NTSB Recommends Ban On Driver Cell Phone Use

Originally posted by camaro68ss
one person screws up and they ban it from the rest of us.

It's not one person.

Every other driver I see is clogging up the roadway due to texting or talking on a phone. I see it repeatedly, every damn day. Our roadways are full with zombies.

I agree with this. No cellphones or electronics in cars. Either that, are start revoking drivers licenses left and right. There are far too many people, who put others at risk when driving, simply because of their electronics, or they're hopped up on meds, or just so damn oblivious to everything around them, they never should have gotten a license in the first place. Get them all off the road, please!

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by jessejamesxx
As long as they don't look up your phone history when they pull you over to see if you were just on the phone/texting.. Isn't this the next logical step?

They already do that if you are involved in an accident.

So yes, you're right.

Oh wow, I had no idea. Is it only if someone's hurt?

Would suck royally if they started matching up red light camera photos with cell phone logs, or something to that effect.

Originally posted by Vardoger
Handheld devices are already banned in BC and for good reason. It's scary as **** driving behind someone texting on their phone. There have been studies done (I AM NOT going to source it for you if you're to lazy to look it up) that shows talking/texting while driving is comparable, if not worse ,for some people, than being drunk.

I do not doubt there have been studies done about this very problem.

However, suggesting someone is lazy, because you're not going to source it?

You're just showing others you're not willing to work as a team to investigate.

Yes, Yahoo, Google, or other search engines can provide that data easily to anyone willing.

But we're supposed to be a community and assist each other.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
I figured the Americans would already have a ban on this. In Canada it's not allowed, people still do it though. It's like a speeding ticket if you get caught.

Unfortunately, studies needed to be done, laws needed to be researched.

The N.T.S.B. is one of those organizations that covers it ass.

Nothing they do is without tons of research, traffic statistics, and deaths being documented.

They are after all one of the more powerful organizations in our nation.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
This is as well I believe a push towards those cars, through one small political push, with the sync up of your cell phone, so that we have our every movement tracked by not only OnStar, but cell phone towers, in order to triangulate our whereabouts.

Wait, you are already triangulated with your cell phone. I used Google Maps on my Blackberry, and when I activate it, and before GPS kicks in, it would show my approximate triangulated position. If you mean that such info will be made public -- I'm less than sure.

I am specifically referencing being triangulated with cell phones and cars simultaneously.

You're X amount of feet from your car and Y amount of distance from your home.

Brings a whole new meaning to being stalked via electronics doesn't it?

Is Your Government Stalking You? Stalk Them Back Via Verichip ...

One step closer to the Mark of the Beast if you ask me.

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Let us hope there were no children on that School Bus.

There were two buses, one semi I believe, and a pick up involved and yes, kids were on both buses. One girl lost her life and several others badly injured.

Originally posted by camaro68ss
one person screws up and they ban it from the rest of us.

That is the nanny state way. Instead of severe punishment for the one who committed the offense, they punish everybody in order "to be fair". Freedom requires personal responsibility for your actions. Nobody wants the responsibility, but you cannot long have one without the other.

Originally posted by 46ACE

All for it! On a motorcycle you watch drivers closely. I have never been closer to becoming"road pizza" than when sharing the road with cellphone yakking"(young,... female... )people.

Inthis case "there oughta' be a law" and I hate laws in general..

Face it(!) all you "knee drivers" you CAN'T stop texting.

Just like I can't seem to keep from coming back here;( daily) just to see which incoming comet is "cloaked" and gonna unleash the alien invasion!

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I'm not saying I do not believe there should be a law in regards to this problem.

However, we as citizens need to investigate where those laws intersect, with other laws.

One law meshes with another law and sooner than later all your rights are taken away.

A simplified example but I think you catch what I mean.

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl
If you can't do hands-free talking on the cell phone, then can you speak to your passengers?

It's a bit embarrassing, but I admit I was in a very minor accident once because I was talking to my mom (who was in the passenger seat) and got distracted. It was getting dark and harder to gauge the distance, and apparently I wasn't paying just enough attention. Thankfully, it was a slight bump against the other vehicle's fender, no damage.
Oftentimes, when I feel driving conditions become difficult, I ask people in the car to keep quiet. It became a norm in my family.

Originally posted by camaro68ss
one person screws up and they ban it from the rest of us.

You shouldn't be talking on a cell or texting on a cell period while driving. It's dangerous! There are many instances where this has happened and could have been avoided!

Is there anything that important that can't wait til you arrive at your destination? If so then pull over, why risk other peoples lives?

If I use my cell while driving it's usually during long drives (and that isn't often) and I use a handsfree set so Im not distracted with a handset in my hand.

However I got rid of my cell so I wont need to worry about this but i do have to worry about people on the road that do it.

Where I live I know a girl who was fighting with her BF on the phone in the rain and she hit a GAS tanker which in turn flipped both off the overpass in a firey ball, killing both instantly. The man she killed had a family at home and he was just driving doing his job. I knew this girl and I feel bad for her family but she should have been more careful and not been on a phone in the rain! So for her carelessness she lost her life and a family is without a father.

It's not ruing it for the rest of it, it's a safety issue. I see soooo many people on their phones not paying attention swerving in lanes and so on. I was almost hit by a lady texting on her phone NOT paying attention.

Amongst other things I do is installing hands free car kits for my work.When the ban on using mobile phones while driving came into force in the UK a few years ago I was VERY VERY busy for a few months,then it went back to "normal" again.A lot of the people who had them installed were only getting it done to show the police they had it there but would still use it as before if they got stopped by holding it up to their ear.Crazy considering that Bluetooth means we no longer need to slide the phone into a cradle any more and all the connecting to the car kit and disconnecting is 100% taken care of automatically.Nowadays most of my customers only get them fitted after they've been caught using a phone while driving.

Although I have a Bluetooth phone and a Pioneer radio with it also built in,it's always switched off now and the only time the phone is used while driving is for the sat nav.

Chris.

So this will mean police cant fool with their laptops in traffic as well...
The use of electronic scanning technology RFID to see whether you are carrying insurance-or have expired registration..will also be considered cheating.


If you wish us to obey you have to as well--I dont care if you are Jesus or satan or own the planet. gfy

1) Distracted driving is already an offense. Do we really need to take up limitless volumes specifically listing every single distraction?

2) In states where this ban has been enacted there has not been a decrease in use while driving incidents so what's the point?

3) Traffic fatalities are at an all time low.

4) In states where this ban has been enacted the "beautiful people" are under no obligation to abide such as politicians and cops. Have they had extreme phone training or something?

5) In car radio communication via FM, HAM or CB is not affected in states prohibiting cell phones use. Are radio operators especially trained for driving while chatting? Driving while tuning a signal? No, they arent. So why the inconsistent exception?

no reduction in collisions

laws banning cell phone use have no affect

phone bans dont reduce accidents

traffic fatalities at all-time low

So why should I support such a measure? Any real concrete reason that isnt based on fear and fantasy?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

 

Because it will totally stop people from using their phones while driving. Just like Prohibition stopped drinking, and The War On Drugs stops pot smokers.

Yes, but it only took the over-indulgence of alcohol, and a bunch of pissed off women to push Prohibition.

And Prohibition II, or the War on Drugs, is nothing but a repeat of stupid history.

By stupid history I am referring to history which never should have happened.

Nothing more than a means to over-inflate an illegal product and profit via both sides off of it.

Before long OnStar will report your actions of driving and texting and the Police will arrest you.

OnStar already monitors everything you say and every place you go.

Your paying for the service is only a means to offer you a service to go with the intrusion.

Remember back in the day when cars had those big ugly antennas for the AM/FM radio on the front fender?


Why did they do that?


To protect the passengers from radiation. The further you are from the radio station, the harder your radio works to pull in a signal and the more radiation around the antenna.

If you have a cell phone, the further YOU are from a cell tower....the harder your cellphone has to work to receive a signal....emitting more radiation.....to you.

I have a feeling the Japanese cars going full throttle on their own....had drivers using cell phones and they were very far from cell towers. The immense radiation emitted from their cell phones were messing with Toyota's car electronics...making the car go full throttle.

The Fed's are liable for damages, I bet Toyota filed a claim against the US.....resulting in the Federal Government having to ban cell phone use while driving. It never was safe.

Originally posted by camaro68ss
one person screws up and they ban it from the rest of us.

One person? Thats a funny one.

I see with my own eyes, multiple times a week, idiots on their cell phones having near-collisions with other motorists due to blabbing and texting on their phones.

I myself have almost been rear-ended several times in just the last couple years. These blabbing and texting FOOLS are so involved in their conversations, that after they locked their brakes up behind me and swerve off the road (while I am already stopped at a stop-light or a stop sign), they are STILL FOCUSED 100% on their conversation that they dont even put the phone down for a moment while they get their senses back and pull back onto the road!! UNACCEPTABLE!!

Humans have existed for a VERY long time without requiring the use of a cell phone while driving. There is NO NEED whatsoever for it. You need to talk or text, PULL OVER and STOP RISKING THE LIVES OF OTHER MOTORISTS AROUND YOU!!!!!!

Talking on the cell phone while driving is NO BETTER than chugging down a bottle of whiskey while driving. I honestly think that the drunks drive more safely than the IDIOTS blabbing and typing away on their cell phones.

They need to BAN this nonsense ASAP!!!!

ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by superluminal11
So this will mean police cant fool with their laptops in traffic as well...

There was a case not too long ago across the river in Illinois where a state trooper was texting on his phone while going over 100MPH. He hit a car and killed two sisters. Both just teenage kids. He lived of course.

Originally posted by Pervius
Remember back in the day when cars had those big ugly antennas for the AM/FM radio on the front fender?


Why did they do that?


To protect the passengers from radiation. The further you are from the radio station, the harder your radio works to pull in a signal and the more radiation around the antenna.

If you have a cell phone, the further YOU are from a cell tower....the harder your cellphone has to work to receive a signal....emitting more radiation.....to you.

Wrong,they had the ugly big aerials because in those days it was almost entirely AM or MW radio that needed an aerial that was too long to put on the roof as we do now for the FM band.
They are just receiving aerials and as such don't radiate any sort of signal,any radio receiver has a function called AGC (Automatic Gain Control) in it that automatically increases the gain of the RF front end when tuned to weak signals,and attenuates it when tuned to very strong signals.

Sorry but no radiation and no chance of harming the passengers inside the vehicle from any legal radio receiver.

Chris.

Yeah, this will totally stop people from being distracted by their hand held gadgets while driving! NOT! We all ready have "hands free only" laws here, which I've been against from the start.

Think about it for a sec...what does requiring a "hands free" device actually do to a driver? It frees up a hand for YET ANOTHER distraction, so now they can talk on the phone, put on makeup and smoke at the same time. Ridiculous!

And nobody stops using their cellphone while driving anyway. Not even the police.

Banning it outright will be just another stupid law that nobody cares to follow or enforce, just like all the other similar stupid laws designed to protect us from ourselves.

Reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

I dont see how it could limit your freedom of speech, you can still speak, though it would limit you from being heard... kidding


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