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Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
I'm really hopeful that somebody will respond to this.
Originally posted by GLaDOS
Wouldn’t it have been animal cruelty if he let the snake starve? People feed rabbits and rats to snakes, why not cats?
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
It means nothing, the music, what are you talking about, it is a sick addition to a snuff movie....
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
I guess, with an extreme understanding and patience from my side, I should assume that you have some IQ level, probably not very high, but let's assume you are an intelligent animal. So are the wolves, lions, tigers and elephants... And sharks....A lion etc. would maker a short job of you... You see, your IQ would not work...
Can I feed you to a shark? It would be my pleasure?
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
It would be fun to watch your fight-or-flight response with a lion or tiger....
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
You are one sick person, and I would very much LOVE and enjoy to watch you personally 'interacting' with a lion's teeth, before you made any meaningful attachment to your family.
And yes, your brain has never has never reached a full function....
I would like to give you few good kicks in your probably overweight butt, before the lion gives you a friendly end.
Sorry, I think, you do not deserve 'kindness', like a kitten, you moron, you
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
I'm really hopeful that somebody will respond to this.
Originally posted by southunder
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
It means nothing, the music, what are you talking about, it is a sick addition to a snuff movie....
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
I guess, with an extreme understanding and patience from my side, I should assume that you have some IQ level, probably not very high, but let's assume you are an intelligent animal. So are the wolves, lions, tigers and elephants... And sharks....A lion etc. would maker a short job of you... You see, your IQ would not work...
Can I feed you to a shark? It would be my pleasure?
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
It would be fun to watch your fight-or-flight response with a lion or tiger....
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
You are one sick person, and I would very much LOVE and enjoy to watch you personally 'interacting' with a lion's teeth, before you made any meaningful attachment to your family.
And yes, your brain has never has never reached a full function....
I would like to give you few good kicks in your probably overweight butt, before the lion gives you a friendly end.
Sorry, I think, you do not deserve 'kindness', like a kitten, you moron, you
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
I'm really hopeful that somebody will respond to this.
Originally posted by JessopJessopJessop
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
I'm really hopeful that somebody will respond to this.
There's no point responding as your post is nonsense. You know as well as I do why this individual fed a cat to his snake. Your argument is invalid, no matter how well written.
Originally posted by southunder
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
It means nothing, the music, what are you talking about, it is a sick addition to a snuff movie....
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
I guess, with an extreme understanding and patience from my side, I should assume that you have some IQ level, probably not very high, but let's assume you are an intelligent animal. So are the wolves, lions, tigers and elephants... And sharks....A lion etc. would maker a short job of you... You see, your IQ would not work...
Can I feed you to a shark? It would be my pleasure?
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
It would be fun to watch your fight-or-flight response with a lion or tiger....
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
You are one sick person, and I would very much LOVE and enjoy to watch you personally 'interacting' with a lion's teeth, before you made any meaningful attachment to your family.
And yes, your brain has never has never reached a full function....
I would like to give you few good kicks in your probably overweight butt, before the lion gives you a friendly end.
Sorry, I think, you do not deserve 'kindness', like a kitten, you moron, you
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
I'm really hopeful that somebody will respond to this.
Originally posted by southunder
I have responded to you, and it's in the body of your text.
Good luck, as you are probably an overweight slob getting kicks out of something sick like this.
While waging a naturalistic understanding.
Probably, you would last a minute in a nature, and would pee on yourself faced to a squirrel...
So brave you are
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by JessopJessopJessop
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Things I have to conclude why people think this video is wrong:
The music - What if you muted it, would it still matter?
That the cat (allegedly) has higher intelligence than a mouse or some other animal - All animals have some form of intelligence so, again, regardless of a cat or a mouse, you are feeding an intelligent animal to an intelligent animal, this logic-based.
Domesticated animals are not part of nature and no longer have any natural instincts - On the contrary, regardless of up-brining, animals still hold their animalistic instincts deep within them, even if they are diluted. How long has the species Homo sapien been around? Do we not still have animalistic urges and survival complexities deep within us? Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response?
Trust - No one here can confirm or deny how long this person had the cat. As well, this was obviously a kitten so it could not, clinically, be able to form a meaningful attachment to something, as it's brain was not at full function. In the picture it shows as if the cat was enjoying the company of this human, well, that is just a natural pleasure response this and many animals have. It was merely responding how it should, not because it dearly "loved" the person in the video. Is it because he was nice to the kitten before he fed it to the snake? If that is the case, would you have rather him abuse the kitten and treat it poorly before its death? Would that have been more acceptable? I surely would prefer kind actions towards me before my death.
Torture - People have been making the outlandish claim that this is an act of torture because of the kitten's means of death. So, I guess all the animals that die via suffocation in the wild from a snake are being tortured too, right? The only animal that inflicted pain was the snake. So, to make the claim that this is torture would mean you are blaming the snake for this.
I am in no way justifying the actions in this video nor am I defending the person. I am just hoping you can take a look at this from a different perspective. The hypocrisy is appalling in this thread. "He killed a cat! Surely, he must be punished!" Just let it go. Opinions and morality are subjective to the individual. There is no such thing as right or wrong, these are your opinions; fact.
Everything just is. That is the way of life. It does not need an opinion, it just is.
edit on 4-12-2011 by ErroneousDylan because: Typo
I'm really hopeful that somebody will respond to this.
There's no point responding as your post is nonsense. You know as well as I do why this individual fed a cat to his snake. Your argument is invalid, no matter how well written.
Haha, yes. My post is nonsense because I am stating facts but your posts are perfectly sensible because you state an opinion based on morality. That's logical. I am pretty disappointed you didn't even try and prove your theory. The facts still stand at large.
Originally posted by Foxy1
"His snake was not starving. And nobody cares that a cat was fed to a snake. You are completely missing the point."
"He fed a cat to his snake for pleasure, because he's a psychopath." --the king tutt guy with anonymous face mask
you say nobody cares that a cat was fed to a snake. So if he fed a mouse to his snake or a rabbit would it make him a psychopath?
Forgive me if I lack your insightful psychological profiling professionalism, But I didnt watch the video like you (obviously did) because im not attracted to sick and twisted death scenarios like you say this guy is.edit on 4-12-2011 by Foxy1 because: grammeredit on 4-12-2011 by Foxy1 because: spelling
Originally posted by JessopJessopJessop
You've stated no facts. You are wrong. You are wrong not for what you say, but for what you don't say, and what you lack the intelligence to comprehend.
Nobody cares that a snake ate a cat. Therefore, your entire post is invalid. Because you completely miss the reason for out roar and disgust.
People are not disgusted and angry because a cat was ate, that would be preposterous! People are sick and angry because some revolting psychopath is killing cats for sh/ts and giggles.
As I said before, the action is not what disgusts people, the INTENTION is what's disgusting. The individual in the video is very disturbed and enjoys seeing the suffering of animals. That's peoples problem.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
Originally posted by JessopJessopJessop
You've stated no facts. You are wrong. You are wrong not for what you say, but for what you don't say, and what you lack the intelligence to comprehend.
Nobody cares that a snake ate a cat. Therefore, your entire post is invalid. Because you completely miss the reason for out roar and disgust.
People are not disgusted and angry because a cat was ate, that would be preposterous! People are sick and angry because some revolting psychopath is killing cats for sh/ts and giggles.
As I said before, the action is not what disgusts people, the INTENTION is what's disgusting. The individual in the video is very disturbed and enjoys seeing the suffering of animals. That's peoples problem.
Actually there are a lot of people that are disgusted that a snake ate a cat (at least, as far as their post seem). However, I am merely looking at this from a logical point of view. Not an emotional or intuitionally based perspective, and while it may seem very obvious to you and other what the intention of this person was, you will never be able to factually conclude what it really was, even if it was for the intention you say.
You are not that person, you do not have his mind, mental process, or thoughts. So, you can not logically say what his intentions are. Furthermore, as I have state multiple times, the concept of "disgusting" is simply another form of dualism and is based purely off of subjective opinions.
Again, I am not saying what is right or wrong. I am just arguing for the sake of logic.
Originally posted by ErroneousDylan
reply to post by derpif
I have to agree with you on that one. Very dangerous of the snake's life, however, that is still valuing the life of the snake over the life of the cat, is it not? I would know, I actually own a snake. (of course, it is just a Corn Snake). Like I said, I do agree with your point on the snake's life but this isn't really what I am arguing about. Most people seem to have a morality issue with the fact that the kittens physical life is now over because it was fed to a snake.
First of all, snakes have no morality- they SURVIVE.