The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries. 1,580,255 active-duty pers

was discussing this earlier with a friend.
i knew it was over a million troops, he was thinking half that.
to really understand the political madness of it we just need to see the numbers.
these are wiki numbers from last dec. they may have changed a bit.
things that also add to this is military contractors, covert ops not counted, along with anything else we may not know about.

The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150[1] countries around the world, with more than 369,000 of its 1,580,255[2] active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories. Most of these overseas personnel are deployed in combat zones in the Middle east, as part of the "War on Terror". Many of the remainder are located at installations activated during the Cold War, by which the US government sought to counter the Soviet Union in the aftermath of World War II.

Combat zonesAfghanistan – Approximately 103,700 US personnel[3] as of December 31, 2010.
Iraq - Approximately 11,000 US personnel as of November, 24, 2011.
AfricaCairo, Egypt – 52
Djibouti – 334[2]
Kenya - 42[2]
Sinai Desert, Egypt - Approximately 500 personnel. See Multinational Force and Observers.
Uganda – 100
[edit] AsiaDiego Garcia - 286[2]
Japan – 40,178[2]
Jakarta, Indonesia - 30[2]
Malaysia - 16[2]
Philippines - 182[2]
Singapore – 157[2]
South Korea – 28,500[2]
Thailand – 162[2]
[edit] OceaniaAustralia - 2500[2]
Marshall Islands - 15[2]
New Zealand - 11[2]
[edit] Europe
US military bases in Germany in 2009.Belgium – 1,234[2]
France - 72[2]
Germany – 54,198[2]
Greece – 378[2]
Greenland - 135[2]
Italy – 10,771[2]
Netherlands – 433[2]
Norway - 89[2]
Poland - 33[2]
Portugal – 731[2]
Serbia (and Kosovo) - 26[2]
Spain – 1,483[2]
Sweden - 9[2]
Turkey – 1,511[2]
United Kingdom – 9,436[2]
[edit] Middle EastBahrain – 1,894[2]
Kuwait - 10,548
Oman - 33[2]
Qatar – 678[2]
United Arab Emirates - 140[2]
[edit] Western HemisphereAntigua - 3[2]
Colombia - 64[2]
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba – 881[2]
Netherlands Antilles - 10
Saint Helena - 3
[edit] United StatesThere are 1,226,638[2] personnel on active duty in the United States and its territories:

Alaska – 21,506[2]
Guam – 4,137[2]
Hawaii – 42,360[2]
Puerto Rico - 190[2]
The contiguous United States – 1,019,767[2]
Transients – 55,356[2]

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peace sells but who's buyin?

i'll bet that soon you can add the U.S. itself to the list.

reply to post by rubbertramp


Most of those "troop deployments" are embassy protection personnel.

It's not like we have bases in all of these countries and it's not like we are conducting military operation in every single one of them either.

Context is everything.

reply to post by projectvxn


Each star is an American base (at least one of the ones in Pakistan have since been shut down).



This map is focused on the whole world, not just the ME.

United Bases of America

This is more than just "embassy protection personnel"

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Must suck to be weak

reply to post by rubbertramp


One and a half million troops, just military personnel.

How much would have been deployed by the CIA?

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Again, most of the troops deployed overseas are in embassies.

Bases over seas are numerous, to be sure, but context is everything.
Most of those bases are there because of agreements with their respective governments.

They can always tell us to go away. And we would.

Originally posted by RARARAsputin
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

Must suck to be weak

Not as much as it must suck to be John McCain.....

Got anything useful to bring to the table ? thought not.

And Projectvxn, i guess your going to tell us the US doesn't have an Empire and is only all over the world for purely altruistic reasons..

Why are US forces still in the UK and Germany ? didn't the cold war end decades ago ? and don't tell me they are there because UK and Germany asked for their presence.

Suck it up...the US is an Empire...soon to be Ex-Empire, and unlike all Empires that came before, no infrastructure was ever built, just bases and natives reduced to the stone-age.....bravo,bravo..

Cosmic..

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

Again, most of the troops deployed overseas are in embassies.

Bases over seas are numerous, to be sure, but context is everything.
Most of those bases are there because of agreements with their respective governments.

They can always tell us to go away. And we would.

the link provided stats clearly state which are in a war zone.
you could tell me not to count that guy cause all he does is clean toilets.
that's not the point, he is still deployed and counted.

After WWII we forced many countries to PAY to support our military in their country.

Japan for example pays $2 Billion a year and we only have 40,178 troops there.

Germany used to have hundreds of little US military sites, but they were shut down under Clinton.


Japan wants us out of their country so they can use that $2 Billion to build its own military hardware. They already made prototypes and tested them.

If we had to pay for our own military....we wouldn't have one.

Here's a breakdown on numbers as of June 30 2011:

siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil...

reply to post by Chadwickus


excellent, thanx for the link.
hey, i'm having trouble finding numbers for defense contractors.
all i'm coming up with is lists of companies.
any idea where to find number of personel?
it's all about the search term and i'm just not finding it.

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by rubbertramp

 

Most of those "troop deployments" are embassy protection personnel.

It's not like we have bases in all of these countries and it's not like we are conducting military operation in every single one of them either.

Context is everything.

How many foreign troops do we have in our borders protecting foreign embassies?

reply to post by rubbertramp


Hmm I don't think it would be very easy to track defense contractors personnel numbers but I do have a few links you could poke around and might find something:

www.defenseindustrydaily.com...
comptroller.defense.gov...
www.fedspending.org...

reply to post by cuervo


What's your point?

reply to post by projectvxn


I'm not Cuervo but please allow me to speak on their behalf (or at least my interpretation of their point). I think their point is that you took it upon yourself to confidently state that most of these "troops" are "embassy personnel".

Us simpletons would like for you to give us some factual numbers as for the percentage of U.S. Military personnel are actually embassy personnel versus active duty. I don't claim to know this number so hopefully you can help set me straight

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


It is common knowledge that Marines are regularly deployed to embassies around the world.

www.marines.mil...

The primary mission of the Marine Security Guard (MSG) is to provide internal security at designated U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in order to prevent the compromise of classified material vital to the national security of the United States. The secondary mission of the MSG is to provide protection for U.S. citizens and U.S government property located within designated U.S. diplomatic and consular premises during exigent circumstances (urgent temporary circumstances which require immediate aid or action).

And we have embassies in nearly every nation on Earth. Most of which, if not all,have a marine contingent attached to them.

Though I am not sure of the exact number.

reply to post by cuervo

I know for a fact that the Italian embassy in Washington DC and each Italian consulate in the US has a detachment of Carabineri paramilitary police for security purposes.

Certain British embassies/high commissions will have a detachment of British Army Royal Military Police or Ministry of Defence Police. Again certain Canadian embassies/high commissions will also have an RCMP security detachment.

Most USMC Marine Security Guard detachments are relatively small. Most have between 6 and 10 marines commanded by a senior NCO, though some (ie: Iraq, Mexico, etc) will have Marine Security Guard detachments up to company size.

reply to post by projectvxn


You know projectvxn i admire your staunch loyalty...but,

...do you ever have the nagging feeling that the entity that you are advocating for, is in fact the devil.

You play the devils advocate and would have us all believe there are perfectly justifiable reasons for having bases all over the world, that most of the overseas personnel are stationed at Embassy's....LMFAO at that one.

No doubt you would have us all believe the rest of the overseas personnel are for humanitarian aid purposes or some such ridiculously naive activity.

Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your halo fell off about 60 yrs ago and now resides somewhere around your ankles. (I mean the US , not you personally).
The US, despite the denials, is an Empire in all but name, you want the power but shun the responsibility by calling yourself something else...hell anything else.

You know you (the US) could save yourself a LOT of money simply by packing up and going home.
Most Empires in history left a legacy of infrastructure behind them when they left, what will the US leave behind when it finally go's away ? bomb craters , military bases and nations retarded to the stone-age.
But of course yours is not an Empire...it is a protection racket.

Pull your head out of the sand projectvxn...loyalty is one thing...blind loyalty is just stupid.

Cosmic..

reply to post by Cosmic4life

You know projectvxn i admire your staunch loyalty...but, ...do you ever have the nagging feeling that the entity that you are advocating for, is in fact the devil.

What does this have to do with the topic? Nothing.

You play the devils advocate and would have us all believe there are perfectly justifiable reasons for having bases all over the world

There are, in fact, perfectly justifiable reasons for having bases all over the world. I did not, however, say that they were GOOD reasons or relevant to the threats the US faces today. I'd be just as happy as anyone else if we close more than a few of them down.

hat most of the overseas personnel are stationed at Embassy's....LMFAO at that one.

I said deployments. Since we don't have bases in every country in the world but we do have Embassies in nearly all countries. The bases we do have around the world see regular rotations of troops and never increase in number unless there is a direct threat to the base or it is to become a staging base for forces about to be engaged in combat. Again, most of those bases are there either at the behest of the host government or simply through mutual agreement. If those governments said "you gotta go" we would go.

No doubt you would have us all believe the rest of the overseas personnel are for humanitarian aid purposes or some such ridiculously naive activity.

I would have you believe nothing. These are simply my opinions and observations.

Well sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your halo fell off about 60 yrs ago and now resides somewhere around your ankles. (I mean the US , not you personally). The US, despite the denials, is an Empire in all but name, you want the power but shun the responsibility by calling yourself something else...hell anything else.

Empires conquer. We have done nothing of the such. Having a base in a host country does not equal an empire. We do not lay claim to any land outside the contiguous US, Hawaii, Alaska, and nearby protectorates like Puerto Rico.

You know you (the US) could save yourself a LOT of money simply by packing up and going home.

Agreed.

Most Empires in history left a legacy of infrastructure behind them when they left, what will the US leave behind when it finally go's away ? bomb craters , military bases and nations retarded to the stone-age.

Examples of these conditions please?

But of course yours is not an Empire...it is a protection racket.

We don't always get it right. But much of the time we do. We'll see how happy you are when the Chinese and Russians fill that void.

People call on the US to help. And when we do we're called conquerors and evil doers. In fact, I agree with you, I think the next time we are ask for help we should simply say no. I'm all for the world being allowed to destroy itself, so long as they leave us alone.

Pull your head out of the sand projectvxn...loyalty is one thing

I don't think you understand me or my sense of loyalty at all.