Global Meltdown imminent: constructive solutions invited

reply to post by pause4thought


War is coming, friend. However I refuse to fight a war, for I honour every person in this world, and I approve of their right to live. I'd like to encourage everyone here, to refuse their gov't's calling to war, against other nations. They do not have the right to drive us against each other for their own financial purposes. Defend your own property for god's sake, but do not kill foreigners just 'cause your politicians tell you. Remember: 'All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers.'

reply to post by davidgrouchy


The reason I have doubts about how long it would have lasted is for it to be successful, the nazi gov't would have had to control how many certificates they print. I cannot think of one Gov't that has been able to keep their currency printing in control unless they had no choice. So if everyone is working for public works projects, what would have happened when people retired, now the gov't needs to print certificates for retirees and new employees. And it snowballs, no different than what it did here with entitlements.

The reason I say there is no proof of how the experiment worked is that it short term was successful, but we have no data beyond that. Our country could wipe out half of our debt by transferring to a new currency and claiming the new currency is worth twice as much as the prior. Bam half of the debt is wiped out, along with half of everyone's wallet. Short term it could be looked at as a success if you look at the debt problem. But fundimentally the system is still flawed because there is no way to control whomever is at the printing press. Eventually we would be at the same place with debt, just with a newer currency.

Do you have a link to anything about Kennedy and central bankers? I have read about Mcfadden getting poisoned in the 30's but have only heard about kennedy. Would like to read about it.

Originally posted by michande

I feel compelled to mention the contortions required
for any American to argue against short term success.

But then, to graft all of America's current problems on top
of their destoryed old world country is ethnocentrism at least.

Remember the family unit was still functioning back then and
the elderly were usually surrounded by a large group, if not a village.


David Grouchy

reply to post by davidgrouchy


Okay then give me some projections on where the system would be today. What would be the unemployment, national debt, would they have a trade surplus or deficit? How do they maintain confidence in their certificates for 6 decades?

Austerity: too late / too unpopular

War: (It worked for Hitler. )

Universal impoverishment: too unpopular

Massive increases in productivity (-i.e. long hours / hard work): too unpopular

Replace the fossil fuel economy with something cheaper / more environmentally-friendly: too popular

Popularity won't be a deciding factor.

Austerity: Unavoidable and necessary - There was too much entitlement, and too much spending. The most socialist countries in Europe are falling under their entitlement burdens. All countries now have to cut entitlements and spending to survive, and so much debt has built up that the interest will take decades or centuries to pay off, so austerity is the new normal.

War: Unavoidable and economically purging, reduces the burden of population on the earth, plus there were and will always be wars. Wars will be different though, there will be no front lines, and who your friend and enemy are will not only be unclear but they will change frequently.

Universal impoverishment - Huh? You mean by raising taxes and suppressing the economy? It's been happening for decades, ever try to buy something of quality these days? Look at the craftsmanship and materials used in antiques, and compare that to what you buy at Costco or Walmart.

Massive increases in productivity - Definitely unpopular in Greece/France/Spain. Hardworking Germans are very unhappy bailing out lazy Greeks living off the social system. Hardworking Americans are becoming more and more unhappy about bailing out banks and foreclosed homeowners who knew better.

Replace the fossil fuel economy ... With what, wood? Everything non-fossil is far more expensive and/or poisonous.
Making fossil fuel cheaper is like a tax cut to the poor and middle class, and would greatly boost the economy. Get rid of Gore and his Carbon tax idiots who are destroying economies by recruiting governments to their 'politically correct' and ill-conceived ideology.

What the world needs now is: Austerity, war, cheaper quality products, fewer social burdens, and cheaper oil. Exactly the opposite of what people want.

Originally posted by Dbriefed

Replace the fossil fuel economy ... With what, wood? .

There are purportedly

3-4 DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES related to the UFO technologies

which would essentially afford all the power necessary for a home or transportation--say in a large suitcase sized unit--one for home and one for each transport vehicle--costing maybe as much as 50 CENTS a year for maintenance and all other costs.

The Marxist globalist satanist elites purportedly decline to allow such on the open market for 3 big reasons:

1. The main one is decentralized power would lesson their nooses around all our necks that centralized power affords.

2. They fear a massive population explosion and depletion of other resources of the planet if such were released BEFORE the population is FORCED genocidally down to 200 million.

3. They wouldn't get insanely rich off of every gas tank fill-up etc.

Austerity is just making it worse over in Europe, so that wouldn't work, anyway, more than likely. As for massive increases in productivity, I don't really understand how that would work. One of the major drawbacks of a financial crunch is that there's no demand. If there's no demand, there's no need for productivity.