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14 United State Governors : Prepare State Militia Defenses, To Be Ready Against Obama's Rogue Feder

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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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I'm sorry WHAT? I live in one of those states. Did you say WELFARE MONEY ? Sorry darling not getting any of that here. You are working your ass off for me??? Sit down, take a load off, I dont need you to work for me but thanks.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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Pretty cool, I hope the states start doing that.Any state in the US can depart from the union and start their own country if they feel the union is bringing them down. Could be a high possibility in the future where USA is a bunch of different countries.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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ADORABLE ??? I have a hugh hole in the soffit of my house from these adorable creatures wanting to live inside my house with me. It will cost $700.00 to fix it with my husband doing the labor. $1200.00 if he has someone else climb up there to do it.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Rafe_
So is what is mentioned in the OP really going on or not,


Not.
2nd



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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The two party system in this country is a facade.

This recent defense bill was sponsored by both sides.

You can roll both sides up and smoke them



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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The "Americans" of today are to scared, and lazy to have another revolution, and if they did they would be labeled as TERRORIST and placed in some detention facility. There are more people in the US that would rather not see a revolution than people that do.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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If anyone but Ron Paul is elected, nothing will change. It will just continue to get worse. If you believe otherwise you are completely uninformed or in denial.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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If this is true then things are getting real.Its ironic that at the same time that Ron Paul and Newt say they will go to a third party if they loose the primary witch will sinch a win for Obama that this would pop up.

Point being the people would take it really hard knowing that politic's as usual made for another 4 years of Obama and his mancow wife.If that did not tare this country apart I can't imagine what would.

You have to ask the question(like I have on other post's)why would RP or Newt do this knowing that they would not win and it would create a win for Obama...........................unlessssss.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Islamic Brotherhood. In my state? I think this is BS, are we really that afraid of a revolution? People are too comfortable to revolt. Luxuries are too high for people to even make a move.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Your statement is the purest form of self absorption, and a great deal of what is wrong with the attitudes with those who live in the predominantly bureaucrat populated states. Your condescending attitudes toward those with Values, in the South scares you, thus you must somehow assign them with some subhuman disposition reflective of your distaste for them. I would trust a southerner any day over a northerner as far as values and ethics go.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 04:19 PM
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If you really think so, that is your prerogative.



How ever, to those who are interested in knowing, here is some of the material that's been selected in which the spirit of the drafting is inspired by;



Bill of Rights

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people

to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Oath of Enlistment

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and

domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same


The Pledge of Allegiance
1954

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it

stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.



The Economic Bill of Rights

January 11, 1944

Excerpted from Franklin Delano Roosevelt's message to Congress on the State of the Union. This was

proposed not to amend the Constitution, but rather as a political challenge, encouraging Congress to

draft legislation to achieve these aspirations. It is sometimes referred to as the "Second Bill of

Rights."

It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting

peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We

cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of

our people — whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth — is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-

housed, and insecure.

This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain

inalienable political rights — among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial

by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

As our nation has grown in size and stature, however — as our industrial economy expanded — these

political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.

We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without

economic security and independence. "Necessitous men are not free men." People who are hungry and

out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to

speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established

for all — regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the

nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his

family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from

unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and

unemployment;
The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward,

in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar

rights have been carried into practice for our citizens.



www.archives.gov...
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Thomas Jefferson wrote in 1789, "Whenever the people are well-informed, they can be trusted with

their own government."
www.ushistory.org...



Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death

Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace — but there is no

peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears

the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is

it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased

at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take;

but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!


John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address, January 20, 1961

We observe today not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom — symbolizing an end, as well

as a beginning — signifying renewal, as well as change. For I have sworn before you and Almighty God

the same solemn oath our forebears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago.

We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from

this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of

Americans — born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of

our ancient heritage — and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to

which this Nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around

the world.

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any

burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and

the success of liberty.

This much we pledge — and more.

Can we forge against these enemies a grand and global alliance, North and South, East and West, that

can assure a more fruitful life for all mankind? Will you join in that historic effort?


And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your

country.

My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do

for the freedom of man.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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The American's Creed

by William Tyler Page

I believe in the United States of America as a government of the people, by the people, for the

people; whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed, a democracy in a republic, a

sovereign Nation of many sovereign States; a perfect union, one and inseparable; established upon

those principles of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed

their lives and fortunes.

I therefore believe it is my duty to my country to love it, to support its Constitution, to obey

its laws, to respect its flag, and to defend it against all enemies.

–Written 1917, accepted by the United States House of Representatives on April 3, 1918.




President George Washington's Farewell Address — 1796

One method of assault may be to effect, in the forms of the Constitution, alterations which will

impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown.

The spirit of encroachment tends to consolidate the powers of all the departments in one, and thus

to create, whatever the form of government, a real despotism. A just estimate of that love of power,

and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart, is sufficient to satisfy us of the

truth of this position.

The necessity of reciprocal checks in the exercise of political power, by dividing and distributing

it into different depositaries, and constituting each the guardian of the public weal against

invasions by the others, has been evinced by experiments ancient and modern; some of them in our

country and under our own eyes. To preserve them must be as necessary as to institute them. If, in

the opinion of the people, the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any

particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates.

But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of

good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. The precedent must always

greatly overbalance in permanent evil any partial or transient benefit, which the use can at any

time yield.

Promote then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the general diffusion of

knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is

essential that public opinion should be enlightened.


The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political

bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the

separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent

respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to

the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by

their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of

Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just

powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive

of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new

Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to

them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate

that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and

accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are

sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when

a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to

reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such

Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient

sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their

former Systems of Government.





Martin Luther King, Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" Speech

March on Washington, DC, August 28, 1963

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no

time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is

the time to make real the promises of democracy.

Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We

hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal."

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My

country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of

the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring."



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 12:04 AM
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Whew!

All that to give credence to debating "bylaws and charter" to establish a malitia? Is this a malitia of lawyers?


A malitia, according to the dictionary, is: "A military force that engages in rebel activities." It hardly sounds to me that rebels need the pomp and circumstance of a "bylaws and charter".



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by The Sword
 

I'm sorry WHAT? I live in one of those states. Did you say WELFARE MONEY ? Sorry darling not getting any of that here. You are working your ass off for me??? Sit down, take a load off, I dont need you to work for me but thanks.


Actually Karen, I also live in one of those states that takes my tax dollars and gives it to one of your states because apparently my state knows how to make money and your state knows how to ask for it. You sit down. Enjoy a new road or bridge on me.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:29 AM
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Originally posted by romanmel
A malitia, according to the dictionary, is: "A military force that engages in rebel activities." It hardly sounds to me that rebels need the pomp and circumstance of a "bylaws and charter".

How did you find militia in a dictionary if you don't know how to spell it?



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:37 AM
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For the same reason Fred Phelps can continue to spread his hate and ignorance.

Its based on the fact the premis is so absurd that by even discussing it could be taken as giving legitimacy to the absurd.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 05:41 AM
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Actually in addition to local and state taxes, the federal government also has taxes in place... Income, gas etc etc etc. So the money spent in a persons state doesn't necessarily come from you, and the money spent in your state doesn't necessarily come from me.

Its like the argument a person makes when pulled over by the police -
They like to say I pay your taxes. What they fail to realize is the op pays taxes as well, and in essence, pays his own salary.

Just my 2 cents though.

There are time we are individual states, and there are times we are one country. To borrow a line from the West Wing we know this because Arizona alone didn't establish civil rights and New York didn't find in WWII by themselves.

ITs give and take and when it comes to our country, we should do as much as we can to ensure it succeeds.



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 06:04 AM
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If we do the simple math and apply some very basic logic we can see that the only way we will be able to avert pure "open" dictatorship in the USA is a civil war. Of course this is only my opinion but I cannot see another way out.

Even if by some miracle Ron Paul became president without globalist backing it would not make a diffrence because the corporate criminal globalists would commit large numbers of false flags and say "see we told you being weak on terror was a bad idea" or something to this effect.

The globalists know that they have only two options, go to jail or take over the US Government and then the world. They will not want to go to prison so the only option left for them is to take over the government. We have seen the report from Iron mountain documents that shows how false flag ops are used to bring about a NWO. But its going to be far worse than this, unless people decide to take direct action against these criminals then there is going to be no hope for bringing these people to the hague.

We must stop looking at these suits (people in suits) as just businessmen, these people are worse than the mafia, these people are a direct threat to our familes, freinds, the planet and a peaceful future.

They have no choice but to bring in organised chaos for out of chaos they will offer a solution. So personally I expect severe chaos, really bad. If a nazi like regime comes about in the USA and/or UK then I will do my utmost to bring it down even if that means offering my life for truth and justice. I know many of you will feel the same but wont say it for obvious reasons, but I just wanted to let people know, there are people out there willing to sacrifice themselves for freedom. Sorry, rant over



posted on Dec, 18 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by DROKKR
 


If these states revolt, their people won't have any of that welfare money that comes from us folks up North. We work our asses off so the people of these "great" (sic) states can sit on their lazy fat asses.

Let them separate. They won't be missed.


I grew up in PA. Lived their for around 23 years. I have lived in VA or NC for the last 4 years. Of those 3 states, I can say welfare is everywhere. Laziness can be found everywhere. Unfortunatly, laziness isn't always the culprit either. If the controlling elite were removed and we re-covered from the major structure change, a lot of what you are referring to would disapper. Not to mention the territorial hatred I see over and over would eventually cease without the elites fueling wars between us. Have you ever seen the vidoes of how every war was funded by the elite and that means boths sides were funded. I really don't understand you people who think you are better than someone else because of where you live. How about this, get your scared, lazy butt up, go on an advanture to a land you do not know, do not have silly pride in, and get out of you box before someone pees on it and you fall out.



posted on Dec, 19 2011 @ 05:06 PM
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And what state am I in?



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