Im looking for someone who is a professional photographer...is there anyone here????

Originally posted by eeks4
this is bobby...

i hope this came out...here he is again..

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Just assume there's no demons - try it for a few weeks. Really try and believe it, it doesn't take anything away from a belief in Jesus or God. Then have another look at the pics and the recordings. I'm really quite convinced this wouldn't be happening if you had no belief in the supernatural, you'd just see what the rest of us have seen. If you can't manage that then try looking for angels rather than demons - you may find them as well.

Stop feeding the lunatics or they will keep coming back.

How did she take a pic and stay on the phone? Here is a clue.

1.She used a digital camera.
2.thats not your daughter, your a troll feeding off the kind and gullible people on here.
or
3.thats a demon monkey leg holding a demon phone to your daughters ear while she takes a picture of herself.

There are no words exploitative enough to vent my frustration at the stupidity of this.

reply to post by TiM3LoRd


I dunno they seem pretty sincere, If i can get her to realise it's all in her mind then i've done a public service. No point bashing someone about belief - better to try and show them the error of their ways. Besides you know this is ATS right - there's kooks a plenty.

Admittedly I'm probably wasting my time though

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by TiM3LoRd

 

I dunno they seem pretty sincere, If i can get her to realise it's all in her mind then i've done a public service. No point bashing someone about belief - better to try and show them the error of their ways. Besides you know this is ATS right - there's kooks a plenty.

Admittedly I'm probably wasting my time though

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first they say the blue things is someones jeans and then they dont know what it is. inconsistency EEEERRRRRRR!!! Fail.

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
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I dunno they seem pretty sincere, If i can get her to realise it's all in her mind then i've done a public service. No point bashing someone about belief - better to try and show them the error of their ways. Besides you know this is ATS right - there's kooks a plenty.

Admittedly I'm probably wasting my time though

edit on 11-12-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)

first they say the blue things is someones jeans and then they dont know what it is. inconsistency EEEERRRRRRR!!! Fail.

Oh i agree but i think she's ( sorry to speak about the poster in the third person) a bit dellusional. She's projecting her belief about demons onto really bad photo's. I suspect that this is in some way comforting to her as it validates her belief in God and the Chruch she attends. No demons = no God in her mind so she's desperate to prove it to someone else so she has confirmation- thus validating her belief in God. Personally , i find these sort of perceptual deviations quite interesting as they show how belief distorts reality.

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd
Stop feeding the lunatics or they will keep coming back.

How did she take a pic and stay on the phone? Here is a clue.

1.She used a digital camera.
2.thats not your daughter, your a troll feeding off the kind and gullible people on here.
or
3.thats a demon monkey leg holding a demon phone to your daughters ear while she takes a picture of herself.

There are no words exploitative enough to vent my frustration at the stupidity of this.

how cute..dont own a camra anymore....how you call this stupid is beneath me....

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by TiM3LoRd

 

I dunno they seem pretty sincere, If i can get her to realise it's all in her mind then i've done a public service. No point bashing someone about belief - better to try and show them the error of their ways. Besides you know this is ATS right - there's kooks a plenty.

Admittedly I'm probably wasting my time though

edit on 11-12-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)

first they say the blue things is someones jeans and then they dont know what it is. inconsistency EEEERRRRRRR!!! Fail.

Oh i agree but i think she's ( sorry to speak about the poster in the third person) a bit dellusional. She's projecting her belief about demons onto really bad photo's. I suspect that this is in some way comforting to her as it validates her belief in God and the Chruch she attends. No demons = no God in her mind so she's desperate to prove it to someone else so she has confirmation- thus validating her belief in God. Personally , i find these sort of perceptual deviations quite interesting as they show how belief distorts reality.

edit on 11-12-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)

well thanks a hell of alot for the judgement..delusional..when you go threw something like this ill say the same thing ok....comforting ..right.....give me a break you cant debunk the other pics..can you...or other peoples can you..My belief in God is going to take me to heaven not hell...Have any of you heard of a bible??? I guess not>>>hint you invented your self or something else invented you...The bible is all i need to validate my belief in God not demons or spirits...You wouldn't understand with your head way up in the clouds..This is not a belief system is is reality...Sorry not all people have money like you to go and buy expensive cameras ect.. i posted and got response..

so you neither believe in God or Satan,,which means you neither believe in heaven or hell..you just exist...

Is this what you are saying..cause this is what im getting from you both..again freedom of choice came before man...remember that...

Originally posted by TiM3LoRd

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by TiM3LoRd

 

I dunno they seem pretty sincere, If i can get her to realise it's all in her mind then i've done a public service. No point bashing someone about belief - better to try and show them the error of their ways. Besides you know this is ATS right - there's kooks a plenty.

Admittedly I'm probably wasting my time though

edit on 11-12-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)

first they say the blue things is someones jeans and then they dont know what it is. inconsistency EEEERRRRRRR!!! Fail.

the thread is labeled..im looking for a professional photographer is there anyone??? is that you??guess not...maybe you should keep our judgements to your self and read the topic..

Hint...we the people figuring out the pic are figuring out what the pic is really about...hint the pic looked like the jeans were in the air..Now the reason for this thread is to find out...Not to judge others

Originally posted by Wildmanimal
reply to post by eeks4

 

I know my photography, but it is not how I make my living. I do have some advice free of charge if
you like. 1. Cell phones (unless you have a super duper one and even then) are not reliable professional
quality Camera equipment. 2. All it takes is a simple USB plug to connect your phone photos to a computer
IF you have a memory card installed on your phone. 3. If you are altering an image to enhance a certain
quality of a photograph, that does not mean that the result you are endeavoring is actually what you have
captured on film, or in most cases in 2011, Data/Pixels.

You could very well have a "ghost" in your picture, but the evidence may prove inconclusive.
Still, if you are having fun continue on.

thank you for your help

Originally posted by Wildmanimal
reply to post by eeks4

 

I know my photography, but it is not how I make my living. I do have some advice free of charge if
you like. 1. Cell phones (unless you have a super duper one and even then) are not reliable professional
quality Camera equipment. 2. All it takes is a simple USB plug to connect your phone photos to a computer
IF you have a memory card installed on your phone. 3. If you are altering an image to enhance a certain
quality of a photograph, that does not mean that the result you are endeavoring is actually what you have
captured on film, or in most cases in 2011, Data/Pixels.

You could very well have a "ghost" in your picture, but the evidence may prove inconclusive.
Still, if you are having fun continue on.

thank you for your help

reply to post by eeks4


I believe there's a source to everything, what that is nobody knows. They can claim to but it's only belief. Everyone believes in something - sex, money, drink, drugs, tv reality shows, Jehovah, Budda, Allah. What i have noticed amoungst people is they project what they believe onto the world, they shape their reality around it. By knowing i don't know what that is, i keep an open mind. All you have is a closed mind. Only your reality could possibly be true. If your God is true does that invalidate the God's of others or are you all correct ? I still believe you're dellusional. You really think you're going to find demons on a photo ? why aren't their millions of demon photos out there ?

If you post on a public forum you should expect things like this - aren't their christian websites where you could all agree ?


As an after thought the only devil i think exists is the animalistic, selfish tendencies within humankind - it's a cop out to blame it on a little red guy with horns

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by eeks4

 

I believe there's a source to everything, what that is nobody knows. They can claim to but it's only belief. Everyone believes in something - sex, money, drink, drugs, tv reality shows, Jehovah, Budda, Allah. What i have noticed amoungst people is they project what they believe onto the world, they shape their reality around it. By knowing i don't know what that is, i keep an open mind. All you have is a closed mind. Only your reality could possibly be true. If your God is true does that invalidate the God's of others or are you all correct ? I still believe you're dellusional. You really think you're going to find demons on a photo ? why aren't their millions of demon photos out there ?

you have a right to your opinion in deed..and yes again lots of different beliefs..trust me my mind is far from being closed..that is a false judgement there..ok..only my reality can be true..well that incorrect..there are many different opinions in every day life on any kind of subject that ther is in life..but if you know without a doubt then why choose something that is false..To make others happy..???? a open mind is how this happened to me..LOl...maybe i should of kept my mind closed and this would of never came to me....

Other people have seen what i have seen at my home...Others Know...i just thought i would share...I dont know other Gods so i couldn't answer that question about other gods..I only have one...there are so many other pic of demons out there..more then we know..

DO you believe in possession of a demon spirit..

reply to post by eeks4


As a matter of fact i am a part time photographer. which means i do birthdays and engagements.

Also nowhere did i mention anything about the price you paid for the camera so please stay on point.

Your erratic thought processes are clearly evident and im not here to judge you because i dont know you so you have no significance to me at all. I am merely making an observation of the goings on in this thread and the possible duplicity that might also be involved.

What ever delusions help you sleep at night are your business and not mine or anybody else's business.

You asked people to help you "decode" the picture and it turns out there is nothing to decode.

If how ever you want us to validate your delusions im sorry but i cant do that. Believe in whatever you want but dont expect others to do so too. Dont shoot the messenger either just read the note and digest the information.

peace and im out.

not wasting my time with this thread anymore good luck with reality.

ETA i think this is a troll post designed to draw attention away from something else but make up your own conclusion.

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by eeks4

 

I believe there's a source to everything, what that is nobody knows. They can claim to but it's only belief. Everyone believes in something - sex, money, drink, drugs, tv reality shows, Jehovah, Budda, Allah. What i have noticed amoungst people is they project what they believe onto the world, they shape their reality around it. By knowing i don't know what that is, i keep an open mind. All you have is a closed mind. Only your reality could possibly be true. If your God is true does that invalidate the God's of others or are you all correct ? I still believe you're dellusional. You really think you're going to find demons on a photo ? why aren't their millions of demon photos out there ?

If you post on a public forum you should expect things like this - aren't their christian websites where you could all agree ?

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As an after thought the only devil i think exists is the animalistic, selfish tendencies within humankind - it's a cop out to blame it on a little red guy with horns

edit on 11-12-2011 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)

now you have made a valid point about blaming the evil always on the devil..we as people are already evil in our hearts by the bible ok...Our own thought and actions prove that full well.....and we blame our actions on others..totally agree with you statement on that...but the bible the holy bible does state that we are fighting the principality of darkness..now the principality of darkness are spirits that are all over in this world that some people with vision can see and some can not..

I have been able to see spirits in front of my face and spirits that walk back and forth since the age of 5..i dont take pictures of them very often...cant afford it..i usually dont tell anyone this stuff cause very few believe in them..This is a natural way for me..im native American and German..the spiritual stuff comes from the native American

Originally posted by eeks4

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by eeks4

 

I believe there's a source to everything, what that is nobody knows. They can claim to but it's only belief. Everyone believes in something - sex, money, drink, drugs, tv reality shows, Jehovah, Budda, Allah. What i have noticed amoungst people is they project what they believe onto the world, they shape their reality around it. By knowing i don't know what that is, i keep an open mind. All you have is a closed mind. Only your reality could possibly be true. If your God is true does that invalidate the God's of others or are you all correct ? I still believe you're dellusional. You really think you're going to find demons on a photo ? why aren't their millions of demon photos out there ?

you have a right to your opinion in deed..and yes again lots of different beliefs..trust me my mind is far from being closed..that is a false judgement there..ok..only my reality can be true..well that incorrect..there are many different opinions in every day life on any kind of subject that ther is in life..but if you know without a doubt then why choose something that is false..To make others happy..???? a open mind is how this happened to me..LOl...maybe i should of kept my mind closed and this would of never came to me....

Other people have seen what i have seen at my home...Others Know...i just thought i would share...I dont know other Gods so i couldn't answer that question about other gods..I only have one...there are so many other pic of demons out there..more then we know..

DO you believe in possession of a demon spirit..

No but i do believe in mental illness, be it transitory or permanent. I once worked at a psychiatric hospital briefly, as a porter. A fair percentage of the people in there had various religion based manias. Even had a guy who thought he was both Jesus and the devil ! I believe it's all in the mind so I'm sort of stuck in that perspective as that works for me , if believeing in devils and demons works for you then good luck with it - I'm out as we're obviously only going to disagree from here on in.

I lucidly dream most night's and have had sleep paralysis a number of times, so as such i can relate to seeing things - in my case i concluded it's all in the old noggin.

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone

Originally posted by eeks4

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by eeks4

 

I believe there's a source to everything, what that is nobody knows. They can claim to but it's only belief. Everyone believes in something - sex, money, drink, drugs, tv reality shows, Jehovah, Budda, Allah. What i have noticed amoungst people is they project what they believe onto the world, they shape their reality around it. By knowing i don't know what that is, i keep an open mind. All you have is a closed mind. Only your reality could possibly be true. If your God is true does that invalidate the God's of others or are you all correct ? I still believe you're dellusional. You really think you're going to find demons on a photo ? why aren't their millions of demon photos out there ?

you have a right to your opinion in deed..and yes again lots of different beliefs..trust me my mind is far from being closed..that is a false judgement there..ok..only my reality can be true..well that incorrect..there are many different opinions in every day life on any kind of subject that ther is in life..but if you know without a doubt then why choose something that is false..To make others happy..???? a open mind is how this happened to me..LOl...maybe i should of kept my mind closed and this would of never came to me....

Other people have seen what i have seen at my home...Others Know...i just thought i would share...I dont know other Gods so i couldn't answer that question about other gods..I only have one...there are so many other pic of demons out there..more then we know..

DO you believe in possession of a demon spirit..

No but i do believe in mental illness, be it transitory or permanent. I once worked at a psychiatric hospital briefly, as a porter. A fair percentage of the people in there had various religion based manias. Even had a guy who thought he was both Jesus and the devil ! I believe it's all in the mind so I'm sort of stuck in that perspective as that works for me , if believeing in devils and demons works for you then good luck with it - I'm out as we're obviously only going to disagree from here on in.

I lucidly dream most night's and have had sleep paralysis a number of times, so as such i can relate to seeing things - in my case i concluded it's all in the old noggin.

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bless your heart..im tired as well..Yes i worked with the mentally impaired as well for a number of years...The place was called daily companions..i think your work was a bit different though...makes you wonder thought if some of these sick people really had something happen to them...

I have been to doctors and my brain is just fine....thank you though..just a bit tired..have a good night and good luck to you and its been nice talking with ya....God bless

reply to post by eeks4


You too, sorry if i called you dellusional, we're all entitled to our own beliefs. I find knocking them usually only makes them stronger Best wishes !

reply to post by eeks4


I apologize to the OP if I'm echoing other people's opinions.

I am not a professional photographer, but I taught photography for about 15 years. I am pretty good with Photoshop, and a sideline interest of mine is paranormal photography. I have very strong beliefs about what is and is not possible to record with a camera. A camera records light. Physical light. It can't do other tricks. So, if there was something there at the moment the picture was taken that emitted physical light that could be measured, it could be recorded with your camera. If there was no physical light, no recording.

I inverted the image as others did, and then used a filter called, "LEVELS" on the image, which allows me to manipulate the mid-tones to be lighter without spot lightening anywhere. It is a neat way to reveal what information might be hidden in the picture.

This photo has nothing I can see that is paranormal. The "foot" coming from the leg of the blue jeans is not a foot at all, but the girl's arm. Her hand is up to her ear like she is on a phone, and behind her is something that looks like a pillow. No demon.

If you see 'faces' behind her, then this is probably due to something called pareidolia. Human beings tend to 'recognize' shapes as faces, even when they are simply patterns.

Now, if you are being pestered by some type of entity, whether or not there is a photo of it is not really relevant. Not having this be a demon photo doesn't make your house not be haunted. (although ascribing this to a demon is maybe going too far.)

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I like the way you think.

Starred.