Sheriff: Ohio man cleaning gun killed Amish girl

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Who goes and digs up their bullets after they shoot?

At that, if youre shooting at a deer and miss........how often do you actually see where the bullet hit, especially if its zooming past and probably hit 300 yards down the road......

really? Dig up your bullets .....come on now lol

Technically you are supposed to. Muzzle loader bullets are lead and the EPA considers it hazardous waste. I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for it, but you never know.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Who goes and digs up their bullets after they shoot?

At that, if youre shooting at a deer and miss........how often do you actually see where the bullet hit, especially if its zooming past and probably hit 300 yards down the road......

really? Dig up your bullets .....come on now lol

Wow.....you should not be allowed to hunt. Do I go and dig up every bullet I have shot, NO, if you care to read the post it says "will I be able to walk over and dig up the bullet" (notice the word WILL )

If the deer is 300 yards away, I'm not going to take that shot in the first place.....bullet drop, wind deflection, gravity......if you were smart enough to understand these things, you would understand why an intelligent person would not take a shot like that with a MUZZLE LOADER.....on a DEER.

I realize snipers in a combat situation have a bit different perspective....I'm just out there to put meat in my freezer.

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I shouldnt huh?

1... I didnt say the deer was 300 yards away, i said the continuing velocity could take it farther out, ie 300 yards or more before it strikes....

2. Muzzle loaders i understand, I wasnt aware thats what your post in particular was in reference too......

3. Most of the time when I take a shot at a large animal, im not shooting down.......so a missed shot is most likely not going to hit the ground anywhere near the target.........

This is why your answer confused me a bit

And please try not to insult........Ive been hunting since i was a kid......Moose, Elk, Whitetail, black tail, Mulies, Antelope, bear, Wolf, Cougar.......you get the jist......

and am also prior military, im aware of how trajectory works..........thanks

Reminds me of a story on some of those "this is so unbelievable you wont believe" -kind of shows. It was a death by shot also. Some people on a boat shot at the water. The bullet bounced and then travelled really really far and through tiny sliver in the backseat window of a car hit the driver behind the ear. A fraction of a seconds difference on the timing and it would've hit the car window harmlessly or missed completely. Sometimes these things happen. You should never discharge a weapon to the air because the bullets will always come down somewhere.

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It was in New York. The gun was a .303 British Lee Enfield Mk IV. Only reason I know is that I own two of these rifles and the story was strange enough to attract my attention.

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that is really interesting. i hadn't heard about that and i had to go and look it up. talk about bad timing!

Originally posted by Sorgmodig
I smell a conspiracy. But after all, it was just an amish.

..."after all, it was just your daughter/sister/fiancee/mother...."

Really. Show some empathy for a fellow human being and most of all, their family. Even if you can't physically wear the shoe, try a vicarious one on for size as I just did for you in my rewritten reply there.

Thats one of the saddest, yet most incredible things I've ever read.

I'd love to know the angle of the barrel or trajectory of the ball. The fact that the girl was in a moving buggy too? That's amazingly awful to say the least. Talk about your time being up.

I'd like to know if it was the longest confirmed kill by a gun ever.
Officialy, i believe its around 1.850 meters from a UK sniper in 08.
So we are talking 2.200 meters in here, this is unherd of.
The reason i'd like to know this info is simply because the sheriff was probably aiming at 45-50 degree into the sky, wich my head cant understand the odds of accidentally killing someone by doing so, this is way more than badluck.

It was a tragic accident, nothing more.

Not even snipers could kill at 1.5 miles.

Mythbusters shot a cannonball out of a bomb range through occupied houses in a nearby neighborhood, easily could have killed someone. There was more liability by Mythbusters in purposefully firing a cannonball towards a neighborhood than someone accidentally firing into the air.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
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3. Most of the time when I take a shot at a large animal, im not shooting down.......so a missed shot is most likely not going to hit the ground anywhere near the target.........

Please tell me you actually ensure you have a decent back stop before you pull the trigger

And please try not to insult.......

Sorry, I just got a bit worked up......(stupid on my part, I'll admit)

Originally posted by Dbriefed
It was a tragic accident, nothing more.

Agreed. I do believe that there was negligence on the part of the man who fired the rifle, but, it isn't criminal negligence. If the girl's parents want to take that up it is their business. I do believe that the guilt that this man is going to have to live with is punishment enough.