The Enslavement of Man (by Women) [WTB]

reply to post by FortAnthem


Sorry to break it to you.

But you go to work, to pay for the wars that men create.

Oh, and for those who run the banks...that fund these wars.

But if you would like to blame us, that's okay. We're used to putting up with your sh!t by now.

....Like water of a ducks back.

Originally posted by Tripple_Helix
reply to post by FortAnthem

 

Sorry to break it to you.

But you go to work, to pay for the wars that men create.

Oh, and for those who run the banks...that fund these wars.

Yeah but, look at the bright side; thanks to feminism, now YOU get to go to work to pay for the wars that us men created.

You even get to pick up a gun and fight right along side all us men who have done all the dying in all the wars for all those years. Now the women can do all the fighting and dying right along side us men. You can even get captured and raped by the enemies (when you aren't being raped by your fellow soldiers) all thanks to the efforts of the wonderful feminist movement!

Aren't you glad that feminism made you an equal to the men of the world?

Bump.

One last bump.

reply to post by FortAnthem


That was a bitchen read Fort. We all seem to share in the similarities of a rather comical existence that brings us to one ultimate truth.

We ( men and women ) need each other.

For our families and our species to survive. The survival of both becomes
obsured when two men or two women are featured instead of a man and a woman.

Helps to touch base with reality once in awhile. Thanks Fort. SnF

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by FortAnthem

 

That was a bitchen read Fort. We all seem to share in the similarities of a rather comical existence that brings us to one ultimate truth.

We ( men and women ) need each other.

There is no doubt that men and women need each other for survival. We each compliment each other and women tend to soften the male outlook and keep us from acting too harshly to many situations (the male responce to most situations would be "smash" if it weren't for women there to point out that we may need whatever we want to smash later ).

Unfortunately, with the women's equality movement, women are trying hard to become more and more like men and they are losing that special quality that made them women. This is resulting in the coarsening of society without truly feminine women to step in and uphold the standards of civilization.

If women continue on their path toward manhood, it won't be long before the standard solution to every problem is to smash the offending whatever. Just look at out foreign policy and responce to "terrorist" threats right now for an example.

We need truly feminine women back in society to help guide us away from the cultural morass the world is headed toward at breakneck speed. Without the civilizing qualities that women once brought to the world at large, I fear we are all doomed.

reply to post by FortAnthem

You even get to pick up a gun and fight right along side all us men who have done all the dying in all the wars for all those years. Now the women can do all the fighting and dying right along side us men. You can even get captured and raped by the enemies (when you aren't being raped by your fellow soldiers) all thanks to the efforts of the wonderful feminist movement! Aren't you glad that feminism made you an equal to the men of the world?

So first, you are unhappy with the situation of us not being equal, because it's unfair to you and we are apparently taking advantage of you. Yet now, you are unhappy that we are equal with you...

And now it's the feminist movement that is the cause of rape among female soldiers?
Wow, that really is a new low.
You don't think the cause of rape is that some men just cannot control their urges and are sick in the head. They actually get a kick out of it, like it's a big joke.

I have seen photographs of a young girl being gang raped by about 6 American Soldiers. But yet, it's the feminist movements fault? Even though this happened in a country where woman have virtually no rights whatsoever. A place where there is no feminist movement!

Originally posted by ReeceIkyle
You see what the problem is, they have nothing to do in the house anymore. No food preparation, washing machines and tumble dryers, dishwashers, irons or better still crease free garments.

They don't have to light a coal fire, scrub the doorstep, clean the brass, fill a tin bath.

edit on 2-12-2011 by ReeceIkyle because: (no reason given)

WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS BEFORE???

I'll swing for'im when he gets back from'th gin shoppe.
BRB, youngest's stuck up the chimney again.

reply to post by Tripple_Helix


The whole point of this thread was to question whether women had it beeter before the feminist movement made them "equal" to the men. I outlined how women made a good place for themselves inside the home and then how they lost their good situation through the drive for equality.

I used the conspiratorial angle in the story because this is ATS and conspiracies are what we are all about. The story is designed to make you think about whether women have lost more than they gained in the fight for equality.

I'm not saying that a woman shouldn't be able to work along side men in the world, I just question whether it is unfair that society now demands that she do so. I know many women who are stay-at-home-moms who get looked down upon by other women and society in general.

For some odd reason, society has gotten the idea into its head that a person is not whole unless they contribute economically to society. People identify themselves by the jobs they do. I, myself would probably identify myself as an electrician or building maintenance tech long before the idea crossed my mind to identify myself as a husband and father.

We see our families as just a minor aspect of our meager existence when they are, in fact, what we should see as the whole reason for our existence. A mother who stays at home to raise the childern should not be looked down upon because she does not participate in the economy. In reality, she is contributing in the greatest way possible; by providing well adjusted, educated future adults to a world that grows more neurotic by the day.

Maybe, if we placed more emphasis on the family and less on work, people would be less stressed out than they are today and we would learn to treat each other with more love and compassion, instead of just as mere commodities to be bought and sold.

reply to post by FortAnthem

We see our families as just a minor aspect of our meager existence when they are, in fact, what we should see as the whole reason for our existence. A mother who stays at home to raise the childern should not be looked down upon because she does not participate in the economy. In reality, she is contributing in the greatest way possible; by providing well adjusted, educated future adults to a world that grows more neurotic by the day.

This is a complete 180 for your OP.
I know this is supposed to be creative writing, but seriously- you can't write something that hectic, and then go on to say the completely opposite thing, like you did above.

A mother who stays at home to raise the childern should not be looked down upon because she does not participate in the economy.

REALLY?? And what is your OP about?

I don't know what your deal is. If you are pissed off with your wife, or suspicious of her- then take it up with her. We aren't all the same. And neither are men. You completely avoided the content of my reply to your other post above. Not all men rape or murder either. So, don't put us all in the same basket, please.

But, whatever.

reply to post by FortAnthem

We need truly feminine women back in society to help guide us away from the cultural morass the world is headed toward at breakneck speed. Without the civilizing qualities that women once brought to the world at large, I fear we are all doomed.

you are right, as far as I can see anyway, that both male and female are needed for survival. what we are up to at the moment is actually endangering the species. we endangering our species to become some wandering mutant creature, a blob, lost in ever reproducing cycles, stagnating if not deteriorating, because life itself has made sure that the species will survive by the male sexual urge and female intuition misguided to manipulate exactly that fact. both are weak. both cheat each other and themselves.

but life does not want the species to survive in that condition and therefore also included the inherent need to grow towards harmony otherwise it hurts like hell to exist. male and female have both male and female features in themselves. male has a latent female and female has a latent male. until a person is not in balance within themselves, there is no hope to achieve what life has in stock for the species.

a true feminine woman would have a fully activated male within her being. this can only be recognized by an equally activated male for a full benefit. not only this, we also need each other to activate our latent sides.

this is what we really need each other for, it is called love. we do not need each other to survive, life itself makes sure we will survive. only the 'how' is in question.

Originally posted by bestintentions

male and female have both male and female features in themselves. male has a latent female and female has a latent male. until a person is not in balance within themselves, there is no hope to achieve what life has in stock for the species.

a true feminine woman would have a fully activated male within her being. this can only be recognized by an equally activated male for a full benefit. not only this, we also need each other to activate our latent sides.

this is what we really need each other for, it is called love. we do not need each other to survive, life itself makes sure we will survive. only the 'how' is in question.

I don't believe it is necessary for the male to fully activate their latent female or vice verse in order to find balance. The two sexes are meant to find that balance in their interactions with each other.

A man should embrace his masculinity and a woman should embrace her feminism. This does not mean that they reject their latent male of female sides but, instead means that they should embrace their latent side by learning to live with and come to love the differences between themselves and the opposite sex. When the two sexes learn to coexist while embracing and even celebrating their differences society is more likely to achieve a state of harmony.

Within a marriage, this means that the married couple comes to, not just tolerate the differences and strengths and weaknesses of the opposite sex but, they learn how to make the most of those differences, complimenting each other by using the other's strengths to make up for their own weaknesses. It is a hard process and may take many years to achieve (if a couple ever achieves it at all) and there will be fighting and bitterness along the way.

A state of balance within a relationship is a labor of love that can take years to achieve and making the same achievement in society can take generations. I believe that mankind, being a naturally petty and jealous creature, will always find some friction in the relations between the sexes while harmony will only be found by individual couples who learn to live and love each other for their differences.

reply to post by Tripple_Helix


I think you're too caught up in the actual story and the way it was presented instead of the issues I was trying to bring out for discussion through that story. Sure, the angry part of the story was inspired by my relationship with my wife but, the underlying issues; whether the feminist movement hasn't really served the ends of men is something I thought worthy of discussion.

It seems that every advance in the feminist movement has actually been for the benefit of the baser desires of men. Men's desire to not have to shoulder the whole burden of supporting their families and their desire for more sex which has been advanced by the "free love" and pro-contraception aspects of the feminist movement. Even giving women the right to vote seems to have diminished their role in society, rather than improved it.

The second half of my story was designed to make women wonder if they hadn't been taken in by a conspiracy to tear them down from their position in society and drag them down into a life where they have no moral authority and the right to vote only allows them to be one voice among thousands.

In the past century, women were reduced from being paragons of virtue in society to mere sexual objects to satisfy the lusts of men. Men today have a hard time even thinking of women as something other than a potential sexual conquest. Gone are the days when women were valued for their intellect, their wit and their virtue. Today, men are more interested in "checking out" hot girls than they are in having a serious emotional relationship with a woman.



You see, this story isn't just about women oppressing the men, it is also about how the men turned the tables and turned women into nothing more than sex objects in their world. The men are just as guilty of perpetrating an evil conspiracy in this story as were the women.

The story is about the battle of the sexes and how we both use underhanded tactics against one another.

reply to post by FortAnthem

I don't believe it is necessary for the male to fully activate their latent female or vice verse in order to find balance. The two sexes are meant to find that balance in their interactions with each other.

that's exactly what i said:

........we also need each other to activate our latent sides.

i spoke about recognition. and you have interpreted the whole scenario into very beautiful words. thanks.

i hope for you your woman is riding the same wave as you !

I love women but this always makes me laugh.

Originally posted by FortAnthem

We need truly feminine women back in society to help guide us away from the cultural morass the world is headed toward at breakneck speed. Without the civilizing qualities that women once brought to the world at large, I fear we are all doomed.

What, like this?

Bwahahahah.

I just don't see how this is a revelation to any heterosexual man.

I openly admit that I am a slave to women. I have served women since I first understood the attraction I have to them. My only motivation to be productive in your society has always been to gain the attention and affection of a woman. The only reason I took school seriously is because I recognized above average academic achievement meant something to my particular flavor of woman. I personally don't care about any of the material possessions that I've accumulated. I have them just for the women. My favorite pass time activity is women, and I will pass on any activity that does not have women. Everything I've done in this life has been to please the women. I'm not ashamed to ask if you can please point me in the direction of the women. I'll serve them all, if others actually find it reprehensible.

Originally posted by bestintentions

i spoke about recognition. and you have interpreted the whole scenario into very beautiful words. thanks.

I'm glad that made sense to you. I was worried that I had regressed into rambling in that responce. That is the way I think the world SHOULD be but, I think we've got a long way to go to get there.

i hope for you your woman is riding the same wave as you !

We're gotten to the hallway sex point of our relationship (where you pass each other in the hallway and say "F-you" to each other) .

Still, we are approaching the lucky 13th year of our marriage and we have gotten to the point where we don't hold back anymore about the things we do to irriatate the hell out of each other. They say open communication makes for a happy marriage so I guess you could say that all of our bickering is a sign of how happy we are to be stuck with each other.

reply to post by FortAnthem


well, I appreciate your humour and creativity, but I for one can not be stuck. for me, this would end up in a hallway massacre, to be honest.
I appreciate positive behaviour, but I for one would introduce some radical action towards more distinct love and care in that hallway.

lucky 13th year to you, !

I just had to add this-

Yesterday, my boyfriend and I were laying by the pool, drinking some beer shandies, which of course makes one quite peckish... I jokingly said - "Go make me a 'sammich', b!@tch..." he waited about 30 secs, and actually got up and made me two salami, feta and onion garlic rolls!!!!



Thought I'd share..