Prime Minister's pal calls for Strikers (protesters) to be shot!

reply to post by Hootsmanwheresmaheid


"This is my last post, this thread is full of fool's."

Shame you didn't stick to your words. Good comeback though, really shows off your rhetoric skills.

Originally posted by Hootsmanwheresmaheid
The last few post's just help my case, thicko's in town..........lol

To be honest i can't really see the point of further discussion with you - clearly you are not capable of rational debate or any intelligence in your responses. You cannot even accept that you have only posted part of the clip, not the full thing so some context could be given. Well done with such balance.

reply to post by Swizzy


Couldn't resist but can't stay on too long, finishing work soon! Being the boss i can spend some time on this sh*t site!

reply to post by Flavian


Fair & balanced, just like FOX News xD

reply to post by Hootsmanwheresmaheid


Again with the name calling?

You are really building a case for yourself here: Well thought out unbiased arguments, eloquent responses, and a manner of civility that is second to none, well done you!

You have done nothing but spout vitriolic bile about something that doesn't even warrant a response, perhaps if you'd put this much effort into your day off yesterday something might have come of it. Get over yourself for goodness sake!

reply to post by Truth_Hz


Lol, maybe if you folk's had some intelligence it would be worth arguing but to be honest.......Yah just don't listen. The fact's are in the video, right in front of your eye's n ears. Blind, that's what i call you people. Anyway, i gotta get home, look forward to continuing this discu later. Clarkson has spued one too many remarks without thought, this time it's the end! Bye.....

Originally posted by Hootsmanwheresmaheid
reply to post by Swizzy

 

Couldn't resist but can't stay on too long, finishing work soon! Being the boss i can spend some time on this sh*t site!

If you're going to bash ATS, at least do it in a manner in which gives sustenance to such a stance...

Either way one disects this, the guy in the video claiming that people should be shot is utter nonsense. I've never heard of him, but if that is comedy... why doesn't he smile or give hints that it's a joke? Or is everything this guy says is a joke? Which then implies, what, that this man is a joke? He wants to talk about dragging people into the street and shooting them, wtf?
Is this guy really that big over there? He is a clown, not even a good clown. The type of clown you wish stayed in the VW Bettle. VW, yes that is a back-door direct reference towards the tactics in which he proposes.

Originally posted by Hootsmanwheresmaheid
reply to post by Swizzy

 

Couldn't resist but can't stay on too long, finishing work soon! Being the boss i can spend some time on this sh*t site!

Oh boohoo your upset that little old Jeremy said some not very nice things & this is the state you get yourself into.
What he said was in jest but I don't disagree with the sentiment. Public sector workers can be some of the laziest, unhelpful & downright rude people you will ever meet. I used to work for my local council & most folk were either taking coffee breaks/ fag breaks or just chatting to each other rather than do any work.
I'm a contractor & the only way I can get a pension is if I start up my own pension fund but you don't see me and my fellow workers moaning or striking about it. To strike in this current economic climate is wrong & the protesters; well in the words of Jeremy Clarkson "Should be shot".

reply to post by mclarenmp4

To strike in this current economic climate is wrong & the protesters

Regardless of one's views on the industrial action taken on Wednesday, why do you believe the above statement to be true?

People have a right to withdraw their labour.
Would you have us go back 60 or 70 years where workers had no rights at all and worked for a pittance?
Because that's the way this country is heading.
Workers rights are gradually being eroded and in real terms wages are getting lower and lower.
The few skilled jobs available are paying far less than they did even two years ago and almost everything else pays the pityful minimum wage.

And all whilst top executives, politicians, bankers etc wages continuously spiral upwards.

I can't repeat this often enough; Cameron is hell bent on taking this country back to Victorianesque times along with all it's inequalities and injustices.

And I ain't no bleeding heart, pinko Liberal.

If Jeremy were an ATS member, would he be banned in short order? I think so!

If you find any of those characters around here, take them out back and "ban" them. I know where one is.

Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by mclarenmp4

 

To strike in this current economic climate is wrong & the protesters

Regardless of one's views on the industrial action taken on Wednesday, why do you believe the above statement to be true?

Ok here's why. Normal private sector workers are in exactly the same boat as the public sector workers with pay freezes, pensions being reviewed & other financial restrictions. The difference between public & private is that if the private sector workers don't agree with the restrictions they either find a new job or the company that employs them goes bust.
So when these people who are also struggling to live under the current financial climate have to take days off work, it hurts the private sector badly. As I said I am a contractor, if I had to take a day off then I would lose a days wage. There were plenty of people who had to do that today & as a result will have less money on their next paycheck. At this time of year it is a reckless thing to do as people are struggling to pay high energy bills & having to plan for xmas.

Originally posted by Freeborn
People have a right to withdraw their labour.
Would you have us go back 60 or 70 years where workers had no rights at all and worked for a pittance?
Because that's the way this country is heading.
Workers rights are gradually being eroded and in real terms wages are getting lower and lower.
The few skilled jobs available are paying far less than they did even two years ago and almost everything else pays the pityful minimum wage.

And all whilst top executives, politicians, bankers etc wages continuously spiral upwards.

I can't repeat this often enough; Cameron is hell bent on taking this country back to Victorianesque times along with all it's inequalities and injustices.

And I ain't no bleeding heart, pinko Liberal.

Yes people have a right to withdraw their labour I'm not disagreeing with you on that but the problem I have is the timing of it all. Everyone is feeling the pinch & when the economy is in such a perilous position it's reckless.
And the thing is the deal that is on the table for the public sector workers is better than most of the private sector is getting. It really angers me to be honest.

Clarkson is a jackass. How anyone can take this egotistical prat seriously is beyond me. And what will the BBC do about it? Ummmmmm let me think... Jacks**t!! As long as he rolls in the money who cares what he says. Well peeps like myself do.

I can think of many numerous ways how to rid the world of this idiot using his many "toys" he has on that stupid show Top Gear. Who in the blue blazes cares about cars that no-one in this day and age could afford? And why in the name of all that is good wants to see a mid-life crisis strickened prat race around a track showing off? If you really want to watch idiots wrecking cars go an witness it for yourself in West Belfast here in Ireland when the joyriders take out over the weekend. Not only that, why should his column in the rag have any kind of merit at all?

His appearance on the One Show says it all. The same show that scrapes the bottom of the waste basket just to fill a few minutes of verbal diarrhea. Clarksons opinions should be taken in the context of a 3 year old dialect. Utterly pointless.

reply to post by mclarenmp4


Whether it is reckless or not is irrelevant, what is important is that individuals have the right to make the choice themselves free from any undue pressure from employers or union bosses.

Clarkson showed himself up for what he really is. A tory toff whos mates with David Cameron. Total bellend.

what i found just as nauseating as the "shoot them" comment was his reaction when he was asked if he knew anyone who worked in the public sector. He had a reaction as if someone had just served him a turd on a plate.

Hopefully he's finished after this.

reply to post by mclarenmp4


i've wroked for 18 years in the private sector and never worked in the public sector.

Why should it be a race to the bottom in terms of pay & pensions?. Private sector is full of greedy execs who take massive bonuses for themselves while the ones who are doing the grafting get paid a pittance in comparison.

Private sector workers need to get more militant and fight the greedy execs more.

reply to post by yeti101


It isn't about a race to the bottom in terms of working conditions, pay etc. It is about a national structural deficit - a separate issue to banker generated problems. This is not something that we can blame on bankers or anyone else apart from ourselves and previous generations and governments. We have allowed ourselves to get into a position were we spend more money than we take in and the only way to stop it is to either spend less or tax more to pay for it.

And, again with this thread, only part of the interview has been shown. What was initially said has been totally glossed over as it doesn't fit in with the bashing theme.

reply to post by Flavian


he only said the strikes were great becuase it made his life more convenient. He should have left it at that but being a complete tory bellend he just couldnt help saying what he really thinks.

Did you know clarkson joined a strike when working for a local newspaper about 30 years ago due to poor pay. He's got a short memory. Cant stand the twat .

BBC presenters have been sacked for less.

i like a bit of stewart lee too www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0i0RXMvzMs

reply to post by yeti101


I really can't be bothered to argue about Jeremy Clarkson. Personally, i like him but i also understand that lots don't. Fair enough. I never take any of what he says seriously.

I got into this thread in the first place because i cannot believe the amount of fuss those comments have caused and i honestly think the reaction yesterday was totally out of proportion. That is my opinion - i am entitled to it, as is Jeremy Clarkson, as is everybody else.

reply to post by Hootsmanwheresmaheid


He's been taking this trash, on the show for over fifthteen seasons pick any season and listen,

First off, did any of you actually view the full show? I'm guessing not as you would have realised that Clarkson was actually giving two opposing viewpoints to highlight the BBCs policy of a balanced view.

Granted he was more of the opinion of the "be shot", but that's just Clarkson with his sense of humour, and in a way it's him exercising his freedom of speech.

Many people use the term "take and shoot" as an expression that they strongly oppose the actions of a person/people, it doesn't mean they literally think a person/people should be shot.

And for those of you calling him an upper class whatever, he came from a Northern working class family, he started out as a traveling salesman for crying out loud!

He then went into journalism, and his un-pc sense of humour made him popular and got him noticed.

Give the guy a break, get a sense of humour.