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Text Right, first off let me say that my wife is a police officer in the UK so you might think my view is coloured, but I think I can give an objective overview;
Text It also seems to be the fashion to join the "I hate the police" club because it's flavour of the month for the middle classes, oooh it makes me anti-establishment, and edgy, it makes me feel like one of the "people"...please, if someone roughed you up on the tube you'd be pleading for the local copper to help in an instant.
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
And this report was by the Gaurdian and the London school of Economics ie Fabian central, NWO social engineering.
The reason these scum felt hassled by the police is because they were mostly gang members conducting their drug trade etc!
The "majority of people" involved in the riots appear not to have been in gangs, the home secretary has said.
Theresa May told MPs it appeared the role of gangs was "not as high as people first thought". In London 19% of those arrested were gang members.
Originally posted by blueorder
Absoloutely NO surprise that the Guardian rag was involved in this "research"- do they really think these criminals are going to give them an honest answer, of course they are going to waffle about being treated as "equals" by the police (what in the name of good frig!?!?!), the Guardianistas love trying to blame the crimes by "urban" "yoof" on some sort of oppression.
Total rot, these people were morally bankrupt, and Id love to see the study on their home lives I am willing to bet a kidney that most came from non stable homes where daddy is not about and mummy likes to bring home a new "uncle" every now and then- the same sort of lifestyle Guardian reading dullards like to promote.
Originally posted by blueorder
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
reply to post by ludwigvonmises003
While there's no doubt that Britain carried out some terrible atrocities in India, I have to query that 1.8bn figure and seriously contend that these deaths could be predominantly attributed to British colonisation.
Due to the caste system, India had rampant social inequality long before the British took control, and still has rampant social inequality long after the British have left.
It is an utterly ridiculous suggestion and automatically renders this poster not worthy of serious debate
Just because they aren't in the public eye doing it without regard doesn't mean they aren't affecting or influencing British politics and society.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by JessopJessopJessop
Just because they aren't in the public eye doing it without regard doesn't mean they aren't affecting or influencing British politics and society.
Please give me just one example, a few would be better but we'll settle for one for now, of how this is so and what makes you think this?
I'd replace the police with people who actually want to stop cime and protect the public. I'd employ a force who do not protect goverment interest and who do not exist soley to raise money for goverments and investors in the police force. If the police weren't willing to go against what is right, and actually said "no, this is wrong, I shouldn't treat everyone as a criminal, I shouldn't harrass innocent folk just to see if they may incriminate themselves in some way so I can arrest them and I should tell any superior who tells me to do this, to shove it".
Originally posted by Wildbob77
I read a lot of police hatred here on ATS.
My question is "What or who would you replace the police with?
It's easy to criticize the police. It's much harder to visualize how we can get the service that society needs in terms of law enforcement without getting some bad apples along with the good.
Originally posted by trustnothing
reply to post by Twiptwop
you mind you own business and go back to G and Ts on your balcony in Mayfair, this is about oppression, about police brutality, about racism and about inequality in general. Remember, shooting dead a black boy started it. If you are too "comfortable" to understand then no need to be involved. Leave that to the 99%
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
And this report was by the Gaurdian and the London school of Economics ie Fabian central, NWO social engineering.
The reason these scum felt hassled by the police is because they were mostly gang members conducting their drug trade etc!
Beg to differ.
www.bbc.co.uk...
The "majority of people" involved in the riots appear not to have been in gangs, the home secretary has said.
Theresa May told MPs it appeared the role of gangs was "not as high as people first thought". In London 19% of those arrested were gang members.
Originally posted by blueorder
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
And this report was by the Gaurdian and the London school of Economics ie Fabian central, NWO social engineering.
The reason these scum felt hassled by the police is because they were mostly gang members conducting their drug trade etc!
Beg to differ.
www.bbc.co.uk...
The "majority of people" involved in the riots appear not to have been in gangs, the home secretary has said.
Theresa May told MPs it appeared the role of gangs was "not as high as people first thought". In London 19% of those arrested were gang members.
key word there is "appear", ffs do you think this criminal scum are just going to admit their gang membership when asked, how naive!edit on 5-12-2011 by blueorder because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mr-lizard
Well, if you'd have bothered to read either the link to the guardian or the mail then you'd have realised these criminal scum admitted to a lot more than just gang membership. But obviously you know that already since you read both the links and didn't just come to this thread flapping your virtual jaw about.