Spiders Scream??

Originally posted by LL1
Looks real to me:

They definitely look real, and pretty big too.

Although whatever is shown in the photograph above appears to be far too large for camel spiders, the creatures look unusually large because they were held close to the camera, creating an illusion of exaggerated size. (Note the man's sleeve which appears on the right of the picture.)

[edit on 9-11-2004 by ProudAmerican]

Now that's HUGE!

Bet they fear the spiders more so than insurgents...

i would...

Are there spiders larger than Camel Spiders?
Just wondering, insects are not quite my thing.

The Camel Spider is not actually a Spider at all. They are in the same " Family" i guess, but are a different species of arthropod called solipugids. US has it's own "camel spider" also mexico.

Originally posted by AgentGirl
The Camel Spider is not actually a Spider at all.

They are in the same " Family" i guess, but are a different species of arthropod called solipugids. US has it's own "camel spider" also mexico.

and roaches...

I bet those that are natives of the country/ies eat them..
Do they?????
Excuse me

Lobsters= Cocroaches of the SEA , Getting hungry aren't u?

Originally posted by AgentGirl
Lobsters= Cocroaches of the SEA , Getting hungry aren't u?

Just had to jet several emails to Iraq to them to leave those spiders there.
Asked that they shake everything before boarding to come back to the States, and to kindly check the cargo bay area for eggs!
Remember the movie "Alien"....
Well they look like that to me!
I can not even fathom these things running around in the states!

i have never heard of this before, a spider screaming, not sure how many times i screamed there after looking at the pics of spiders lol.

your a lot braver than me LadyV owning a tarantula, i thnk either your dislike them or they dont bother you.

thinking about it though, maybe they do scream, as surely they know they are going to die. i havent heard them do it before but i usually keep my distance from them lol...i'l have to mention this to people see what they say

rynaldo

Originally posted by AgentGirl
I have heard the same, that spiders scream.. Didn't believe it at first until i read about it and saw this picture of a Bannana Spider

It is found only in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia and eastern Thiland.

We get bannana spiders here in Florida as well.

Not sure about the sreaming, but there are hissing cocroaches, so if they have to ability to move air, I guess they should be able to make some sound.

Ok to displace some previous theories and such.

First to start with the main point of screaming, sorry spiders can't "scream" in the sense of how we might do. They lack vocal cords and so can not expel air from the lungs to make any sound. Even if it were possible then it would server no purpose since all spiders are deaf, having no ear canals.

There have been comments of things such as Wolf spider "song" however this is caused by the spiders rubbing legs and pedipalps to create a rythmic huming. This is used for a number of reasons as all spiders are hypersensitive to vibrations.

So sorry but you didnt hear it scream, most probable thing i could think of is air. By this i mean the same thing as lobster screams when boiled, it's a known fact that it is just air escaping at high velocities, and was most likely the same thing as your shoe hit it fast enough and at a correct angle to force the air out.


Ok to move onto banana spiders, sorry but they aint super dangerous spiders (at least not the one your showing in the pictures), the ones shown are not even "hunting" species, they make and live in webs waiting for prey to come to them. Their bite is not dangerous unless one is alergic. (much like bees and wasps)
There is however a very dangerous spider that is sometimes called a Banana spider, it's other names include Wandering spider for one, and it is probably in the top 5-6 of deadly species. It gained its Banana name from getting itself into banan boats bound for the US from South America, and looks very different from the web dwelling banana shaped spider.

Incase that aint enough do a google for the Brazilian wandering "banana" spider Phoneutria fera and the harmless Banan spider, sometimes called Golden silk spider Nephila clavipes.



To address the camel spider, well sorry but most of the coming out from the linked sites comments is way way off. If lucky they may hit 5" and possibly 10mph tops. They're not true spiders as someone stated already, nor do the possess any venom. So those stories of being eaten without feeling is untrue, as is the thing about camel stomachs.
Solpugids are found worldwide also not just in iraq, including around 50 types in southwest US. They get their common name by their colour nothing more. They are fairly aggressive as spiders go, but not to the extent of attacking humans. If your a small bug or beetle then watch out!! otherwise just let them get off you or out of your way and your fine.
The most likely cause for any ill effects from bite from these creatures has been put down to infection of the wound, since they do have pretty big jaws.


Hope that clears up any specualtion.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by feygan]

Originally posted by AgentGirl
Lobsters= Cocroaches of the SEA , Getting hungry aren't u?

Lobsters are related to spiders and scorpions. So really spider or scorpion of the sea would be more correct.

[edit on 12-9-2004 by ShadowXIX]

Camel Spiders are "aggressive" ?
What states are they found in?
New York on the list?????

Originally posted by LL1
Camel Spiders are "aggressive" ?
What states are they found in?
New York on the list?????

Well yeah they are aggressive in that they are active hunters rather than web makers. (since they have no silk glands) For humans? no they're about aggresive as your adverage politian in a biker bar. If you saw one it's the old addage of it being more frightened and just wanting to get away from you, if you had one sat on your leg it would be running off you.

As to what states, well I don't know, however Solpugids are a dry land type species dwelling mainly in desert type regions, so no doubt you can work out a few. Camel spiders however do not live in the US they are just a sup-species of Solpugids, as Polar bears are to bears.

The type your likley to find in the US are from the Eremobatidae family.

look pretty similar as to the Solpugidae family but with a more slender body and a general darker colour. They also have a slightly differ jaw structure.


New York?? not gona be there naturally, the climate is all wrong. But then you do find snakes in toilets and such so maybe your'll find an escaped pet in your shoe. Watch your toes now.

There's is no psysical way a spider can make a sound, so no, they cant scream!

And to those that definately heard spiderscreams when they burned them, air'pockets inside burning wood can make high-pitched sounds when they make contact with the surrounding air, so that probably solves that mystery..

OMG!
On my leg!?
I could not even be in the same room!
I was wondering about the size of the web, but you clarified that for me.
I envisioned, a web both large enough and strong enough to entangle a human in.
I'm not fond of spiders...

Do u believe this website?
I read it and, I just don't know

Originally posted by AgentGirl
Do u believe this website?
I read it and, I just don't know

That's hilarious!!

About Recluses, my brother was bit on two different occasions, twice the first time and the second time once. The bad part about it all was the fact he took them both on the same spot on his leg, all three times. He never felt it any of the times. He has really bad arthritis in that leg. I would say it had a really bad effect on him but he dislocated that knee in Football and never went to the hospital. So there is no real way for me to tell the true problems.

Originally posted by LL1
OMG!
On my leg!?
I could not even be in the same room!
I was wondering about the size of the web, but you clarified that for me.
I envisioned, a web both large enough and strong enough to entangle a human in.
I'm not fond of spiders...

They dont't make webs, they're not spiders as already stated, and as such don't possess silk glands. They're active hunters, and just run prey down.

Think your'll find that no spider webs are around that will entanlge humans.
The strongest ones come from the Nephila family of which the golden silk spider is a member. Oh and yes this is a US species, i'm sure most of our florida residents will recognise them.

No fear though, they don't bite often and even when they do it's only like your adverage bee sting. However they do make BIG webs, in australia its been known for small birds to get tangled up in them for a short time.


Can someone post what that link contained as i just get a network problem with it.

RabidGoose, i feel real sorry for him getting bitten by them is way way way down on my list of things id lilke to happen. I've seen enough pictures of the results from those to give them a very wide birth.

[edit on 14-9-2004 by feygan]

I hate spiders, The are to hard to tell if they can harm you are not. Big Spiders I can deal with.

Spiders are bad this year, they are everywhere, Big for some small spiders.
They eat bugs so thats good, but what sucks is when they drop straight down from the celing in my face. GRRRR..... All the places to drop, they have todo in right in my face.

Can someone post what that link contained as i just get a network problem with it.

here's a sample:

Careful scientific study has led to a different conclusion, the spider screams from its own terror. Screaming Yellow Banana Spiders have been shown conclusively to be terrified of falling and indeed, are uneasy at any height of more than a meter or so. The unbiased observer cannot but feel some measure of pity for this noble, eight-legged beast. It must hunt to live, yet every hunt fills it with abject, primeval terror.

lol... so are you familiar with that "scientific study"?

here's more:

The CIA and Screaming Yellow Banana Spiders

Both during the Vietnam War and afterwards, there have been persistent rumors concerning the CIA and these behemoths of the spider world. One in particular seems to have taken hold. The CIA is alleged to have captured great numbers of the spiders, injected '___' into their venom glands and then to have released them along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The hope apparently being victims would be so disoriented as to be helpless in the face of air attacks