Scholastic Brainwashing 4th Grade Students With OWS Propaganda-

Merry Meet,

It is my personal opinion that all we can do to give our children the best education possible is to be a strong part of their lives, to teach them to think for themselves. To ask questions and not settle for any one answer. By questioning everything they come across they will be able to make an informed and knowledgeable answer for themselves. Our position as parents is truly the ability to care for and to show our children to seek wisdom in all things. Not pump them with loads of information or disinformation, but to teach them HOW to think, not WHAT to think.

Only by these methods will our children be strong and wise enough in their convictions to fight the information that will shoot them down from following their dreams. There was once a dream that was America....

Gotta love the Department of Education.

But we cant get rid of that, there would be no more education!!!

Text Yes, I read the article. It's biased toward the political views of the protesters. as you stated "it's a news and current affairs magazine for KIDS" I guess you'd have no problem with the same magazine containing an article written from the persepective of the Tea Party or a group opposed to unions?

reply to post by tangonine


How is the article biased toward the political views of a protester?

Admit that you are wrong.You are making Republicans look stupid.

Are you an Obama supporter?

Some kind if socialist?

Are you an OWSer?

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by theovermensch

 

"The issue arose over the Scholastic News handout given to students"

I'm assuming it was "given" to them by a teacher......

Fail. The Schoolastic News Report is not propaganda.

Why dont you take the time to read something before you blindly agree with an alarmist conservative propagandist?

And again,where exactly is the bias? You still havent read the thing have you?

reply to post by theovermensch


Fail- yes I did read it and I'm not a conservative nor an alarmist-so stop with the snarky attitude-you don't even know me-this is getting juvenile-your just miffed about the other thread........

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by theovermensch

 

Fail- yes I did read it and I'm not a conservative nor an alarmist-so stop with the snarky attitude-you don't even know me-this is getting juvenile-your just miffed about the other thread........

If you read it then point out exactly where the propaganda is?

Where is it?

And if you are not a conservative you must be some kind of parrot.

Originally posted by Skippy1138
reply to post by theovermensch

 

Fail- yes I did read it and I'm not a conservative nor an alarmist-so stop with the snarky attitude-you don't even know me-this is getting juvenile-your just miffed about the other thread........

And dont flatter yourself.

If you are going to encourage a conservative propagandists ridiculous thread I am going to call you on it. Instead of playing the victim explain yourself. Where is the propaganda exactly?

I teach freshman physics at a 4 year university.

This explains why my students are totally unprepared.

Originally posted by HangTheTraitors
Gotta love when the right-winger anti-OWS loonies (er, , greedy corrupt devils, snakes, bankers, Wall Street folks and other American-ruining TRAITORS among us) scream out 'propaganda' whenever it involves anything that is against their corrupt interests.

The truth to them is "propaganda" because these snakes live the life of LIES, GREED, and CORRUPTION and wouldnt know the TRUTH or anything GOOD and DECENT if it smacked them in their SMUG, GREEDY, DEVILISH faces.

The TRUTH is considered "propaganda" in the eyes of these anti-American, SELFISH, GREEDY, snakes and devils.

BS thread. Epic BS.

edit on 11-12-2011 by HangTheTraitors because: (no reason given)

More all caps. Maybe you'll get a few more stars. Bottom line is the corruption starts in DC, not Wall St. If you're going to educate children on corruption in government start with Nancy Pelosi buying IPO stock in Visa and made 200% profit.

Or how Dick Durbin made $100G in Berkshire Hathaway in 2009 off of insider trading.

You elected them, you get to reap the whirlwind.

Originally posted by tangonine

Originally posted by cconn487
These are the things we SHOULD be teaching our children. To stand up for themselves and not let a few control the many. And to want jobs ready for kids when they graduate from school. How is this bad in any way? If anything its good.

Yeah. It's some idiot grade school teacher's place to brainwash kids into defying authority. Srsly? Just teach them to read, write and add and multiply. The moral teaching isn't to be done by some nitwit who can't teach at university level or get a job in the real world.

My elementary school teacher taught me a lot about standing up to authority. We heard all these stories about guys named Washington, Franklin, and Jefferson, and Adams. We sang this song called "The Star Spangled Banner." We were told about this thing called The Bill of Rights and how it ensures our right to assemble and to petition the government for redress of our grievances.

You're so right though. Teachers should just bypass all of that "question authority" rhetoric. It is so anti-American.

reply to post by tangonine

It's an "adult" topic. Not that 4th graders shouldn't be informed, but it's not the place of the state to "inform" them. They have a word for it... lemme think... hmmm... oh yeah: it's "propoganda"

First of all this is not an action by the state. The magazine is presented by Schoolastic to help teachers teach things. It reinforces age appropriate vocabulary. (Did you see the bolded word in the article?) It helps teachers start kids on the habit of reading about the world around them. It also helps children to grow an interest in keeping up with the news. There are also usually little activities to highlight the vocabulary words tucked in the magazine.

If you want to talk about propoganda why don't we talk about the myths and lies that are taught daily in history and civics classes? This article is not state sponsored propoganda it is a learning activity supplied by an independent company. If there is anything to be mad about it is the fact that this is a corporations attempt at creating brand recognition in children to drive up sells of their products.

If it isn't the state's place to inform children that would mean there should be no public schools run by the state. Think about what you say before you say it. What you intend to say may not actually be what you said.

Originally posted by MikeNice81
reply to post by tangonine

 

It's an "adult" topic. Not that 4th graders shouldn't be informed, but it's not the place of the state to "inform" them. They have a word for it... lemme think... hmmm... oh yeah: it's "propoganda"

First of all this is not an action by the state. The magazine is presented by Schoolastic to help teachers teach things. It reinforces age appropriate vocabulary. (Did you see the bolded word in the article?) It helps teachers start kids on the habit of reading about the world around them. It also helps children to grow an interest in keeping up with the news. There are also usually little activities to highlight the vocabulary words tucked in the magazine.

If you want to talk about propoganda why don't we talk about the myths and lies that are taught daily in history and civics classes? This article is not state sponsored propoganda it is a learning activity supplied by an independent company. If there is anything to be mad about it is the fact that this is a corporations attempt at creating brand recognition in children to drive up sells of their products.

If it isn't the state's place to inform children that would mean there should be no public schools run by the state. Think about what you say before you say it. What you intend to say may not actually be what you said.

You are aware, of course (it's a rhetorical question, because you're obviously not) that there is an entity known as the NEA? Tax-payer funded. All primary schools are taxpayer-funded and run by the government.

I don't disagree that history classes are filled with utter crap, but your definition of crap and my definition of crap, I'd guess, are diametrically opposed.

reply to post by tangonine

You are aware, of course (it's a rhetorical question, because you're obviously not) that there is an entity known as the NEA?

Actually I am very aware that there is an organization known as the National Education Association. I am also aware that it is a union supported by member dues.

The National Education Association (NEA) is the largest professional organization and largest labor union in the United States,[2][3] representing public school teachers and other support personnel, faculty and staffers at colleges and universities, retired educators, and college students preparing to become teachers.

All primary schools are taxpayer-funded and run by the government.

No they are not. My child's private church based school recieves no tax money. It is acreditted and it is recognized by the state. However, it recieves zero dollars from the government. It is supported by tuition money and grants from non-profit organizations.

All public schools recieve tax money. However, that does not make the choice of a single teacher a state sponsored activity. I'm sure the state did not sponsor the band teacher at my high school skimming money from fund raisers. They actually told my high school civics teacher to stop teaching the "unwritten rules" of becoming president.

The state does not pay for the Schoolastic reader either. So, they do not financially sponsor the use of the text either. If the state isn't telling them to do it, and isn't supplying the money for the reader, there is no sponsorship. There may be silent consent, but that is different than sponsorship.

I don't disagree that history classes are filled with utter crap, but your definition of crap and my definition of crap, I'd guess, are diametrically opposed.

How about we start with the whole idea that Christopher Columbus was a genius sailor that taught people the world wasn't flat? They leave out the part that nobody believed the earth was flat. Leif Erikkson made it here years before Columbus. Many scholars actually believe the first European-American child was born to Viking parents about 1004.

Most history classes completely omit the Articles of Confederation. They in essence leave out the fact that the constitution was the second form of US government. The founders wanted minimal government and only came up with the constitution we live under because their first try failed.

How about the myth of "The Pilgrims?" They actually made up about one-third of the passengers on that particualr voyage. The other 70 passengers were fortune hunters and various rouges. The Pilgrims actually chose to stay where they did because it was already planted with corn. Basically they came in and stole the food of the natives. That isn't how text books teach it though. They also leave out the part where the "Pilgrims" actually praised god for sending a plauge to wipe out the natives. I have yeat to find a text book that tells about the masacare of over 400 natives when a settler was found dead in his boat.


Schools teach propoganda to students everyday. They leave out and lie about many things to help foster a cult of personality. If you want to talk about state sponsored propoganda there is a lot of ground to cover before we talk about a factual report in a Schoolastic magazine. A magazine that is not written by, sponsored by, or required by the state.