NEWS: Hurricane Ivan, Not again! UPDATE: He's Back, T.S. Style!

[edit on 10/2/2004 by esther]

Originally posted by worldwatcher
south florida got lucky again or prayer really works

They better just pray that he doesn't decide to change direction again

Originally posted by esther
All the folks from FL drove to AL and MS to get supplies when they ran out for Frances (like plywood, generators, water, etc) so we have next to ZERO supplies. Great, eh?

What's even worse is in places like Jamica, they have no Plywood, what they do have is saved for Hotels and Government buildings.

Imagine what they went through.

Esther in the hard ware stores in the area is not supplies at all my husband works part time for home depot and people are going as far as NY to order generators and other supplies also the wood was directed to Florida during the last hurricanes and now its not even wood for the are.

Funny we still have Floridians in the hotels waiting for the ok to go back home and they are now wondering if Ivan will come here to get them.


[edit on 13-9-2004 by marg6043]

Here's a little blurb from google,

"THE full horror of Hurricane Ivan�s brutal spree through the British Cayman Islands began to emerge last night as residents reported a killer wall of water submerging the country and "devastation beyond imagination".

There were unconfirmed reports of a number of deaths and claims that corpses had been seen floating on the storm-tide. Locals and British ex-pats described roofs "peeling off like they were fastened on with Velcro" and lorries bobbing on the rising floodwater like bath-toys."

YIKES!

I hope my aunt in the Cayman Islands is alright... Allthough I've never met her before...

Originally posted by MacKiller

What's even worse is in places like Jamica, they have no Plywood, what they do have is saved for Hotels and Government buildings.

Imagine what they went through.

Once again money talks, bs walks... Last friday when Ivan's tail flooded parts of Aruba, the following happened. When they started to pump water out of one of the most flooded neighbourhoods close to the capital city, (which is coincidentally one of the poorest neighbourhoods) someone called for them to take away the pumps and to carry the pumps to a stupid, idiotic golf course of which construction hasn't even finished yet. (and by the way, that golf course right next to a high way. It's so close that your car can get wet by the water sprinklers when you pass by....

Originally posted by TheBandit795

Originally posted by MacKiller

What's even worse is in places like Jamica, they have no Plywood, what they do have is saved for Hotels and Government buildings.

Imagine what they went through.

Once again money talks, bs walks... Last friday when Ivan's tail flooded parts of Aruba, the following happened. When they started to pump water out of one of the most flooded neighbourhoods close to the capital city, (which is coincidentally one of the poorest neighbourhoods) someone called for them to take away the pumps and to carry the pumps to a stupid, idiotic golf course of which construction hasn't even finished yet. (and by the way, that golf course right next to a high way. It's so close that your car can get wet by the water sprinklers when you pass by....

Welcome to the wondeful world of politics. The golf course is something that would ultimately enhance Aruba's tourist industry, whereas the "poor neighbourhoods" are something that detract from that industry. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what will be the priority to the local government. ... It also makes you wonder exactly how much politics influences the "predicted" path of hurricanes. It is blatantly obvious that the ABC islands could not properly prepare for something like Ivan. It's even questionable that the "shelters" would hold up (or have the capacity to house everyone in need), let alone the average home, and even if there was enough materials to properly secure the structures, businesses and homeowners alike could not afford the materials nor labour to undertake these measures. It becomes apparent that even if the path of Ivan was to directly cross over these islands, the best course of action would be to predict otherwise and keep the "fear factor" as low as possible. Now isn't that a warm, comforting thought?

FYI, HAARP mags are beginning to see a huge ramping up pattern similar to just before Francis weakened. We'll see if the predictions change or if Ivan significantly weakens before landfall.

137.229.36.30...

[edit on 10/2/2004 by esther]

Esther I don't blame you I am more inland in GA but already the schools will be close for tomorrow.

I will ride the storm at home.

Originally posted by esther


According to hurricane hunter inside sources locally, what the media is not reporting:
190+/mph sustained winds last night
50-60 ft waves at the eye

esther.

What's your source for this weather data?

Well, heard on Fox that this is one of the most powerful storms, ever. Said something like number 5 all around worst storm. Gee, makes me glad only thing I have to worry about is a little rain, BP blowing up, Davis Besse melting down, Sun Oil blowing up, and well, no hurricanes.

190+/mph sustained winds last night
50-60 ft waves at the eye

I don't blame you!

I would want to get the heck out of there.

If it hits Flordia still at such a high speed, will the waves still be that big at the eye?

[edit on 14-9-2004 by MacKiller]

In New Orleans, Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of emergency and strongly recommended residents evacuate immediately.

Public and private schools in many of Louisiana's coastal parishes already have closed and some businesses and public offices were closing their doors.

Nagin said that as of Tuesday morning there was a 22 percent chance that New Orleans would take a direct hit.

Ewww... makes my stomach hurt.

Mandatory evacuations have been issued for St. Charles and Plaquemines parishes. Officials strongly urged residents of Jefferson Parish to begin leaving.

Also on Tuesday, President Bush asked for an additional $3.1 billion in emergency funds to help Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina and any other areas affected by Hurricanes Charley and Frances earlier this month.

In Mississippi, where Gov. Haley Barbour also declared a state of emergency Monday, residents living south of Interstate 10, were under a mandatory evacuation order.

In Florida, mandatory evacuations went into effect Tuesday for most of the Gulf Coast counties, including Santa Rosa, Walton, Escambia and Okaloosa. Schools in 12 counties have been closed.

Police in Destin, Florida, were making sure residents got out .

edition.cnn.com...

Here is the newest updated photo I was able to find:



Still doesn't look too good

Don't know about the 60 foot waves in the eye but here are two of the buoys closest to Ivan currently:


Station 42001 - MID GULF 180 nm South of Southwest Pass, LA.


Station 42003 - E GULF 260 nm South of Panama City, FL

This link will list all buoys close to shore as the hurricane draws closer. You should be able to gauge wave heights at the eye as it draws closer to these buoys -- provided the buoy can transmit.

Here is a pictorial summary of the gulf of mexico buoys.

I still believe that this evening it will take a left turn to the west and head for Texas Coast. No faith in models unless they are Super Models

Wow - last night one of the models had a really strange twist at the end of the tracking forecast, now they are all doing it.

www.wunderground.com...


Looks like well into land this beast will be wreaking havoc.

People here in FL are now commenting that Charley was almost a godsend for a good part of the state since it took down everything lose in a few hours that would have been flying around for 24 hours during Frances. I can't imagine this one hitting wherever it lands, bigger stronger and slower than that.

Anyone in the path of Ivan please take this one seriously and leave if they tell you to. (Better yet get on the road before they tell you to so you don't get stuck in a parking lot.) Assume coming back to nothing to work with when you return even if the house is standing (no water, electric, etc.) so along with all legal documents and records (including a copy of each of your most recent bills - helps to call utilities for status reports) bring the flashlights, batteries, radio, etc. with you. Anything you might need upon return in a post storm situation. If you have a cell phone but no car charger - get one, although the towers will have as many problems as the landlines initially, they did seem to come up pretty fast after Charley & Frances, but you have to be able to charge it.

As for getting out of your area, if you are lucky enough to be able to tag team on drivers, plan on driving straight through to your destination. I packed sandwiches wrapped in halves that we could eat as we needed while still on the move. We stopped only for gas/restroom/drinks and made good time getting ahead of the rest, especially driving well into the night. Get cash now, the ATM's were empty the day we went to leave for Frances. Make sure to come back with it too. The banks were still having problems a week after coming back. Another odd thing people don't think about. Make sure you own a regular old style cord phone that doesn't require electric. If the phones come up but you have no electric you are out of luck without one. $5.00 - $10.00, but you just couldn't get them afterwards.

Another thing, do all laundry in the house at the last minute, pack only what you need for a week to wash as necc on the road, but get the rest of it clean and in garbage bags to come back to.

Just some suggestions that helped us. Good luck!

I am on the eatern side of the storm and already is windy in GA and the weather is ugly, last night it was some rain with wind, but the map does not show now that we are suppouse to be that bad.

I don't get it, the national guard made reservations on holtels in the are for emergency.