UK Embassy attack was nothing to this.....

Watching this video tonight, it had me thinking.
Was the attack on the British Embassy in Iran such a big thing ?
I mean, don`t get me wrong. I`m not condoning it but.......
To recieve worldwide condemnation.
I don`t remember the world going crazy about this incident.

I have to warn. There are some graphic images in this video.




All seems a bit one sided when things happen against the West.

S&F

This whole incident should be recorded in the Dictionary under the word HYPOCRISY

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The entire incident was unfortunate I think it's wrong for the US to not take responsibility for it's actions, but as you said it is not common for the US to admit to such flaws.


On the same note this goes back to a earlier post I made today. News agencies like RT, Haertz, Guardian, and Jerusalem Post to name a few. Seem to be on a all out mission to create tension between Iran and the US. It seems almost everyday there is a new report from the above sources on war rhetoric, but you don't see it elsewhere in the media. It's almost as bad as the Fox News push for war in Iraq back in early 2000.

As I said before I do not think it is the countries so much as the media that wants a war. They seem to savor, delight, and all out salivate over the possibility of war. They love reporting on war. The only thing worse then a dictator is a bored news agency. They can spin anything they want anyway they want. Independent news or not they are all the same looking for ratings.

I'm sorry for the innocent lives that were lost on that flight, but it is utterly ridiculus that they would dig this story up at the present time, but yet they make no mention of the Iranian's taking US hostages and other acts that Iranians have done against the US as well.

Hostages taken at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran


Fifty-two American citizens were taken hostage when militant students of radical Islam stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran.[1] Shortly thereafter, U.S. President Jimmy Carter ordered a complete embargo of Iranian oil; stronger economic embargoes followed. On April 8, 1980, Carter severed diplomatic relations with Iran after negotiations for the hostages' release failed.

Later that month, Carter authorized a top-secret mission, named Operation Eagle Claw, to free the hostages. Helicopters were to carry Delta Force commandos from a carrier in the Persian Gulf to a point outside Tehran, where they were to spend the night and begin the rescue the next morning. The complicated mission, which involved refueling the helicopters at a spot in the Iranian desert labeled "Desert One," was aborted April 25 after three of the eight helicopters suffered mechanical failure. Eight U.S. servicemen were killed when one of the helicopters collided with a refueling plane.

The hostages were finally released just hours after Ronald Reagan's presidential inauguration on Jan. 20, 1981. They had spent 444 days in captivity

www.pbs.org...

It's not much different then all the stories you hear of rocket attacks on Israel, but you never hear about the unprovoked Israeli attacks on Innocent Palestinians. The media will and always has been skewed. regardless of your source.

RT has a major agenda and it's sad that a good number of people don't see it.

The west has always been the real terrorists.
They have killed more people then any dictator we have ever been after.
They put billions of people in poverty.
They invade who they want and threaten others with nukes.
They strangle a countries economy.
They force them to trade in their currency.
They use their people as legal slaves.
They rape their environment.
When we ruin their countries we refuse them to come to ours.
The list goes on.

Fact is we are the biggest hypocrites and obviously living in a world of perceived self entitlement and prejudice.

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There have been more mass murders committed by other nationalities then the US and I would argue that your facts are skewed. Not that I am defending the US by any means. I am the first to admit that America is a Hypocrisy and I'm an American. I do not agree with the "Police of the world" BS that we have been fed since WW2. America needs to mind it's own business 9 times out of 10. My question would be when was the last time America fought a country that was actually a threat to America or it's allies?

That said here are some numbers.

TYRANT DEATHS
Mao 40M
Hitler 34M
Stalin 20M

I would argue that the Eastern and Pacific have a lot more deaths on their hands then America. I mean the above don't even figure in the Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, etc.

So all what's happening at the moment with Iran could have been avoided if the US had sorry to the shooting down of a Civilian Airliner 1988.......Pride can be b*tch can't it....
Also giving them medal's for killing innocent's is just wrong...

Originally posted by boymonkey74
So all what's happening at the moment with Iran could have been avoided if the US had sorry to the shooting down of a Civilian Airliner 1988.......Pride can be b*tch can't it....
Also giving them medal's for killing innocent's is just wrong...

edit on 3-12-2011 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)

Wow yea that makes perfect sense. This is all because America did something stupid and Iran suffered for it, and because America looked bad they are still trying to remedy it by all out destruction of Iran? About right?

I agree the U.S. may have been wrong in that incident.

But there are some "facts" ...

The Iran - Iraq war was ongoing.

A helocopter from U.S.S. Vincennes I think had taken fire from some small boats.
(IN Iranian waters)

The airliner may have been sending a military transponder signal indicating a fighter jet.

I think the U.S. was in the area to protect merchant ships from attacks.

I remember the U.S. paid a big settlement in the 90's.

today i noticed a few (imo) out of place headlines about 'honour' beating statistics, most of them mentioning specifically Iran. seemed a little odd i thought.
i guess something will happen with Iran quite soon and we need reminding that we're supposed to hate them.

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By the west I don’t really mean the countries; although their population allows these things to happen its not their direct doing. It’s the fat cats behind the west. War, poverty and all the things that come with it are all part of the power game, and now that power is governed by money its all about money. The fat cats behind the west are responsible for a lot of the problems world wide because they created the monetary system that governs the world, most of these problems are just its product and we the people enforce it.
Of course all societies are capable of tragedies but those three you listed were in some way responding to the way of life that the west pushes. I know that’s not a full reason and although they are bad they still get the recognition they deserve; while the west are still portrayed as heroes.
Its a hard one because no one is innocent but I have seen the west do some terrible stuff and it doesn’t seem like that is going to stop.

Originally posted by xuenchen
I agree the U.S. may have been wrong in that incident.

But there are some "facts" ...

The Iran - Iraq war was ongoing.

A helocopter from U.S.S. Vincennes I think had taken fire from some small boats.
(IN Iranian waters)

The airliner may have been sending a military transponder signal indicating a fighter jet.

I think the U.S. was in the area to protect merchant ships from attacks.

I remember the U.S. paid a big settlement in the 90's.

You do realise that the US armed both Iran and Iraq and paid them both huge amounts of money to slaughter each other.
The US always seems to complain about taking fire, do they not remember they are invading other countries; what do they expect?
The US was in there to serve its own interests and the conflict of that time was as a result of their actions.

Originally posted by WakeUpRiseUp

Originally posted by xuenchen
I agree the U.S. may have been wrong in that incident.

But there are some "facts" ...

The Iran - Iraq war was ongoing.

A helocopter from U.S.S. Vincennes I think had taken fire from some small boats.
(IN Iranian waters)

The airliner may have been sending a military transponder signal indicating a fighter jet.

I think the U.S. was in the area to protect merchant ships from attacks.

I remember the U.S. paid a big settlement in the 90's.

You do realise that the US armed both Iran and Iraq and paid them both huge amounts of money to slaughter each other.
The US always seems to complain about taking fire, do they not remember they are invading other countries; what do they expect?
The US was in there to serve its own interests and the conflict of that time was as a result of their actions.

Absolutely !

In fact, there are theories that suggest the signal from the plane was actually an Iraqi fighter jet.

Iran also may have had the same jets sold by the U.S.

And, the Helo WAS in Iranian waters.

The Vincennes may not have really known what they were firing at !

Originally posted by lacrimosa
today i noticed a few (imo) out of place headlines about 'honour' beating statistics, most of them mentioning specifically Iran. seemed a little odd i thought.
i guess something will happen with Iran quite soon and we need reminding that we're supposed to hate them.

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Me and my friends were saying the exact same thing when we watched the reports yesterday.
Mind Games...........

These are two completely different things. You cannot compare an alleged state supported attsck on the British Embassy and the shooting down of an airliner. Besides, Iran and the US have settled that particular issue.

Regards