a pathalogical need to always be facing our nemesis down in some sort of epic, good versus evil / communism / Naziism / Terorism struggle. If there were no enemies there would be no need to have a military industrial complex.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a strong defensive force. However, since WWII we have been all offense.

Can you ever imagine a time when the US wouldn't have an enemy? It will never happen. Our military as we speak is in the process of creating plans to initiate a middle east regional conflict with the intent to draw Russia in an finish them and their nukes off for good. Iran is just the fuse.

Then it will be down to China and the US.

This little sparing match with Chavez is just another scripted antagonism of a country we will eventually get around to dominating by the puppet / parrot Obama.

reply to post by beanandginger


The US tried it with an earlier coup which back-fired terribly. I guess they'll sit back and wait until he finally succumbs to that recent bout of cancer, and try again. There's too much oil wealth there for them to ignore it.

reply to post by randyvs

What I find interesting as all hell, is how he could have called Obama a puppet instead of a clown, like most of us at ATS would have. He would 've been far more correct with a word that carries the same price tag. See they
( world leaders ) don't call each other the same things we call them. Because they're on the same team under the same cabal.

No doubt!

These things are delicate, they must be done carefully, so you don't break the spell.

jw

Originally posted by steppenwolf86
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

I find it interesting that people are "big fans" of Hugo Chavez. While he certainly means well for his country, and by extension himself(And perhaps not always in that order, ie Hugo rather than Country first) things are far from perfect there. I am also confused by someone who critisized them for producing oil? You work with what you have, they are lucky to have oil, and they export it. Good for them. They still can't provide steady electricity to their country.

Anyways, for those fans of Mr. Chavez, I will simply suggest that you might find living there more difficult than you imagine, especially if you disagree with the Chavez regime.

They have their own "haves and have nots."

We have our 99%.

The only difference is the magnitude of the differences.

reply to post by beanandginger

Can you ever imagine a time when the US wouldn't have an enemy? It will never happen. Our military as we speak is in the process of creating plans to initiate a middle east regional conflict with the intent to draw Russia in an finish them and their nukes off for good. Iran is just the fuse.

I'm not so sure about all that. Iran will fight back and they still have friends in the region. They have the additional threat of nukes and "dirty bombs."

Syria, on the other hand, is weak, they've been ostracized by other Arab regimes, and they are daily committing atrocities against their own people, including children. Russia is their last remaining ally. If we wanted to goad Russia into something stupid, I think Syria would be the easier target.

The one big problem is logisitcal: Russia is on their doorstep, and we have no footholds. We'd be disadvantaged logistically, so it would have to be quick, devastating and effective. Russia, hopefully, is so torn up by internal division it would not be able to react fast enough to hurt us.

It would also give Obama another huge bump in the polls. I'd say maybe right around March would carry him through to November. It would also be a "show of force" for Iran, if Israel doesn't get them first.

jw

Originally posted by beezzer
Mr. Chavez, shut the hell up!

He's our president, we'll criticize him. Deal with your own damned dictatorship, you bald-headed bowl of fruit-loops!

He's not my president..

That guy who calls himself president is just a stranger on TV.. who reads lines and fails miserably at acting like a leader.

If the oligarch elite don't like Chavez, he must be doing something right... kudos to him for being a thorn in their side.

reply to post by jdub297

These things are delicate, they must be done carefully, so you don't break the spell.

What the. Alright, I'm thinking you read a lot of ATS and we both are interested by the same clues that expose
the facade we know exists.

I enjoyed this....a lot.
Obama IS a clown. And what about the people who voted for him? And they are still making the same mistake voting for rick perry or romney. Some people just deserve to suffer.
Meanwhile fuel is dirt cheap in venezuela.

The funny thing to me is that if some "liberal" came on ATS and said something to the effect that Chavez is a good leader etc., most of you would be shouting communist and posting page after page of what is wrong with Chavez and be asking how anyone in their right mind could support a dictator. Now he is ok? That's rich.

Are you people forgetting Chavez is a dictator?

Yeah its paradise there when Chavez went out of his own country for better medical care than his own and isn't he suppose to be dead last i heard he was on his death bed.

Chavez and Obama are the same 2 peas in the same pod pot calling the kettle indeed.

Originally posted by Wildmanimal
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

Well I may not agree with all of his methods and ideas, I will credit the man for being animated
and having balls of steel. Especially considering his recent health issues.
I do know a few people here in the U.S. that are from Venezuela. They are a younger crowd.
I should really see if I could get them to speak honestly about their views of this character.
For as you know, there is nothing like the real thing.

Speaking to people who leave a country is never a good idea. Statistically you're likely to hear criticisms. Many expats, whether from Western Europe or South America have only bad things to say about their abandoned countries.

Would be better to visit Venezuela and see what the people on the street say. What you find with many Venezuelans who leave and hate Venezuela is that they're from the privileged ilk and don't speak for most Venezuelans.

reply to post by mnmcandiez


That's right, a 'dictator' who's ploughed the wealth generated by his country's oil resources into raising the living standards of the poorest, raising literacy, improving health care etc etc