10,000 year old Italian cave painting of aliens?

reply to post by lifeform11


If I was around 10,000 years ago and was going to carve something in stone or paint on it, I would have drawn it on something else first, so that I knew exactly what I was carving or painting. I'm sure the symbol was important and had several meanings if it was important enough to take the time to it.

reply to post by isyeye


o.k. that is possible. but what do you see when it is upside down?

I think this picture reinforces this theory.

Basically, all these bizarre ancient paintings and petroglyphs found worldwide, strangely similar, represent things the people were seeing with their own eyes in the sky.

The planets were not always in the same orbits they are now. There was a time when the Earth, Mercury, Mars, and Uranus were all orbiting the Sun in a stack with Saturn, and the whole thing was blazing with plasma. The snakes at the top represent the plasma outpouring from Saturn's north pole, which would form a double or triple trident like formation. The owl like eyes are part of the plasma toroid around the whole thing. The smaller figure in front of the larger one is Mars encased in plasma outpouring from Saturn all the way to the Earth, forming the legendary Tree of Life. Uranus being at a 90 degree axis inclination to everything else, and being above Saturn while Mercury, Mars and Earth were below, would appear and disappear behind Saturn, and the axial tilt would cause it's plasma envelope to appear as a bird's beak behind the head of Saturn.

This theory explains a lot of things. A big one, that never seems to be raised in any discussion, is stories of creation. Take the bible for example. In the beginning, etc. etc. No one ever asks, if there were no PEOPLE around to witness these things, and they didn't get created till later, WHO WAS THERE TO SEE IT AND TELL THE STORY? If there were no people around, how can anyone believe any story in any way about what happened BEFORE there were any people?

All the creation stories were witnessed firsthand.

I'm sure no one will bother reading that link, because it is VERY long. Not a two minute youtube video. But it's pretty intense.

Originally posted by star in a jar
Seems like the Hollow Earth Theory to me, where there is a entrance at the north pole, and the south pole is depicted as being Ice- covered

Could represent the inner Earth.

That's actually a good connection. Are there any records of ancient Italians believing in a hollow earth? I imagine this predates the Roman civilization, so I wouldn't expect it to have to do anything with Greco-Roman mythology. However, the figures around the central two seem to be human. I make this connection only based on the shapes of their noses. These look like Roman noses lol.

reply to post by isyeye


Looks like an alien creating a rebirthed human the human has lungs. or it could be a rendition of the mother goddess gifting the world with her son Horus. or it could be a number of things. Good find Op.

Originally posted by new_here

Originally posted by pot8er
Just read the beak on the top people comment, above that's quite bizarre.Bird heads, to me would imply people from the sky.

Yes, and notice the "talon-hands" of the birdmen, while the central figures have exactly five digits fingers carefully depicted on each hand.

Is it at all possible that during evolution (if you believe in it) that a form of humanoid actually did have beaks, talons and wings, but then became extinct?

Geez, I'm beginning to think anything is possible at this point! I've pretty much given up on expecting TPTB to pony up with 'the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth' --if they even know it.

Forgive me for sounding stupid, but what is TPTB?

I''m convinced that depicts ET abduction. He's holding the man. Creeps me right out.

OK, I can see how this may look alien to people. (Like the many others)
But think about it, we have no idea what ancient people were trying to depict.
It could be a crude depiction of a leader. It could be a crude depiction of something religious in nature.
Hell some dude could of had a weird dream and drew it on a cave wall.

The painting in the OP looks to me, to be a mother holding a newborn child, with the family surrounding her.
Or possibly a deity of some sort protecting the artist from evil.
I didn't think alien when I saw the painting, even though the title suggests it.

Im sorry but that photo is fake, ie not a real cave drawing at all, the description of that photo was ment for the real carving here


I would imagine the photo the OP posted is circa 2000 AD

As can be seen here REAL PIC with picture and description.

This cave painting looks like hunter's art, magical symbols for the hunt.like a calendar ..Maybe the painting in the middle is a figure of birth and rebirth and used for ceremonial purposes..I don't think this has anything to do with aliens..Just a thought peace,sugarcookie1

Snakes represent immortality, because they shed skin. That has been their symbology for a long time.
Turtles likely represent age, or the slow movement of time.
The circle represents the land, that we must live on.
The stars represent the heavens we will become part of.
The people at the top represent the forefathers. The seven arms may represent 7 days, like 7 days of creation, or a creation story of sorts.
The person holding the person within may be representative of God, since His mind is open to the forefathers, the stars, time, immortality.
The arms show God guiding man through life on Earth.
The snake at the bottom is 3 snakes in 1, sort of a Trinity of some kind. One of the snakes is deadly. The two snakes at the top are deadly. The God is protecting us from the deadly snakes.
Just sayin.'
Your thoughts?

Originally posted by sugarcookie1
This cave painting looks like hunter's art, magical symbols for the hunt.like a calendar ..Maybe the painting in the middle is a figure of birth and rebirth and used for ceremonial purposes..I don't think this has anything to do with aliens..Just a thought

peace,sugarcookie1

I don't see anything "alien" about it. It looks like a pretty plain representation of a symbolic mother figure, and the other figures probably had some other kind of symbolic meaning also. It's art. Since when does art have to be so literal?

Its a fake man.....why do people so blindly accept whatever is put in front of them, this was drawn yesterday not 10,000 years ago. Before you accept anything (Visual or Audio) do some research and make sure its real, If you cant prove its real then it probably isn't.

My mother always said, "Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see and the world shall never pull the cover over your eyes".

So basically, you're saying if you don't believe it's aliens then you will eventually?

What people forget is that it's pretty difficult drawing and painting at the best of times, let alone without that which we've learned from the renaissance masters etc.

This could simply represent a mother holding a female child, the 'lungs' could very well be breasts as there were no wonder bras back then.

Snakes are extremely prevalent in Italy. Currently there is only one that can kill you, the viper. It is greatly feared yet few people ever see them but respect is paid to their power even today. The longer grass snakes could very well be edible and a source of food in times gone by. As with turtles (much easier/safer to catch too, perhaps).

That they've looked into the sky and seen the sun, the moon, stars and represented those in their drawing.

Why could the larger figure not be a representation of an imaginary protector. As we tell children nowadays that they have angels etc watching over them, why not back then too?

The beings have five fingers and toes, 2 eyes, a nose, two legs, two arms, torsos. Very like us. It's always interesting that we jump straight to the alien being rather than human first.

The drawee probably had some form of clothing and that is what the dark outline could represent.

It could represent everything inside the centre figure's mind that's important to it.

Really, go out and try drawing on a rock, I can't draw eyes with a pen and paper, this dude did pretty well with representing humans with stone, don't you think?

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In a way it reminds me of the hollow earth theory but also of the Expanding Earth Theory! Mother Earth is pregnant and she's about to blow!

Now that i think about that...What if the Expanding Earth Theory is correct?

Are all these Earthquakes and volcanic activity due to the Earth Expanding?

To me that makes sense..any other opinions?

Just a quick reply before I go to university

I live in Milan (quite close to Val Camonica), and as I am aware of there are no caves there, this is what we are talking about (google translation 4tw)
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There are actually some misterious paintings but they are on rocks, no caves at all (ofc i might be wrong).

I never heard about that draw before, to be honest, such draw seems to be too sophisticated for 10.000 BC men

Originally posted by isyeye
I've seen this picture referenced a few times, but does anyone know more about it?
Are there actual pictures of the cave painting?

I'm sure this has been discussed already on ATS, but I couldn't find more information searching.

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This cave painting is c.10,000 BC and is from Val Camonica, Italy.
It appears to depict two beings in protective suits holding strange implements.

It looks like a women who is a member of a snake clan is giving birth and is supported by her tribe. This kind of theme being a person with a totem and showing other members of the tribe isn't uncommon,

No it's not aliens. If it's a real painting it's just early mans photo album.

Actually it looks very Australian Aboriginal even right down to the turtles.

Australian Aboriginal rock art.

reply to post by Blue Shift


Maybe my opinion of art is different then yours..I'm just stateing what i think it looks like take it or leave it peace,sugarcookie1

Not sure if this was said yet... but made me think of the biological suit the alien had in independence day.

reply to post by isyeye


Interesting pic and thread thanks OP. This kind of thing from various sites around the world certainly gives you pause for thought.

However, something i have always wondered about such pictures, surely it is possible that the artists were simply rubbish at drawing? Like any other walk of life, i firmly believe that some will have been drawn by skilled artists and some by people more like, well, me!