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I believe the story that these guns rode on the hips of officers who died is false if it is presumed their bodies were engulfed in molten concrete, but their guns survived. The fact that the guns were embedded in concrete disproves the claim they were on the officers' hips that morning. A more realistic explanation is they were dumped in the still wet concrete after a crime was committed.
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by septic
The placard says MELTED.
You said lava. Not "like" lava. Gotcha. Like is a word. Its use has a purpose. You did not use it in your OP yet you had knowledge that the presntation did include the word. Hmmm. There's a word for that.
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by septic
I believe the story that these guns rode on the hips of officers who died is false if it is presumed their bodies were engulfed in molten concrete, but their guns survived. The fact that the guns were embedded in concrete disproves the claim they were on the officers' hips that morning. A more realistic explanation is they were dumped in the still wet concrete after a crime was committed.
Or that the encasements were found in the vicinity of the US Customs aresenal and that the concretions are a result of heat, gypsum, stone and water which were more than well in supply to create a concrete without the actual pre-existing concrete being reduced to a liquid state and then reconstituted to a solid.
Originally posted by MaxSteiner
reply to post by hooper
Sorry, but you've made a big mistake, at least have the balls to admit it.
You said where does it say Lava. You've been shown.
No never mind, I can already tell you're one of those people who can't ever bare to be wrong about anything....
Edit ==>Furthermore, you attempt at deflection is PATHETIC!
Of course its LAVA LIKE, ITS NOT REALLY LAVA, IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF A VOLCANO.
edit on 19-12-2011 by MaxSteiner because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by septic
I believe the story that these guns rode on the hips of officers who died is false if it is presumed their bodies were engulfed in molten concrete, but their guns survived. The fact that the guns were embedded in concrete disproves the claim they were on the officers' hips that morning. A more realistic explanation is they were dumped in the still wet concrete after a crime was committed.
Or the officer was pulverized during the collapse.
Or the officer was incinerated leaving just the metal parts of the gun.
Two very reasonable explanations as opposed to evil people throwing police into wet concrete.
Besides didn't you say that extreme heat breaks down concrete?
You'd think they'd be in the US Customs Museum or something.
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by MaxSteiner
reply to post by hooper
Sorry, but you've made a big mistake, at least have the balls to admit it.
You said where does it say Lava. You've been shown.
No never mind, I can already tell you're one of those people who can't ever bare to be wrong about anything....
Edit ==>Furthermore, you attempt at deflection is PATHETIC!
Of course its LAVA LIKE, ITS NOT REALLY LAVA, IT DIDN'T COME OUT OF A VOLCANO.
edit on 19-12-2011 by MaxSteiner because: (no reason given)
You think its meaningless and trivial yet so many of these cock and bull conspiracy fantasies are based on twisting a word here and omitting a word there until they can contrive some nonsensical "theory". In this case a simple placard at a POLICE museum sought to tell the viewer in the simplest terms what they were looking at and how it got that way. Then the OP twists this into some kind pseudo sciencitific declaration and draws some delusional conclusions.
Or the officer was pulverized during the collapse.
Or the officer was incinerated leaving just the metal parts of the gun.
Two very reasonable explanations as opposed to evil people throwing police into wet concrete.
Besides didn't you say that extreme heat breaks down concrete?
Originally posted by MaxSteiner
reply to post by samkent
Actually they were from an evidence room according to the placard,but as Hooper has so elegantly proven for us, the sign is wrong, so maybe we should take that with a grain of salt
Originally posted by septic
reply to post by thedman
The police say melted concrete, are you saying they're wrong?
Then again..perhaps the vast majority don't see the point of questioning the origins of some Police weapons that once sat on the hip of Officers who probably died in the towers that morning.
How could the steel survive if the concrete melted like lava?
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by septic
reply to post by thedman
The police say melted concrete, are you saying they're wrong?
From the placard:
GUN ENCASED IN CONCRETE AND GUN CASING REMAINS
The U.S. Customs House stored a large arsenal of firearms at its Six World Trade Center Office. During recovery efforts several handguns were found at Ground Zero including these two cylindrical gun casing remains and a revolver embedded in concrete. Fire temperatures were so intense that concrete melted like lava around anything in its path.
Nothing about the guns being on the hips of the NYPD.