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Originally posted by GLaDOS
Well, basically there was a fight in my sons school, and like any other person, he got out his phone and started recording. Soon after, the teachers had him come to the office and his phone confiscated and searched. They found the video of the fight and deleted it - i'm fine for this much. But then, they checked all his other videos and pictures and even his texts. This infuriates me, why do teachers show so much authority over students? and i thought you needed a warrant to search someones phone?
Not sure they have the right to search through your personal business, like going through your phone but they do have he right to take away items that are not allowed in school. They can easily have the police do the search to make it legal, that would have been the approach I would have taken.
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by mileslong54
Not sure they have the right to search through your personal business, like going through your phone but they do have he right to take away items that are not allowed in school. They can easily have the police do the search to make it legal, that would have been the approach I would have taken.
Actually, I think you have this more backwards than anything.
I don't believe the police would have ANY justification to look through the phone unless there were probable cause that a crime had taken place, the kid was being arrested, or there was a warrant for evidence that might be in the phone itself.
As far as the school searching it - private entities aren't governed under the 4th amendment (a fun loophole authorities like to use to get various outside people to snoop for them at times). If it's a public school taking federal dollars, I'm not sure if that changes the game and brings the 4th into the picture, but otherwise I think you'd have to check with an attorney for any possible recourse. I can't see how the school is legally JUSTIFIED in snooping through the phone otherwise, but I can't see any constitutional privacy applications about it beyond what would apply for any other private citizen snooping through your stuff.
Where I work, (public school), the police can search lockers, backpacks, computer accounts, phones and I have seen them do all of the above all in the name of drugs or domestic terrorism..... example... Columbine
Originally posted by GLaDOS
Well, basically there was a fight in my sons school, and like any other person, he got out his phone and started recording. Soon after, the teachers had him come to the office and his phone confiscated and searched. They found the video of the fight and deleted it - i'm fine for this much. But then, they checked all his other videos and pictures and even his texts. This infuriates me, why do teachers show so much authority over students? and i thought you needed a warrant to search someones phone?
Originally posted by GLaDOS
reply to post by JessopJessopJessop
In my sons school, phones are allowed..
Originally posted by Lostmymarbles
You do need consent and permission but as the new trend these days, schools are becoming the new method of brainwashing away an individuals rights with the use of fear and scare tactics (i.e., being suspended or arrested).
I would suggest phone with some sort of key-lock on it, that way they wouldn't be able to access the phone. And tell your kid never to give out the key-lock unless your there with them no matter what scare tactics they try to use (heard stories where they try to get cops involved). That way if the school breaks into the phone it would be hacking and on top of other illegal stuff.
Kids today look at fights as entertainment. They stand around and coax the individuals instead of breaking them up. Back in my day, the bigger kids would step in and break up fights or help the teachers gain control to help stop it.
Buuuuuuullllll Craaaaaappp. Kids have always stood around to watch fights. Always have, always will. My grandpa used to tell me that his teachers wouldn't even break up fights just give them the strap afterwards. Kids used to bet marbles on fights while beating each other over the head with metal lunch boxes and slashing each other with flick knives. I'm sick of you old farts trying to act like every year before you were 25 was some pillowy soft-focus dream-world. The world didn't get worse you just got old. Back in my day my butt, how does it feel to be a cliche?