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LoveJoy comet December 2011: UFO? OVNI? Asteroid? Something incredible!

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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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LoveJoy comet grazed Sun surface at only 140000 kms and survived.Was it really an asteroid or UFO?



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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More here about it -
spaceweather.com...


COMET LOVEJOY SURVIVES: Incredibly, sungrazing Comet Lovejoy survived its close encounter with the sun yesterday. Lovejoy flew only 140,000 km over the stellar surface during the early hours of Dec. 16th. Experts expected the icy sundiver to be destroyed. Instead, NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory caught the comet emerging from perihelion (closest approach) apparently intact


... this "comet" is really something special. The size of this thing must have been massive to be able to survive such a close pass to the sun as it has.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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I'm just thinking that we're a little rock in a space of truly unimaginable size that we can barely see a fair % of, let alone understand in even the slightest ways. This matters because I wonder if this wasn't a glimpse at a comet made of things outside of what we have come to expect. Actually grazing through the atmosphere of the sun itself is no small thing, indeed. Perhaps this was more than ice and mud.

It'll really be something when we develop the means to capture these when we choose. It may take decades and the end result may be a solution that takes half the solar system to stop but eventually we'll come up with a way to cause enough drag for these to bring them to a stop within range of getting to for a closer inspection and mining samples.

The future will be a truly exciting place if we can just get there in one piece.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:01 AM
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Problem is, it came from a very well known group of comets, the Kreutz group, their trajectory is well known and this comet was on the same trajectory.

Clearly it is quite dense, yet had enough 'ice' for a tail to be seen as well, a very unique comet.

We should be pleased to have had up to 6 different space craft that watched it, the data gleaned from all of them combined will be invaluable.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
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Problem is, it came from a very well known group of comets, the Kreutz group, their trajectory is well known and this comet was on the same trajectory.

Clearly it is quite dense, yet had enough 'ice' for a tail to be seen as well, a very unique comet.

We should be pleased to have had up to 6 different space craft that watched it, the data gleaned from all of them combined will be invaluable.


I know, it's likely not anywhere near as mysterious as all that and I'm sure someone like Phage could come along and smash my romantic images of exotic comets like a bottle on the sidewalk.
I can still imagine though. After all, chasing imagination is what got us those 6 space craft to see it this time, right?

I do agree though, this odd behavior with such close observation helps fill the body of data needed for the less romantic and more scientific minded folk.
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:15 AM
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Odd though.

What was that object in front of Lovejoy?



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 04:57 AM
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ok, i thought comets were made of ice and mud, so... how come an ice ball scratches... THE SUN... and does not melt?
) i mean come on, can you imagine we could use that ice for our polar caps or for all the nightclubs. Also for the ice sculptors that would be amazing, their work would never melt. now seriously, what was that thing made of? it's obviously not ice. And my second question, how come the gravitational pull of the sun didn't swallow it? and no, thank you i'm not looking for an answer "it had the perfect trajectory and it made it swing BS", I say this again it's the sun, at what gravity that thing has it can attract an iceball with no problems. I'm just curious if somebody can answer these questions.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:06 AM
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So i wonder what that small dot infront of the asteroid was...


And how the hell did that thing survive.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 09:03 AM
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Funny that there is some time that seems to not be identified..at 1.46 on the video to the left the time on I'm assuming the NASA vido goes from 23:30 to 0:18 to 0:23...a bit of a gap and again it goes to 5:30 so again we have some missing time...probably not a big deal but was there the old bait and switch? How the heck does it not burn up and if it was something else I find it hard to believe that another object would not burn up...
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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 09:49 AM
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What makes any one think a ufo is guiding this object. A good senario might be that the oroginal object is an experimental craft, say to test a sun shield, and the other craft is only observing the test. I totally agree that a comet made of ice, that close to the sun, would not have survived this close encounter. What is of interest is how the, should we say, tails at it gets nearer the sun shoot off at 90% from the"comet". As I have been led to believe the tail is always pointing away from the sun through the strength of the solar winds. This obviously dosn't happen here. But I suppose some one will say that it's to do with the pixelation of the recorders. IMHO.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 01:34 PM
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Until Phage gets here to burst my bubble...gonna fantasize for a minute.

The sun is a living entity. It pushed the comet out of it's trajectory in order to stop a massive explosion on that side of the sun. How's that for an explanation



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 01:56 PM
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Maybe it was a ball of fire (mini sun)

Just joking. I have no idea. It humored me when the thought came to pass.


Or maybe it was Al Gore trying to attack it for stealing his GW scheme

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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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makes me wonder if one day we will wake up to seeing a huge piece on the sun missing. I know it would take something massive with alot of speed, but just a thought



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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Please direct you're comments to existing thread 17th Dec'11.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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It most have a highly condensed core. Not like most frozen gas/water cores. maybe iron or another strong metal. I just dont see it being a UFO. If theyre able to go that close to the sun, then theyre technology is too great to need to ride comets. Unless you think about the sun charging Ufos like hypothosized in the main articles comments. Then i guess you would need a ride. lol. At the same time though, we are extremely far away from the sun and we harness its energy every day with solar technology. So why get that close and risk exposure to such high radiation? unless thats theyre power supply



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by quedup
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Please direct you're comments to existing thread 17th Dec'11.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Search Button !!!!


Thanks, but it’s easier for me to keep ‘religious coincidences’ separate from ‘UFO towing’ hypotheses.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:20 PM
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If tungsten is our substance with the highest known melting point of ~3400C, what could that “comet” consist of to survive a pass so near to the sun?

If such hard/dense comets exist, it seems that it would be useless to nuke one on a collision course with Earth (of course, that may not be a great idea regardless).

The more seemingly reasonable alternative of steering such a comet away from a collision course with Earth may also be impossible because of the apparent immunity to outside gravitational forces; or not(?).

Can anyone in the know chime-in on this?


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posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
More here about it -
spaceweather.com...


COMET LOVEJOY SURVIVES: Incredibly, sungrazing Comet Lovejoy survived its close encounter with the sun yesterday. Lovejoy flew only 140,000 km over the stellar surface during the early hours of Dec. 16th. Experts expected the icy sundiver to be destroyed. Instead, NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory caught the comet emerging from perihelion (closest approach) apparently intact


... this "comet" is really something special. The size of this thing must have been massive to be able to survive such a close pass to the sun as it has.


I just read that quote. Comets are not iceballs. NASA studied at least 4 up close and were suprised to discover they were wrong about many things and all the things they found out were already outlined by the Electric Universe Theorists.


1/6 Comets - Not What We Expected



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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I think comments can be post everywhere. Is there any specific reason to go and post comments there? I don't see there anything special info, but copies of others sites. Thanks



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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We can see more here : jhelioviewer.org...
source:www.esa.int...

Know! one question: Why the "fire tail" after getting around the sun, stays in the same direction (in front of the travel direction of the comet) that he appeared? Shouldn't be behind the comet ? hum... tricky one



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