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Aliens are NOT here.

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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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How do you know they didn't in the past some time. And have been directing the world governments in their movements for centuries or millennia? Maybe they were revealed thousands of years ago...but today only the so-called "elite" get to actually know of their existence?



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 09:37 PM
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All I have to say it research Roswell



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by MystikMunk
Zzz Zzz Zzz

Don't mean to be rude, but you haven't said anything we haven't already heard a million times over! Do you really think we need another one of these threads??

Could you not have just commented on the countless other threads out there??



and how many threads about "Aliens are here,"
"Andromeda Council,"
"Space Families", and " Random Terribad UFO Sightings/Story" are there? Somehow I doubt you posted your above opinion in any of the above threads.


OP welcome to the insane amount of "bias" of AboveTopSecret.


I am also having my doubts.



edit on 12-12-2011 by StarPeace because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 12 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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Already happened, and I see by your profile that you posted that you saw a UFO, posted on 8/7/11 @ 08:23 PM. Thread
That being said, I think first you should read the thread by our own esteemed member Sleeper:
Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Then perhaps you may like to read his book on the matter:
A Day with an Extraterrestrial

Then perhaps you would like to see what the NSA says about ETs and UFOs:
National Security Agency UFO Documents Index

And finally, our visitor from Venus, who lived at the White House, and then left in his spacecraft:
Valiant Thor from the Planet Venus

After that, if you are still adamant that there are not other life out there, consider this: Every time the Hubble positions and takes a picture, it can see 100 trillion stars. Move the telescope one inch, it sees another 100 trillion stars.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 01:44 AM
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"Aliens" are definitely real but they aren't intergalactic (space traveling) as everyone seems to think they are. They are not from some other planet in another solar system that would take LIGHT thousands of years to get to. They are inter-dimensional and they are here and have always been here. That is why they seem to be able to break the laws of physics. What they really are, are either Fallen Angels, (demons) or hybrids of man and Fallen Angels. They are "coming back" (probably after the world turns to fecal matter) to deceive mankind into thinking they are our creators and have come to save us. It is a lie, intended to make you worship them rather than Yahweh God.

The reason I'm saying this is not to convince any "unbelievers" to believe in the Bible (although if I did that would be wonderful). Either way it's a moot point altogether. A person will believe what they believe, period. The whole point of this is that IF you survive that long and IF "aliens" do come back claiming to have created us and our religions, then maybe it will raise a red flag in your head and maybe you"ll remember what that weird religious guy on ATS told you and maybe, just maybe, you'll make the right decision and believe in the real God and his only Son. But hey, I'm just throwing that out there.


That being said, I believe what I believe. So trying to convince me otherwise is, in itself a moot point. If I'm right, then I'm right. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. No harm, no foul. But if I am right then you at least have the necessary information to make the right decision. God Bless.


Oh yeah, and don't take the chip.
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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 03:33 AM
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In response to the rather juvenile posting I just read I would like to answer with the following comments: So you're sure aliens have the abilities to cloak themselves and make themselves invisible. Well maybe they can and maybe they can't. I'm pretty sure this would defy your explanation as you would be unable to explain the science of how this would or would not be possible. Therefore your first assumption is totally unfounded and weak. Secondly, the fact that there HAS been documented sightings for not just decades but thousands of years seems to contradict your technological insight regarding the science of which you know nothing about. As for them going to a big city such as New York and just announcing themselves, well that apparently isn't in their current agenda, and I imagine for good reason. The fact that you believe in the possibility of life on other planets shows a certain amount of maturity on your part, but you're unwillingness to keep an open mind regarding their possible earlier visits to this planet would be not only denying volumes of contradictory information, but would also shed an embarrassing light on your own naivety and childlike self-centeredness. If they were watching us, we may or may not have any idea. The odds are against them being infallible, and nor do they perhaps want to entirely escape our observation. So telling people to cut the bulloo seems more like a childlike statement to put yourself on a pedestal as if you knew what you were talking about. "Aliens are not here," you say, despite a plethora of contradictory evidence. As if you really knew, my friend. How do you know Joe wasn't abducted and implanted, and 10,000 others just like him. And as for whether or not they've crashed here or not, maybe they have, and maybe they haven't. I'm sure no ships or saucers were made invincible right off the assembly line. Just some food for thought.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:28 AM
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Originally posted by autowrench
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Already happened, and I see by your profile that you posted that you saw a UFO, posted on 8/7/11 @ 08:23 PM. Thread
That being said, I think first you should read the thread by our own esteemed member Sleeper:
Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Then perhaps you may like to read his book on the matter:
A Day with an Extraterrestrial

No. Never once did I claim that it was an alien, so If you read the thread you'll see that I was just curious to what it was.
No I haven't the time to read anything like that, I have a busy hectic life.
Never once have I said that I don't believe in aliens. You would be very silly, in my opinion, to think that we are alone in This universe. I think that there's probebley thousands of civilisations out there. So get your facts right before accusing me, thanks.
Then perhaps you would like to see what the NSA says about ETs and UFOs:
National Security Agency UFO Documents Index

And finally, our visitor from Venus, who lived at the White House, and then left in his spacecraft:
Valiant Thor from the Planet Venus

After that, if you are still adamant that there are not other life out there, consider this: Every time the Hubble positions and takes a picture, it can see 100 trillion stars. Move the telescope one inch, it sees another 100 trillion stars.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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What if there are aliens on the Moon or Mars or Jupiter or Titan or Venus?
What then?Then, it's not too difficult to imagine that Aliens are here?

Your thought is pretty limited...And this kind of thinking is becoming really annoying



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:04 AM
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Being so self assured is literally speaking from a position of zero experiential knowledge, and completely sells anything that you have to say...short. Please don't try to define reality for the rest of the world when yours is barely in order.

Thanks...



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:11 AM
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actually they do have a perfect cloaking technology, but when they reveal themselves, they do that on purpose, probably to troll primitive cavemen civilization like us, sort of universal intergalactic joke



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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Not millions of light-years--maybe 50 at most. Wikipedia lists 49 sunlike stars besides the Sun within 51 light-years. And yes, it seems likely that dead or live aliens that crashed would be retrieved by their cohorts rather than allow them to fall into the hands of humans. Androids, maybe.

Solar analog

But just saying no aliens doesn't clarify whether you think there are no UFOs. Several governments have admitted that there are strange things flying around that can be seen, photographed, and detected on radar, and that appear to maneuver evasively in a superior fashion. But they are loath to say that they are alien in origin when other possibilities exist, as are many people who have had clear sightings.

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 08:18 AM
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First of all they are not ET, they are ED

They do not come here to just butcher our cows and draw circles in cornfields.

They are here to decieve many and steal our souls.

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matthew 10:28 KJV



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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Not another one.
Your title lured me in.
So, you got any proof they ain't here?
If it's your opinion then there's like a ton of threads just like yours with no substance, not even the proof of the claim in the title.
You could always chip in to discussion on those many, many threads.

What a waste of time.
Thank's.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:26 AM
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this is just ignorant. just because oxygen is invisible must mean it doesn't exist as well. that's pretty much what you're saying. this universe is so massive and vast that it is impossible for aliens not to exist. can you even comprehend how insignificant you are, along with everyone else on this planet, and the planet as well. you seriously need to shed the delusions about believing in something until you know the utter truth.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:45 AM
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you do realize there has already been thousands of these threads right? No S&F from me.. you research is nonexistent and this is an opinion not at all a fact.

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posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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Even Captain Kirk lost the Enterprise.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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The opening post is nothing more than appeal to probability.



posted on Dec, 13 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by StarPeace

Originally posted by MystikMunk
Zzz Zzz Zzz

Don't mean to be rude, but you haven't said anything we haven't already heard a million times over! Do you really think we need another one of these threads??

Could you not have just commented on the countless other threads out there??



and how many threads about "Aliens are here,"
"Andromeda Council,"
"Space Families", and " Random Terribad UFO Sightings/Story" are there? Somehow I doubt you posted your above opinion in any of the above threads.


OP welcome to the insane amount of "bias" of AboveTopSecret.


I am also having my doubts.



edit on 12-12-2011 by StarPeace because: (no reason given)


Just where in my post have i displayed any kind of bias?

The "Aliens are here" and "We are not being visited" type threads (a couple of paragraphs long with no evidence to back up the OP) that seem to be making a weekly appearance just need to stop. They just go round and round in circles accomplishing nothing, so why even bother?



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