reply to post by getreadyalready
I would recommend you check out the Federalist Party from the early days of the Republic. Overall they believed the same thing you just stated that
you believe. They were constitutionalists and conservatives, which at the time usually meant they were in the middle for their time. These were the
same types of people as conservative icon Edmund Burke, in the United Kingdom. Overall Conservative but held many Liberal points of view, thus not
complete conservatives like the Tories and the Loyalists.
“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as
their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and
presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves.
Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must
be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
–
Edmund Burke
“We have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge
and licentiousness would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and
religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” –
John Adams
Those are two types of men whom I would assume you agree with overall. The Federalist Party, as I mentioned earlier, was the home for American
Conservatives.
“As Samuel Eliot Morison explained, They believed that liberty is inseparable from union, that men are essentially unequal, that vox populi [voice
of the people] is seldom if ever vox Dei [the voice of God], and that sinister outside influences are busy undermining American integrity. Historian
Patrick Allitt concludes that Federalists promoted many positions that would form the baseline for later American conservatism, including the rule of
law under the Constitution, republican government, peaceful change through elections, judicial supremacy, stable national finances, credible and
active diplomacy, and protection of wealth.” –
Federalist Party
Now there is a much more hard-line part of Conservatism, what I showed to you earlier is the more liberalized version of it. I think it can be broken
into two parts; Liberalized Conservatism like Burke, Adams, Hamilton, etc… and the Hardline Conservatism like de Maistre and Bonald. I in no way
shape or form expect you to like de Maistre but he does provide an interesting take, like him or not.
"Thus, from the maggot up to man, the universal law of the violent destruction of living things is unceasingly fulfilled. The entire earth,
perpetually steeped in blood, is nothing but an immense altar on which every living thing must be immolated without end, without restraint, without
respite, until the consummation of the world...." –
Joseph de Maistre
You can read more about the true Conservatives
here.
edit on 12/1/2011 by Misoir because: (no reason given)