Number of Traveling Men in group?

How many travelers or Fraternal men and women do we amongest us and are you American or not?

I have posted this before, but my real name is Theron Dunn, I am the Junior Warden of Evergreen Lodge #259, F&AM, in Riverside, Ca, USA.

Sorry Theron Dunn I am new to group and did not know you had posted this type of question before, pardon me??


-S&C

Heck, brother, no offense... I was just noting that it was a repeat... no sweat.

TD thats my old stomping grounds. I grew up in Barstow.

Barstow is a cool (well, not in temperature anyway) little city. I really like the Mickey D's with the train cars outside...

We stop there for gas and a burger on the way to Vegas and back, and my brother in law and his wife live in Bakersfield, and the freeway they take to Vegas intersects the 15 there in Barstow, so the Mickey D's makes a convenient meeting place.

I am brand new to the group, and a proud Traveling Man.
I am Bro. Tim Dunlap, Past Master, Rose of Sharon Lodge No. 111, F&AM PHA, MWPHGL of TN.

A pleasure to meet and greet my brothers in light.

Also, a 32� member of King Fredrick Consistory No. 38, Southern Jurisdiction, PHA.

1st Ceremonial Master, Moolah Temple No. 54, A.E.A.O.N.M.S., Inc.

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Bro. AFAMfounder,

I, too, am a Mason. Past Master, York Rite and Scottish Rite, Allied Masonic Degrees, Knight Masons and some other things.

I'm also a member of the Independent Order of Odd Fellows,
Knights of Pythias
United Ancient Order of Druids
and a couple of other fraternal groups.

Fraternally,

John Karnes (Senrak)
Cape Girardeau, MO

What do you gentlemen think of co-masonry, not male-female together but as seperate enity? Yea or nay??


-S&C

Yep,

In London, England.

HTMB

Travelling man here, 32nd Degree S.R. Northern Jurisdiction

High Priest of Crystal Chapter R.A.M. #157 in Bowling Green, Ohio
Senior Warden of Pemberville Lodge F & A.M. #516
Generalissimo of St. Omer's Commandery K.T. #59
Captain of the Guard, Bowling Green Council. R&S.M. #124

Just initiated into AMD last night.

hello all you frat kids and masons.

i have always wondered why do you join? and why so secretive? do you feel 'above' because you're part of a club. i understand the service and community building aspect, but surely a fraternity is not necessary. no offence, but personally i think if there is no big conspiracy and nothing to hide - the whole idea of joining an all mens club is pretty silly.

heck, if you dont have any friends somebody should start "MANscouts"

-lost

I believe that "Co-Masonry" is a blatent disregard for the Landmarks of Freemasonry. Just my two cents.

PM Tim Dunlap, 32�
Rose of Sharon Lodge No. 111
MWPHGL of TN
F&AM PHA

Ok, Ill take my place as the 12+1



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Mighty and dreadfull, for, thou art not so,
For, those, whom thou think'st, thou dost overthrow,
Die not, poore death, nor yet canst thou kill me.
From rest and sleepe, which but thy pictures bee,
Much pleasure, then from thee, much more must flow,
And soonest our best men with thee doe goe,
Rest of their bones, and soules deliverie.
Thou art slave to Fate, Chance, kings, and desperate men,
And dost with poyson, warre, and sicknesse dwell,
And poppie, or charmes can make us sleepe as well,
And better then thy stroake; why swell'st thou then;
One short sleepe past, wee wake eternally,
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Originally posted by lost
hello all you frat kids and masons.

i have always wondered why do you join? and why so secretive? do you feel 'above' because you're part of a club. i understand the service and community building aspect, but surely a fraternity is not necessary. no offence, but personally i think if there is no big conspiracy and nothing to hide - the whole idea of joining an all mens club is pretty silly.

heck, if you dont have any friends somebody should start "MANscouts"

-lost

Well, lost, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing with us.

As an aside, Masonry donates about $762 MILLION per year in cash to various charities, including the 22 Shrine Hospitals we run, and not including all the free labor and services we provide...

Working together, two men can have the effect of six individual efforts. Working together, we become better men through study, work, charity and fellowship. If you don't want fellowship, that's fine. But to criticize because we do shows a lack of human decency.

I recieved my first degree two weeks ago this Thursday. Been on these boards for awhile now, been in the background for the past few weeks though.

Jeff Behrens
Clovis Lodge F & A.M. #417

ok theron. i dont want to offend, but like you said i am entitled to my opinion, and my opinion might end up offending. advance apologies.

would you theron be willing to share (if its no secret of course).. where does that 762 million come from? is a secretive fraternity necessary to make that money? also, could you give specifics on how YOU have become a better person through study, work, charity and fellowship via masonry? could you have achieved that 'betterment of person' without masonry?

lastly, i may be incorrect but you have to be invited to join no? its not like one can walk up to the lodge and sign up?

i am all for charity and fellowship, but i believe those are just fronts to the public for masonry and any other fraternity for that matter. deep down i believe the people who join fraternaties do it not for 'betterment of person' or 'charities' but mostly for 'fellowship' because they themselves are feeble and without friends. the same reason kids join gangs. they need something to lean on... but what do i know........

-lost

Lost,

Kind of ironic, but no, people are not "asked" to join the masons, and yes, one could walk up to the lodge and "ask" to join. (You would fill out a petition, be investigated, voted on, etc...)

Freemasonry is a unique fraternity in that all those who knock on its door do so of their own free will, and are not "recruited."

There are some "invitation only" groups within freemasonry.

I'm not going to say that being a mason makes someone a better person than someone else. But how can you quantify "better" or "worse" when it comes to people? The only man I need to be better than is myself. Masonry brings people into contact with others who are looking to improve themself.

Freemasonry's allegories and degrees are parables for learning, as well as bonding experiences for it's members.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, don't attack other's rights to be entitled to theirs.

exactly,

investigated, voted; (i.e. INVITED)

and when did i attack other's rights to be entitled to their opinions? NEVER.

if freemasonry is your path to bettering yourself, keep on....

not me though

-lost (oh how ironic! laughs and giggles...)

No, not exactly,

investigated, voted, (ie ADMITTED).

Invited means one is asked to attend or join. We are not asked to join, we petition to join, the lodge does not make contact, each individual has to make contact with a lodge.

And yes, you can just walk up to a lodge a ask to join. Or email, call, mail, and by use of carrier pigeon for all we care. Actually, thats exactly, and the only way you will be able to join. You have to ask, you won't be asked.

The 700+ Million comes from donations and charity work.

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