UK 'hires' Taliban for £100 on no-kill mission

UK 'hires' Taliban for £100 on no-kill mission

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Details have emerged of a NATO “reintegration program” which paid £100 a month as an incentive to dissuade Taliban fighters – including those known to have committed atrocities - from attacking ISAF forces in Afghanistan.
­Taliban members in receipt of the cash payments were also asked to participate in a survey about their reasons for joining the insurgency.

The British contingent that initiated the “walk off the battlefield” program offered an amnesty to participating militants, even if they were known to have participated in attacks on British troops in Afghanistan.
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Well bribes have always worked great. First we protect their Heroin interests by providing security, now were just going to pay them to stay at home.

Clever.

And as a bonus, we even get them to fill out a "survey" so we can data mine, perhaps decide we can bribe them for less in the future...

It is believed that many insurgents have ended up with the Taliban because of the inability of the Afghan authorities to deal their problems, particularly disputes around the ownership of farmland. It is possible that as many as 25 per cent of insurgents will return home once they have guarantees that their grievances are properly addressed and their livelihoods safeguarded.

No, IMO the majority of people joining the Taliban is to get the occupying force out of your land. That's normally why people join an insurgency, they feel insulted and betrayed.

It's patriotic to them, which is why NATO will NEVER will this conflict.

Thoughts?

~Keeper

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Boy this make's me mad, how about giving our Teachers and nurse's 100 quid a month to help them get on the property ladder etc?
Heck how about I shoot a tank and then ask for a 100 quid a month so i don't do it again. grrrrrrr

reply to post by boymonkey74


That's the biggest problem isn't it?

Effectively, you can go out, kill a bunch of soldiers, then walk into an office somewhere, get your 100 bucks and go home..

They might as well hire them as Blackwater mercenaries.

history again repeats... the americans tried that in vietnam..
didnt work out to well back then..
dont see it working out any better for the u.k..

and much like charlie did the taliban probably taking the money and laughing at the foolish westerners..

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by boymonkey74

 

That's the biggest problem isn't it?

Effectively, you can go out, kill a bunch of soldiers, then walk into an office somewhere, get your 100 bucks and go home..

They might as well hire them as Blackwater mercenaries.

On the last part... I wonder how frequently has that actually happened down that ages? the Gurkha spring to mind.. we reach a stalemate in a war against them so we employ them.. now they hold an affectionate place in the hearts of most Britons.

The way the world turns is most strange.

Well, why fight a war when you can buy and corrupt the enemy? Oh yes indeed, how very British for a solution. Not that Americans are known to be a whole lot better about logic and careful approach to another culture. I wonder what it looks like from the Afghani side to see the Brits just try to buy off their enemy with 100 pounds a month? Oh brother... and they really wonder why these people hate the West and our absolute obsession with material possession and money. Yikes.

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It's almost painfull to watch. I have a few friends in the Middle East that I've been talking to this morning (from Egypt, keeping me updatred) and they really just tear up in laughter or get very angry when I tell them about this.

Either way, they know it's not going to do a damn thing other than put money in people's pockets who are out to kill soldiers.

And considering how well I assume the "record" keeping is of these transactions. I can only assume that one person could get paid multiple times and still get away with killing soldiers.

~Keeper

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there's early records that they paid the norse not to attack what today is known as the uk.. some things never change.. raiding or getting paid not to raid was lucrative for the vikings..
even rome paid off some of the barbarian tribes at times rather than fight them..

reply to post by Expat888


Thanks for the reminder there seems to be a lot of this type of bribery dotted throughout history.. and I guess things never really ever change.. *shakes head at humanity*

GIVE TERRORISTS MONEY???????????

WHY???????????????

WOULD YOU GIVE AN ARSONIST MATCHES?

i almost feel sick paying taxes now.
its bad enough that we spend money on our own machines of war, now we're funding theirs!
they'll take the money and do what they want anyway.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I'm in full agreement with you. The Americans and the Coalition Forces are the laughing stock of the Afghanis. Everytime I read a report of some "Taliban" or "Al Qaeda" insurgent or leader is killed by our forces, I know it's 98% sure its just another villager fighting with another villager and runs to the Americans claiming they are connected to the Taliban or Al Qaeda....when in fact it's so far from the truth. Makes me ill how bloody stupid and ignorant our Forces get played for and get sucked in to thr whims of villagers.

There was a documentary of the Australian forces in Afghanistan and they allege they are getting better at knowing the difference......NO THEY ARE NOT!

Most people don't understand the reasons why these people fight. Many think that it is because of their religious ideals etc. BUT NO, it's not. They are fighting because they have nothing to lose, they live in poverty, in a country that was invaded before by the Russians... a country that hasn't made any progress for decades...

Don't tell me you guys wouldn't fight the Chinese if they were to invde your country and you not being able to make it through life because you can't find a job and have no opportunity to educate your children.

I'm not justifyng the actions of Taliban (AND OTHER ARMED GROUPS, NOT ALL BELONG TO THE TALIBAN FFS) because they do as much wrong as the Invaders do. But you should understand the reasons for their hate etc.

The most effective way to stop terrorism would be to construct a nice structure, offer help or jobs for the unemployed, health care, democracy, security and last but not least offer a competitive education for EVERYONE so they can find a job over there and turn Afghanistan into an developing/industrial country..

Right now, Afghanistan is a corrupt country, where prostitution, slavery and pedophilia is UNFORTUNATELY widelyspread. Shocking is, that even the Afghan police also take part in these "dance shows of the Afghan kids" and "buy" them for a specific period of time and have sex with them. The US/German troops there don't do # about that. The only troops actually doing something seem to be the Turks (and I don't say that because I'm one myself.)

Nice to know I am getting into debt studying for my degree here in England whilst Taliban are getting funded not to cause trouble.

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I agree and feel sorry for you, I gave up my degree because I couldn't afford it (Full time job and studying) and I didnt want to get into dept.
I really don't know what we can do about this, we can march a million strong in the UK and still they will not listen to the people.
I think it will come to a point of just rioting for 10 days when they goverment do things the people don't want.
Not saying rioting is right but at what point do we say "we have tried everything else so the only way of getting heard is to stop the machine running"

Next thing you know they'll be offering to give our tax money away at £50k per person for the illegals to leave the UK....

Actually it is a well established part of Afghan culture to switch sides in a conflict at the drop of a hat - according to who is paying the most.

Sounds like a less than discreet way of funding the enemy to continue the forever war.

i would love to see how that works. is it a pre-determined location with cardboard boxes full of lolly carefully handed over by newbie sappers or is there a special forces unit that specialises in this field? perhaps they could be called Currency Undercover Nocturnal Transfer Squad.
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