One Person, Three Bodies, Always Now

This is going to start off seeming to jump around, but builds to a perspective or way of viewing consciousness that I haven't seen expressed quite this way. It's an exploration down a path. If you hate smithjustinb's threads, probably want to avoid here too.

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No matter what philosophy a person holds... there is one single thread of truth that runs through all of them. Interestingly, there is also a single thread of truth that runs through every piece of "good advice" ever given.

1) The current life you live (the experience of birth to the experience of death), is a Bubble on the surface of an infinite waterfall that feeds itself. From the deepest nihilist to the Highest Theist, this holds true.

2) Be your TRUE self, and love every moment as if it were the first and last.

No matter what is or isn't consciousness... no matter whether it goes forever, or is actually just a moment pretending to last a second... what else is there *really* worthwhile to do than to just sit there and marvel at and love every single thing thrown at you... whether from heaven or hell.

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How do you convince -1 that it is "Negative" compared to 1 without language... instead with emotion?

Is a plane higher than a car?

Is a plane in China higher than a car in America?

Is a plane on Saturn higher than a car on Earth?

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Nothing is true, everything is relative to 1) Who is asking? and 2) What is their intent? Without those factors, no answer or question has meaning.

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The most loving thing you can do is be the most true you you can be. Yet find anything in our culture/civilization that *genuinely* encourages this that doesn't carry some form of hefty baggage blocking it from being ultimately experienced.

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When you are perfect, you don't exist because you don't have anything to contrast yourself with. The most skillful do the least when it matters the most.

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If you were the Mandlebrot set... which side would you call "life" and which side would you call "death"? The portion that goes into black for all circumstances ever for all observers... or the portion that has infinitely redfinable colors depending on your position/judgement and doesn't actually exist except in the observer's imagination? Which side of the Mandlebrot Coin is the most interesting to walk? How would you walk it? How do you traverse an infinite number of paths? You split into two at each point. However how do you remember what you've learned? You leave a third person behind to listen to both of you as you go down your separate paths.

One person... Three Bodies. Shared Now but also a Shared Separation all at the same paradoxical time when viewed from the two separated perspectives.

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One Person, Three Bodies.

H20 = Ice, Water, Steam

0-32 = Ice to Water. Unfrozen 33rd degree Free Mason.

Other forms of Masonry = 3 Degrees. Ice, Water, Steam.

Each is a level of consciousness. All are one, but each is manifestly and fundamentally different.

Ice requires structure, and each part is not allowed to be unique, however the whole forms a unique, if rigid and easily broken structure. Individuals vibrate at a very low frequency at this level of existence.

Water requires a container (some very loose structure), however there is room for individual expression of self, and mobility... even if it requires great energy to move significant distances. Individuals vibrate at a higher and more variable frequency at this level of existence, but for the most part still flow with their environment.

Steam generally obeys no constraints and is free to just be as it will be. If it encounters a barrier that is too strong, it freely moves off as if nothing happened (though some energy may still be exchanged). Sometimes however, enough of the light touches can encounter the barrier to cause it to move, though the barrier will detect little more than it feels hotter. There is an enormous amount of freedom of individual expression here.

In all stages, the whole also had a form, and had certain patterns that could be repeated... however the fundamental nature of the individual and the society, as well as how they affected each other when interacting... is fundamentally different.

"Airheads" and "He's so spacey" carry certain biases to us regarding how the person behaves. "Dense" and "he's so rigid" also carry certain biases.

It's no mystery that we would have a great deal of overlap between nature, our mind, and our language... but perhaps we've gotten the order of operations wrong here? Doesn't it make more sense that an un-interpreted sense is experienced. No knowledge is available of how this experience was created... only that it was experienced. Thus... feeling/experience is first. Then... after consistent feeling patterns are determined either language or visualization progressed. This was a branching. One was a "set of instructions to predict/remember" the other was a "picture to see now". Both the inner "mathematical language" and the "image produced" had to develop in parallel... similar to programming languages and monitors/output mechanisms.

This means they are both two sides of the same coin... feeling or experience... being interpreted in mutually exclusive but... just like two eyeballs... when paired together create a perspective that allows us to bring understanding to the feeling and become conscious of both how it feels, but what might be causing the feeling.

However since both branches of explanation are by definition and requirement... incomplete... it's easy for conflict over who is right to develop. The conflict is in fact what creates the potential for increased understanding, however if allowed to become the only way to see things (as either *this* OR *that*.... either right eye OR left eye... for a good metaphor), then we become trapped. Neither eye is correct, both add to the total picture.

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Then I sleep and wake up, and need someone to point for me again.

awesome read, i love your the body analogy. the trinity has a large role whichever way you look at it.

reply to post by ErgoTheConfusion


it is incredible what u could invent just to call ur god superior to truth, which prove the liars u r u and ur god in mind

if u r not already urself then u r not a person, and when u r urself u wont choose anything it is always about realizing urself relative existence according to what is objectively and obviously present that urself freedom constant presence recognize

trinity suggestion of lies is never about the devil and the judge needed to b urself, this is ur kind of fake existence that always mean scripture as super books that can make ur life while u never move a finger by urself

opposites cannot be one, and if ur god is one from opposites then he is alone that one which is a lie noone is from opposites results

trinity is about the same so truth how it can b perceived continuously by conscious

any conscious is principally a relative entity out of truth, so witness truth of itself constancy moves but also witness else moves, while then the concept of else is to itself else so only one objective truth perspective, but also then the common points between self and else are to truth reality

so u have three different perspectives for same truth that u as a conscious is meant to have fun with as it is a lie theory from god pretending having fun in inventing faces of animals as students ready to pretend being conscious plays

when truth is then u r never true but only a relative entity out from truth abstraction as a whole, u cant b any if it is not out of absolute truth

what u mean to support ur god will to possess everyone from forcing a true relative right by killing absolute truth, prove what i said, how god mean to abuse the truth for him as the only one out

which also prove ur always now being all to evil life based on killing truth

there is no al ways but of truth freedom and no now but of truth free realizations, then u and ur god mean never ever which prove the evil mean since absolute reverse

keep beting on abusing what is not even a dust from such powers and forces wills lets see where it is gonna end

reply to post by ace1059

Originally posted by ace1059
awesome read, i love your the body analogy. the trinity has a large role whichever way you look at it.

Thanks! It was a ton of fun to write up and explore.

I continue to be amazed at how much the Trinity comes up everywhere and matching a metaphorical image of the idea of a "Father/Thought", a "Son/Result", and a "Holy Ghost/Observer" model.

Originally posted by absolutely
it is incredible what u could invent just to call ur god superior to truth, which prove the liars u r u and ur god in mind

I think you have my views a little confused. I appreciate the response, but the perspective you are arguing against is not one I hold, though I can maybe see how you might have read my posting that way. Most of what you state is actually in line with what I was writing, especially the non-division in truth, the non-judgement, the non-action of being your true self, etc.

Namaste

reply to post by ErgoTheConfusion


it is the opposite of what i clearly mean, it is ur business to profit from reverses life of what it is right or true

there is no self mister when u mean absolute facts, only individual absolute freedom fact or all objective absolute constancy fact

but of course to ur evil means, better to focus on someone to get straight to ur end while relative do not exist at all in any term but that is ur life to enjoy what is absolutely wrong being truth in lies powers dimensions ruled by evil life

yea keep talking about each others with love especially let see that love thing of urs how it would force absolute existence, it is revealing all lies
using what is beyond absolute values mister is only out of absolute values never else

You said:

"When you are perfect, you don't exist because you don't have anything to contrast yourself with."

Considering the Universe is the Most Perfect Lifeform possible, who many know as God/Source, your statement fails.

As far as your "One Person, Three Bodies, Always Now" theory, that too fails.

Your "person" is an illusion and you have no body and anything that only exists Now, doesn't exist in the Then & When, so for the Now to exist, the Then & When must exist as well. The math of that is:

1 + 1 + 3 = 23

Which is similar to the math of your equation, cept'n the numbers are assigned differently.

Ribbit

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Your "person" is an illusion and you have no body and anything that only exists Now, doesn't exist in the Then & When, so for the Now to exist, the Then & When must exist as well. The math of that is:

u r proving the evil u r in meaning willingly lies life

the person is what is the most absolutely true from oneself free perspective of itself, the still present in absolute terms is obvious, only when the person die that this constant stop existing while when it dies it stop perceiving anything

where truth prove bein beyond what u think being above all knowledge, is what obviously u dont know how one existence is exclusively from recognizing else existence objective
so there is no when or where as u think for a person to exist, the only fact that it can have an objective perspective make it ipsofacto the only fact existing itself

Originally posted by absolutely

Originally posted by ButtUglyToad
Your "person" is an illusion and you have no body and anything that only exists Now, doesn't exist in the Then & When, so for the Now to exist, the Then & When must exist as well. The math of that is:

u r proving the evil u r in meaning willingly lies life

the person is what is the most absolutely true from oneself free perspective of itself, the still present in absolute terms is obvious, only when the person die that this constant stop existing while when it dies it stop perceiving anything

where truth prove bein beyond what u think being above all knowledge, is what obviously u dont know how one existence is exclusively from recognizing else existence objective
so there is no when or where as u think for a person to exist, the only fact that it can have an objective perspective make it ipsofacto the only fact existing itself

There is no spoon!
There is no person!

There is no spoon!
There is no evil!

But in your case:

There is no spoon!
There is no brain!

Ribbit

reply to post by ButtUglyToad


u r nocase to state any case piece of no brain urself