Atheists Die First

Originally posted by Cinquain

Originally posted by vox2442
Japan is an overwhelmingly atheist country, with the highest life expectancy on the planet.

So there's that theory gone...

Basically what the point of the video was, I believe, that in 'survival type' situations - not just in general. Like the example I gave in the OP, if one was in a situation where your first priority was to survive, like a car accident or similar, those who don't believe in a higher power would be more likely to die first, rather than those who believe.

edit on 14-12-2011 by Cinquain because: (no reason given)

In reality,it is called life.You could be hit by a car tomorrow and die,or you could live to be 100 years old.There is no science,no religion behind it,it's just life,plain and simple.
Like the lion and gazelle.
We are nothing more then a bunch of well organized atoms with a conscience who tend to over think things.

Originally posted by Cinquain
Basically what the point of the video was, I believe, that in 'survival type' situations - not just in general. Like the example I gave in the OP, if one was in a situation where your first priority was to survive, like a car accident or similar, those who don't believe in a higher power would be more likely to die first, rather than those who believe.

Well, maybe since an Atheist doesn't believe in God, in a life or death situation they're more likely to sacrifice themselves for others since friends and family members mean more to them than some deity somewhere and their abstract notions of good and evil. Or not.

"Most studies on survivors show that aethists die first!"

What a stupidly vague statement!

Which studies?..........what was the make up of the study group? Who took part in these studies?

and If the person is died then how can you sure he/she was an aetheist.........was he interviewed after death........or did a someone ask a grieving relative.........excuse me for asking but was your husband/wife an aetheist:

Originally posted by Cinquain

Basically what the point of the video was, I believe, that in 'survival type' situations - not just in general. Like the example I gave in the OP, if one was in a situation where your first priority was to survive, like a car accident or similar, those who don't believe in a higher power would be more likely to die first, rather than those who believe.

Well even that explanation falls a bit short, If you were in a plane crash and landed in the jungle, the ones that would survive are the ones that got out of the plane and looked for a source of water and then followed that river or stream......until they reached help...........those that chose to stay put and prayed that God would save them would most likely perish.

Originally posted by Logical one
and If the person is died then how can you sure he/she was an aetheist.........was he interviewed after death........or did a someone ask a grieving relative.........excuse me for asking but was your husband/wife an aetheist

I'm thinking that there are probably some Athiests who will on their deathbed proclaim their belief in God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit and whatever else you got, just so it will get the annoying pious clergy and bone-rattling religious folks to stop praying, get out of the room, and let them die in peace.

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"Well even that explanation falls a bit short, If you were in a plane crash and landed in the jungle, the ones that would survive are the ones that got out of the plane and looked for a source of water and then followed that river or stream......until they reached help...........those that chose to stay put and prayed that God would save them would most likely perish"

Actually in this scenario the atheist still dies 1st. he would be out numbered by the religious and when they got hungry they would eat the atheist.


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If this is true, it would make sense. An atheist is likely to live a "more fun" life, which is probably going to be a less healthy life style. But really, hanging on a few years longer isn't much of a prize IMO, it's better to burn out than to fade away.

Originally posted by OMsk3ptic
If this is true, it would make sense. An atheist is likely to live a "more fun" life, which is probably going to be a less healthy life style.

How did you come up with that?

Originally posted by Blue Shift
I'm thinking that there are probably some Athiests who will on their deathbed proclaim their belief in God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit and whatever else you got, just so it will get the annoying pious clergy and bone-rattling religious folks to stop praying, get out of the room, and let them die in peace.

LOL That's funny.

"Yeah - whatever" - "Now go away"

Originally posted by Logical one
Which studies?..........what was the make up of the study group? Who took part in these studies?

Exactly. And studies are not free.

Who paid for the study?

The will/adrenaline to survive, put into physical action with a mental prayer, or thought of hope makes the karma wheel will spin..


See what you get.

Originally posted by LightWarrior11
The will/adrenaline to survive, put into physical action with a mental prayer, or thought of hope makes the karma wheel will spin..


See what you get.

NO

I've been looking myself to see which studies she was referring to, and found this response

But, not one to ignore possibilities, I did remind viewers that science doesn’t have all the answers and that studies show that in some survivor situations “atheists die first because if they don’t believe in anything supernatural, they can’t imagine that they have supernatural abilities.”

This was live TV shorthand and the survivor studies I alluded to are “medical” survivor studies. I forgot the word “medical.” For this, I deeply apologize.

from her blog, where you can read her entire response and apology. Apparently she got slammed by atheists and religious folk alike.

Originally posted by Cinquain
I've been looking myself to see which studies she was referring to, and found this response

But, not one to ignore possibilities, I did remind viewers that science doesn’t have all the answers and that studies show that in some survivor situations “atheists die first because if they don’t believe in anything supernatural, they can’t imagine that they have supernatural abilities.”

This was live TV shorthand and the survivor studies I alluded to are “medical” survivor studies. I forgot the word “medical.” For this, I deeply apologize.

from her blog, where you can read her entire response and apology. Apparently she got slammed by atheists and religious folk alike.

That's even more confusing.

What does it mean?

Originally posted by vox2442
Japan is an overwhelmingly atheist country, with the highest life expectancy on the planet.

So there's that theory gone...

Um.... is that the same Japan as the one that has their nuclear reactors all exposed and threatening it's peoples very existence not only as a nation but quite possibly as a race ? Ya the one thats going to release monkeys
to go and test the radiation ? That one ?

Yeah ok?

reply to post by Annee

This was live TV shorthand and the survivor studies I alluded to are “medical” survivor studies. I forgot the word “medical.”

What does she mean?

She means she was talking about survival rates for people with potentially fatal illnesses.

And as far as that goes, she is right. ‘Survival’ and recovery rates for people who believe in a higher power are in fact better than they are for atheists. ‘Survival’, incidentally, means living for a defined period, usually five years, after being diagnosed with a life-threatening illness.

Apparently faith is good for the immune system.

I’m not going to bother substantiating this, because it’s actually quite well established and no-one really contests it. There have been several studies. The results check out.

That was a really stupid mistake for the woman to make, though. If it’s a sample of her professional diligence, I’m not at all surprised she was struck off.

Originally posted by Cinquain

Originally posted by vox2442
Japan is an overwhelmingly atheist country, with the highest life expectancy on the planet.

So there's that theory gone...

Basically what the point of the video was, I believe, that in 'survival type' situations - not just in general. Like the example I gave in the OP, if one was in a situation where your first priority was to survive, like a car accident or similar, those who don't believe in a higher power would be more likely to die first, rather than those who believe.

edit on 14-12-2011 by Cinquain because: (no reason given)

I don't understand that logic.

I'm an atheist. 100%. No half bets, no wistful notions of a higher power, none of it.

As such, I truly believe that my life is all that I get. After this, there's nothing. When I go, that's it. And I live my life, and I cherish my life, accordingly. Because it's mine.

What on earth would make someone think that I -or any other similarly minded atheist- would be willing to just give up, especially when compared to someone with a firm belief in an afterlife?

It seems to me the person to pack it in would be the person who thinks they've got somewhere to go...

Originally posted by randyvs
Um.... is that the same Japan as the one that has their nuclear reactors all exposed and threatening it's peoples very existence not only as a nation but quite possibly as a race ? Ya the one thats going to release monkeys
to go and test the radiation ? That one ?

Yeah ok?

Yes, that's the only Japan I'm aware of. Why?

Originally posted by Cinquain

Originally posted by vox2442
Japan is an overwhelmingly atheist country, with the highest life expectancy on the planet.

So there's that theory gone...

Basically what the point of the video was, I believe, that in 'survival type' situations - not just in general. Like the example I gave in the OP, if one was in a situation where your first priority was to survive, like a car accident or similar, those who don't believe in a higher power would be more likely to die first, rather than those who believe.

Get an atheist soldier or survivalist. Get a religious school teacher. Put them in a survival situation and see who lives the longest. It's a very simple experiment that when repeated will show that a persons chances of survival simply come down to how much skill and knowledge they have about survival, as well as their physical build, their strength and stamina, their state of health, etc.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by randyvs
Um.... is that the same Japan as the one that has their nuclear reactors all exposed and threatening it's peoples very existence not only as a nation but quite possibly as a race ? Ya the one thats going to release monkeys
to go and test the radiation ? That one ?

Yeah ok?

Yes, that's the only Japan I'm aware of. Why?

Obviously that person is trying to say that Japanese people wont be living so long for much longer. That poster is actually implying that the Christian God is punishing them for their lack of faith. Just a little bit of a clean up, or a cleansing if you will. Such wickedness needs to be wiped away.